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The iWotto Power Bank with BP on HT4936S interrupts power supply cyclically

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  • #1 16374170
    rb401
    Level 39  
    All in all, I don't even know if it's a fault or "these types have it."

    It looks like this:
    The iWotto Power Bank with BP on HT4936S interrupts power supply cyclically

    The point is that this power bank, with loads less than 200mA, every 9s turns off the output voltage for half a second and turns it on again.
    With a load of e.g. 500mA, it works perfectly well, i.e. it supplies current without interruptions.
    What's more strange, somewhere within 200mA the system flashes but if the cube warms up slightly after some time it starts to work continuously.

    Apparently, this does not impair this device as a charger, but I also care about using it as an adapter for Arduino or Nucleo plates, where these breaks completely exclude it from this application.

    And I just have these questions.

    Is it supposed to be this way in this particular solution (although all my other power banks, but on other bones, they easily switch on permanently at currents of several dozen mA)? Maybe someone has already fought it?

    Does any of my colleagues have any bearing on any part of documentation, application etc. of the HT4936S system? Or maybe he knows some exact counterpart, better documented.

    I haven't found anything valuable about the HT4936S chip, even from the manufacturer who doesn't admit it. I still have a weak hope that somehow this current threshold can be changed (e.g. it is unfilled R3, some legs by weight etc.) but without documentation it is impossible.
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    #2 16663881
    adambicho
    Level 11  
    szfeihangda.com/index.php?case=archive&act=show&aid=82

    Paste into browser and give search

    Here you have a pdf ... unfortunately in Chinese :D above the table with the description to the system you have ´´HT4936S-C0 ?? ? _V1.0.pdf´´ you click and carry you.
    I wanted to lower the battery discharge voltage ... it stops discharging at 3.1V ... and 18650 can be discharged to 2.5V and I lose a lot of capacity

    I hope I helped :)
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  • #3 16665109
    rb401
    Level 39  
    adambicho wrote:
    I hope I helped


    Thanks a lot for your find! It doesn't matter that Chinese, because Google gives advice with this document.
    Finally, I found out that "these types do." Because, unfortunately, most parameters have no influence and your and my troubles are rather a matter of nightmarish scatter of production parameters of these integrated circuits.
    It is true that the Chinese belay because he gives most of the parameter values only as typical and there is nothing to worry about.
    Eg your problem that turns off too high remains only your problem because the Chinese declares work up to 2.8V but only as a typical value. You just came across a "not very typical" copy.
    For this I came across a little typical in terms of minimum electricity.
    Unfortunately, because the bone is interesting but rather only on paper.
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    #4 16665579
    adambicho
    Level 11  
    The system is very nice, I can do it with 1A both ways (but the housing must be open, otherwise it falls to about 700mA), only this voltage is at least 3.2V for the battery. I have it too, but I do not know at what current, how I loaded with the meter itself, it happened, I thought it was normal that it was `` stupid '' because of the low load current and the auto OFF works. With this battery voltage, there are two values 2.8 and 3.2V, it may depend on this transverse number, in pdf it is 2500, I have 3300, maybe it is the minimum operating voltage or something ... who the Chinese guess hahaha
    I was looking because I was hoping that I could somehow lower this Ubat min. but unfortunately none of this ...
    aaa ... if you give pin 1 to ground, the battery charges up to 4.3V .... normally to 4.15V .... 4.15 too little ... 4.3 too much :D
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  • #5 16667286
    rb401
    Level 39  
    adambicho wrote:
    With this battery voltage, there are two values 2.8 and 3.2V


    If you talk about the parameters VUVLO and VUVLO_R then according to "bushes" next to them, the first value relates to falling BAT (discharge) and the second to increasing. So these VUVLO (2.8V) is what you are interested in and there are no variants. As for the transverse number, only C0 is important, which is probably the variant (revision) of the bone described in this document. I have exactly the one mentioned there. And those 2500 in the table is just the minimum amount in the package (spool), so that it does not matter.

    Now I tried the lantern function, because after the mediocre brightness the 50mA from the documentation did not suit me. And, surprisingly, the bone gives this LED 48mA (at least one parameter that almost agrees) and this time the diode used in my copy turned out to be bad and glows at those 48mA as decent at 10mA.

    adambicho wrote:
    but the housing must be open, otherwise it falls to about 700mA


    From the bottom of the board, under the merged is a rectangle without soldermask. Something like a place to touch, soldering a heat sink, a plate to cool around the integrated circuit. At least, that's what it suggests to me.
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    #6 16668585
    adambicho
    Level 11  
    rb401 wrote:
    If you talk about the parameters VUVLO and VUVLO_R then according to "bushes" near them, the first value relates to falling BAT (discharge) and the second to increasing


    So when charging '' you '' would turn on at 3.2V ... and when discharging at 2.8V ... interesting :) Unfortunately for me it turns off when discharging already at 3.15V ... I prefer not to check when it turns on hahahaa

    I didn't have the flashlight option :D
    Today I replaced it with other circuits and I still have 1A I / O, discharge to 2.5V (you turn off) and everything in the same housing ... it cost a bit of fun, but I packed it. The housing is for 4x 18650, I bought 4x 3Ah samsung :D I will add that on new systems the meter showed me 0.5mA at rest :D which is practically nothing. Cooling holes made ... I wonder how the new equipment will work :)

    Maybe I can still put something that will warn me about low battery ... I want it to show me about 1/4 max C, although there is no space: /
    I still need to check the actual capacity '' after the inverters '', but this is only when I get the usb tester ... the previous one burned.
    I tested another converter that I wanted to put in this powerBank. It was supposed to work from 2V on `` in '', but after disconnecting the load, only 37V jumped on the tester and went out :D of course, I turned the potentiometer a bit, and that nothing changed to 'you', so I thoughtlessly unplugged the 1A load ... and now I'm waiting for the second hahaha
  • #7 16991482
    rb401
    Level 39  
    Unfortunately, I could not change anything so that you can use this powerbank as a power supply, e.g. for Nucleo. I'm closing the topic.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the iWotto Power Bank utilizing the HT4936S chip, which exhibits a cyclic interruption of power supply when under low loads (less than 200mA), turning off the output voltage every 9 seconds for half a second. Users speculate whether this behavior is a fault or a characteristic of this specific model. It is noted that at higher loads (e.g., 500mA), the power bank operates without interruptions. The conversation highlights the variability in performance due to production tolerances of the integrated circuits, with some users experiencing different minimum operating voltages. Suggestions include consulting the HT4936S datasheet for parameters like VUVLO, which indicates the voltage thresholds for operation. Ultimately, one user concludes that the power bank cannot be reliably used as a power supply for devices like Arduino or Nucleo due to these interruptions.
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