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What is this sensor and what are its parameters (MCB 419311 potentiometer)

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  • #1 16429721
    SylwekK
    Level 32  
    In search of something that I could add to the gas in my electric car, which I have been trying to make for some time, I hit the gas pedal of a forklift, where it mechanically fits perfectly into the structure. The sensor is probably broken, but I don't know that and I wanted to check it. Unfortunately, I was probably at the end of the internet and I haven't found one.
    Maybe some of you had to do with what is shown in the attached picture. I suspect the hall effect sensor, but I won't give a head. I do not know the leads either, so I would not want to damage anything by rushing.

    This is what it looks like

    What is this sensor and what are its parameters (MCB 419311 potentiometer)
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  • #2 16429784
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    MCB-ELEKTRISCH 419216 potentiometer
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  • #3 16429805
    SylwekK
    Level 32  
    Well, this is what I saw, but mine has 4 cables, and the one you write about - 3 and it looks a bit different :(
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  • #4 16429828
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    Do you know exactly what equipment it is from? maybe the part number will be more accurate. I do not know if this is the manufacturer's website, but https://mcbindustrie.com/ does not work for me, or the company is no longer there, or it is not this website.
    Have you checked the resistance between the wires?
  • #5 16429844
    SylwekK
    Level 32  
    Unfortunately, I don't know. I will still ask the people from whom I got it, if they know what this model of the stroller is.
    I cannot access this website either.
  • #6 16429866
    onepiotr
    Level 25  
    If the design suits you, then look at the Renault Premium pedal potentiometer. If something goes wrong, you will get another one right away without any hassle ;)
  • #7 16429869
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    There is "POTENTIOMETER 419336 LINDE 1163801105" on alledrogo, it looks similar

    What is this sensor and what are its parameters (MCB 419311 potentiometer)

    LINDE DRIVING PEDAL POTENTIOMETER or MAST POTENTIOMETER
    LINDE 3863604700
    What is this sensor and what are its parameters (MCB 419311 potentiometer)

    Or write to the frogs, send a photo, maybe they will send something "infomalpamcb-industrie.com"
  • #8 16431673
    SylwekK
    Level 32  
    @onepiotr, no, I will not be charged. Most likely, I will strip the reptile and transform it my own way. Specifically, I want to use this housing, because it is cool, and to it I put an analog hall effect sensor and a small magnet - I have already done tests and they turned out very promising (good stability of parameters when the magnet rotates), and above all, the path will not wipe out, because it will not be like that :)

    @ gradek83, I took the measurements and if between the black and the extreme yellow and green it behaves like an ordinary logarithmic potentiometer (the resistance in the direction from green to yellow drops faster and faster from the extreme position in the range of 4.25k to 1.73k), then with a red cable I have such miracles that it's even hard for me to describe them here (there is no logic at all) - maybe that was the reason for replacing the accelerator pedal module.
  • #9 16431694
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    SylwekK wrote:
    Most likely, I will strip the reptile and transform it my own way

    I wonder how they did it there. Only this housing looks to me as flooded or welded or ultrasonically glued or in some other way. Squeeze it in a vise or cut it open with a hair saw :D Let me know if you have succeeded :D

    And besides, from what I can see, they call themselves 200-500 PLN for such a potentiometer.
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  • #10 16431707
    SylwekK
    Level 32  
    Price ... that's it :) For a hall effect sensor and a magnet, it will cost me 2-3 zlotys + some free time.
    The most important thing is to disassemble this casing somehow, because it is probably ultrasonically glued :(
  • #11 16431746
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    gradek83 wrote:
    MCB-ELEKTRISCH 419216 potentiometer
    SylwekK wrote:
    Well, this is what I saw, but mine has 4 cables, and the one you write about - 3 and it looks a bit different
    Well, it's not this one, buddy @ gradek83, look closely at the photo - it's MCB 419311.
    Another thing, MCB was bought by Vishay, so the email you provided is out of date.
  • #12 16431766
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    The mere fact that this potentiometer is only a comparison to another model with a different marking, because it is clearly visible in the attached photo that SylwekK gave. MCB probably makes such elements for a specific recipient under special orders. But it doesn't matter anymore, what matters now?
  • #13 16431777
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    It might not even be a potentiometer.
  • #14 16431795
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    Undress it, find out what's in there, we'll find out.
  • #15 16438069
    SylwekK
    Level 32  
    Curiosity won, and at the same time there will be information for posterity :) Taking into account the strange and illogical indications (which does not surprise me anymore and you probably will also stop after seeing the photos), I decided to undress the reptile. He gave up relatively easily. It turned out that it was only slightly glued at the edges, which could easily be delaminated with a knife and remove the lid.
    However, there is a potentiometer inside. On the attached pictures you can see exactly how it is built and how the resistance path is used - it had no right to work properly anymore. The upper slider is resistance, the lower two are the connection terminated with sputtered resistors (the tabs on the right side of the tracks).
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    Finally, the housing is already in the workshop and is trying to sensibly stuff a magnet with a linear hall effect sensor into it.
  • #17 16447828
    SylwekK
    Level 32  
    And the insides have been modified :)
    After assembly and testing, it looks like this:
    What is this sensor and what are its parameters (MCB 419311 potentiometer) What is this sensor and what are its parameters (MCB 419311 potentiometer) What is this sensor and what are its parameters (MCB 419311 potentiometer)

    In terms of changes around 3 V, I can easily handle some PWM :)

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the MCB 419311 potentiometer, which a user is attempting to integrate into an electric car project. The user suspects the sensor is malfunctioning and seeks information on its specifications and wiring. Various responses suggest alternative models, such as the Renault Premium pedal potentiometer and Linde potentiometers, while others discuss the possibility of modifying the existing unit with a Hall effect sensor. The user eventually disassembles the potentiometer, revealing its internal structure and confirming it is indeed a potentiometer, which had been malfunctioning due to wear. The conversation also touches on potential methods for repairing or regenerating the worn components.
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