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Dynamic DSL vs. Neostrada: Quality, Speed, and Configuration with Comtrend and Cisco Routers

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  • #1 16384146
    mkozub

    Level 11  
    Hi!
    My question is: is dynamic DSL worth it or is it a fake?
    I currently have Neo up to 10Mb / s, the Lady offered (because I have a company) at the same price dynamic DSL with ADSL2 + technology, 5 IP addresses and something else.
    What are the real speeds on such a service? - I do not expect fireworks at home - I know my infrastructure and I know that I will get the operator MAX 20Mb / s from the network, but if I can get 5 public IPs at the same price, why not :D

    1. Is Turbo / Dynamic DSL service quality better than regular Neostrada? - I am asking about the actual feelings, not the marketing ones :-)
    2. I put the operator device (Comtrend) in bridge mode, everything crashes into my router (Cisco). Does anyone know "what comes out" from the operator's bridge? What address should be on my device? Any VLANs or loopbacks? Has anyone gone through this configuration?
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    #2 16384267
    bogiebog
    Level 43  
    There are 5 static ip addresses from the bridge, you can park these addresses on one or more routers.

    I had this service on comtrends for 2 years, three such adsl lines and three comtrends, every day the router crashed.
    The comtrends were hanging on the ADSL line, they worked properly on the VDSL line.
    Maybe they have already released the corrected firmware.
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  • #3 16384274
    mkozub

    Level 11  
    Thanks for the answer!
    But they all come out in the native vlan? In the sense of plugging in the Comtrenda lan switch and I can connect 5 devices with a public ip? Is this how I should understand it?

    Do I have to do anything? NP 5 public ip coming out of Contrend, everyone in a different vlan?
  • #4 16384868
    bogiebog
    Level 43  
    Hmmm .... when I connect all IPs to one router, but I think they are all on comtrend's LAN ports, no wlanes, comtrend works like a modem-switch.
  • #5 16385110
    LucekB
    Network and Internet specialist  
    Already have an ADSL service? Show adsl stats, suppression, SNR etc.
    Comtrend like comtrend, in general not bad, they hang sometimes but not at all,
    DSL Orange now also passes the ZyXEL modem-router, I think it's better equipment.
    DSL comes in two versions. The basic one is a transparent modem without NAT and DHCP and an extended one with a wi-fi router NAT and DHCP,
    where in case of making a bridge from an extended one, call the hotline of the DSL operator and they will do it remotely.
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  • #6 16385450
    mkozub

    Level 11  
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    portal#sh interfaces atm 0
ATM0 is up, line protocol is up 
Hardware is MPC ATMSAR (with Alcatel ADSL Module), address is 5475.d0b9.2800 (bia 5475.d0b9.2800)
Description: Polaczenie ADSL do ISP
MTU 4470 bytes, sub MTU 4470, BW 1285 Kbit/sec, DLY 280 usec, 
reliability 255/255, txload 11/255, rxload 39/255
Encapsulation ATM, loopback not set
Keepalive not supported 
Encapsulation(s): AAL5
20 maximum active VCs, 1024 VCs per VP, 1 current VCCs
VC Auto Creation Disabled.
VC idle disconnect time: 300 seconds
Last input never, output 00:00:00, output hang never
Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
Input queue: 0/224/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 136598
Queueing strategy: Per VC Queueing
5 minute input rate 197000 bits/sec, 25 packets/sec
5 minute output rate 59000 bits/sec, 33 packets/sec
29588283 packets input, 1050512871 bytes, 0 no buffer
Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
28668607 packets output, 3523527080 bytes, 0 underruns
0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
0 unknown protocol drops
0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

portal#sh atm interface ATM 0
Interface ATM0:
AAL enabled: AAL5,, Maximum VCs: 20, Current VCCs: 1

VCIs per VPI: 1024, 
Max. Datagram Size: 4528
PLIM Type: ADSL - 1285Kbps Upstream, DMT, TX clocking: LINE
2764862 input, 3949520 output, 26825195 IN fast, 24824232 OUT fast
Avail bw = 1285 
Config. is ACTIVE

portal#sh atm pvc interface ATM 0
VCD / Peak Av/Min Burst
Interface Name VPI VCI Type Encaps SC Kbps Kbps Cells St
0 1 0 35 PVC MUX UBR 1285 UP

portal#sh dsl inter atm0
ATM0
Alcatel 20190 chipset information
		ATU-R (DS)			ATU-C (US)
Modem Status:	 Showtime (DMTDSL_SHOWTIME)
DSL Mode:	 ITU G.992.5 (ADSL2+) Annex A
ITU STD NUM: 	 0x03				 0x2 
Chip Vendor ID:	 'STMI'				 'IFTN'
Chip Vendor Specific: 0x0000			 0x82B6
Chip Vendor Country: 0x0F			 0xB5
Modem Vendor ID: 'CSCO'				 ' '
Modem Vendor Specific: 0x0000			 0x0000
Modem Vendor Country: 0xB5			 0x00
Serial Number Near: FCZ14239075
Serial Number Far: 
Modem VerChip ID: 	 C196 (3) capability-enabled
DFE BOM:	 DFE3.0 Annex A (1)
Capacity Used:	 81%				 100%
Noise Margin:	 15.0 dB			 6.5 dB
Output Power:	 18.5 dBm			 12.5 dBm
Attenuation:	 21.0 dB			 9.0 dB
FEC ES Errors:	 126				 0
ES Errors:	 10				 0
SES Errors:	 10				 0
LOSES Errors:	 10				 0
UES Errors:	 0				 74
Defect Status:	 None None 
Last Fail Code:	 None
Watchdog Counter: 0x78
Watchdog Resets: 0
Selftest Result: 0x00
Subfunction:	 0x00 
Interrupts:	 4172 (0 spurious)
PHY Access Err:	 0
Activations:	 2
LED Status:	 ON
LED On Time:	 100
LED Off Time:	 100
Init FW:	 init_AMR-5.0.007.bin
Operation FW:	 AMR-E-0.0.026.bin
FW Source:	 external
FW Version:	 0.0.26

		 DS Channel1	 DS Channel0	US Channel1	 US Channel0
Speed (kbps):	 0	 12447	 0	 1285
Cells:		 0	 655028655	 0	 218877514
Reed-Solomon EC: 0	 959	 0	 0
CRC Errors:	 0	 13	 0	 0
Header Errors:	 0	 15	 0	 0
Total BER:		 0E-0		 30464E-0
Leakage Average BER:	 0E-0		 30464E-0
Interleave Delay: 0	 8	 0	 23
			ATU-R (DS)	ATU-C (US)
Bitswap:	 enabled		 enabled
Bitswap success: 0	 0
Bitswap failure: 0	 0

LOM Monitoring : Disabled


DMT Bits Per Bin
000: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
010: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
020: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
030: 0 0 2 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
040: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
050: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
060: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
070: 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
080: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
090: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
0A0: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
0B0: 0 0 2 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0C0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0D0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0
0E0: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
0F0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
100: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
110: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
120: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
130: 0 0 2 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
140: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0
150: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
160: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
170: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
180: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0
190: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
1A0: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
1B0: 0 0 2 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1C0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1D0: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
1E0: 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0
1F0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0

DSL: Training log buffer capability is not enabled
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    #7 16385462
    LucekB
    Network and Internet specialist  
    You have a lot of money here, you could take the service up to 20 Mb / s and somewhere on 16-18 Mb / s you should have.
    Theoretically, you could try to order VDSL, you have nothing to lose,
    maybe it would work, a technician on the assembly to check or improve something, e.g. in the installation, and if it would synchronize at about 30 Mb / s, I would take it.
    As for a minimum of 21-22-23 MB / s, it cannot be unstable.
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  • #8 16385471
    mkozub

    Level 11  
    Thanks Lucek!
    Unfortunately, the lady on the hotline excluded VDSL at my location. But as for ADSL I will have 15Mb / s, that's not bad too :-) and these 5 IP addresses :-)
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The discussion revolves around the comparison between Dynamic DSL and Neostrada services, particularly focusing on the quality, speed, and configuration aspects when using Comtrend and Cisco routers. Users inquire about the actual performance of Dynamic DSL, especially in terms of speed and reliability compared to Neostrada, which offers up to 10Mb/s. The potential benefits of obtaining 5 public IP addresses at the same price are also highlighted. Responses indicate that while Comtrend devices may experience stability issues, they can function adequately on ADSL lines. Users discuss configurations, including bridge mode settings and VLAN considerations for managing multiple public IPs. The conversation also touches on the possibility of achieving higher speeds with VDSL, although some users report limitations based on their location.
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