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Connecting Coils in Jawa 50, Ogar 200 Generator: Potential for 12V Output?

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  • #1 16407630
    żelowy
    Level 8  
    Siemanko again!
    This time I have a question about connecting the coils in the installation of the Jawka 50, or the hound 200. I came across a (somewhat brilliant) site about a very useful conversion of the electrical installation for the battery:
    http://www.przecinak.republika.pl/aku%20ogar.htm
    By. In the manual, we replace the light coils with additional ignition coils, so each separately gives electricity 6V 15W. Will we not get voltage after connecting as in the diagram? 12V instead of the 6V mentioned on the page? Because originally the light coils giving 3V 10W connected together (but without these graetz bridges) gave 6V ...
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    #2 16408095
    thomas__1
    Level 23  
    From this diagram you can see that the pros are compact and so are the minuses. So it definitely won't be 12V. it should be around 6V - the coils are not in one phase.
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  • #3 16408441
    żelowy
    Level 8  
    so if I give:
    minus "1" to ground
    plus "1" to minus "2"
    and only from the plus "2" I get the charging (through one ordinary diode, not a bridge) will I get 12V 30W?

    ("1" and "2" are examples of coil numbers)
  • #4 16409536
    thomas__1
    Level 23  
    It won't do anything because the coils have different phases. Personally, I would try (if there are no 12V coils available) to pin / rewind the coils. If there is space on the core, wrap it with a thinner wire (12V- 2x lower current than 6V at the same power).
    You can try to connect the outputs from the greatz bridges the way you entered and take the measurement. Additionally, you can connect some large capacitors on the outputs of the bridges.
  • #5 16415105
    żelowy
    Level 8  
    but what exactly are these phases about because I don't understand? after all, if I put new coils, both ignition coils, they would be identical ...
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  • #6 16418169
    żelowy
    Level 8  
    and how?

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    and how?
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    #7 16419660
    thomas__1
    Level 23  
    The point is that the magnetic field depends on the position of the magnet wheel. The coils are not in the same place, so when the voltage on one coil reaches the maximum amplitude, the other may be 0V or some other voltage - it depends on the position of the coils.
  • #8 16419845
    żelowy
    Level 8  
    ok thanks, it's all clear now ;)
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The discussion revolves around the potential for achieving a 12V output by connecting coils in the electrical installation of Jawa 50 and Ogar 200 motorcycles. The original setup involves light coils providing 6V, and the user inquires about replacing these with ignition coils to increase voltage. Responses indicate that due to the coils being out of phase, achieving a stable 12V output is unlikely. Suggestions include rewinding coils for compatibility or using diodes and capacitors to manage output. The importance of coil positioning and magnetic field interaction is emphasized as a critical factor in voltage generation.
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