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Recommended Video Intercom Cable for 300m Distance: Gate & Alarm Control, Wire Cross-Section

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  • #1 16523390
    witoldi2107
    Level 9  
    Hello, I need to lay the cable for the video intercom and to open the electro-catch and extend the gate opening signal from the remote control or home button to the gate and alarm detector. the situation is that the building is 250-300 m away from the entrance gate, I have an erbette at the gate so powering the gate machine is not a problem and halfway from the gate to the house I have another erbette at the pond. The problem begins with the video intercom and the control of opening the wicket and gate from home.
    I need to know if all this can be done with one cable and if not how many veins the cable has to have and what cross-section should these wires be?
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    #2 16523398
    Daro1003
    Level 33  
    The manufacturer of a given video intercom always gives recommendations regarding the cables.
    As for Vidos, recommendations over 75m are 1mm cable. Number of wires minimum 6 but add gate control 2 wires plus some spare. Of course, you need to make the power supply for the gate station and the electro catch locally at the gate.
    My advice is about the Vidos analog system. If you have any doorphone set you have to check the cable requirements because the distance is large.
  • #3 16523427
    witoldi2107
    Level 9  
    Or maybe you don't have to buy cable and buy a video intercom with the function of opening the gate and gate up to 300 m wireless?
    Maybe someone has a proven video intercom with such functions up to 300 m, I would love to buy the same :)

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    One detail when it comes to the wireless video intercom over a distance of 150 m from the gate towards the building, the plot is forested, is this a big problem?
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  • #4 16523445
    Daro1003
    Level 33  
    I don't know if you will find a video intercom at such distances. A sensible video intercom set is the Comwei WB201B but its effective range is 50m, according to the manufacturer.
    Personally, I would go into a cable with appropriate cross-sections.
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    #5 16523786
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    witoldi2107 wrote:
    One detail when it comes to the wireless video intercom over a distance of 150 m from the gate towards the building, the plot is forested, is this a big problem?

    Until recently, none. Now I think it is:
    http://biznes.interia.pl/wiadomosci/news/koni...wycinka-drzew-na-nowych-zasadach,2508048,4199
    Daro1003 wrote:
    The manufacturer of a given video intercom always gives recommendations regarding the cables.
    As for Vidos, recommendations over 75m are 1mm cable

    Requirements will really be similar for different manufacturers, but with such tables in this case, please do not suggest. They are very indicative and many times their authors confuse 0.5 with 0.5 square. Knowing the power consumption of the external cassette, simply use the voltage drop calculator. Please do not suggest that you can talk and see. It is important that the relay responsible for opening the gate is activated.
    Proposed solution:
    video intercom whose design provides an additional power supply for the electric strike (commax - I tested at such a distance, vidos - I do not have such experience)
    hitch power supply locally from the gate power supply.
    cable in gate / wicket relation min: https: //www.speckable.pl/produkt/4242/Kabel-telekom.-zel.-XzTKMXpw-5x4x0,8mm.html? ref = g95
    Yes from experience with commax. Two "fours" with a considerable supply of power (we once launched commax on single 0.5 wires at a cable distance of 75 m. If the 0.5 conductor has a square of 0.2 and the conductor 0.8 almost 0.5, then count how many he lived really since poverty is enough), one four with audio and video supply (single veins are enough), one pair for gate control and one pair in total storage.
    In the place of mounting the camera and monitor, it is worth providing space for the installation of passive transmitters and overvoltage protections.
    best regards

    ps. it is worth providing the possibility of connecting an additional camera at the gate and an additional (this time at home) remote control receiver which sends a signal by opening the gate (we can open the gate confidently at the house)
    ps2. of course, if you have the right budget, it is worth placing an additional gel strand along the previously proposed cable - just in case.
    ps3.cable at home we run through a mini switchboard with access to 230V. There we can place any additional devices.
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    #6 16524080
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    We installed several Urmet 2Voice sets at similar distances. Last month e.g. http://www.miwiurmet.pl/katalog-produktów-domofony/item/319-zestawy-video/1673-1722-671.html
    The cable is a UTP gelatinous twisted pair cable, and according to Miwi Urmet's recommendation, we only let it go one pair (we didn't pair). It works without a problem, and several other sets have already fallen on these distances before.
    Interestingly, the manufacturer (Italian Urmet) claims that this pledge works correctly on UTP up to max. 190 m. The distributor in .pl is already after many tests for 2 x greater distances than the factory suggests and is OK.

    best regards
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  • #7 16524381
    witoldi2107
    Level 9  
    Ircys wrote:
    We installed several Urmet 2Voice sets at similar distances. Last month e.g. http://www.miwiurmet.pl/katalog-produktów-domofony/item/319-zestawy-video/1673-1722-671.html
    The cable is a UTP gelatinous twisted pair cable, and according to Miwi Urmet's recommendation, we only let it go one pair (we didn't pair). It works without a problem, and several other sets have already fallen on these distances before.
    Interestingly, the manufacturer (Italian Urmet) claims that this pledge works correctly on UTP up to max. 190 m. The distributor in .pl is already after many tests for 2 x greater distances than the factory suggests and is OK.

    best regards


    I may be tempted to such a solution but the price is a bit prohibitive; (

    Added after 8 [minutes]:

    [Quote = "Suvorov"]
    witoldi2107 wrote:
    One detail when it comes to the wireless video intercom over a distance of 150 m from the gate towards the building, the plot is forested, is this a big problem?

    Until recently, none. Now I think it is:
    http://biznes.interia.pl/wiadomosci/news/koni...wycinka-drzew-na-nowych-zasadach,2508048,4199
    Daro1003 wrote:
    The manufacturer of a given video intercom always gives recommendations regarding the cables.
    As for Vidos, recommendations over 75m are 1mm cable

    Requirements will really be similar for different manufacturers, but with such tables in this case, please do not suggest. They are very indicative and many times their authors confuse 0.5 with 0.5 square. Knowing the power consumption of the external cassette, simply use the voltage drop calculator. Please do not suggest that you can talk and see. It is important that the relay responsible for opening the gate is activated.
    Proposed solution:
    video intercom whose design provides an additional power supply for the electric strike (commax - I tested at such a distance, vidos - I do not have such experience)
    hitch power supply locally from the gate power supply.
    cable in gate / wicket relation min: https: //www.speckable.pl/produkt/4242/Kabel-telekom.-zel.-XzTKMXpw-5x4x0,8mm.html? ref = g95
    Yes from experience with commax. Two "fours" with a considerable supply of power (we once launched commax on single 0.5 wires at a cable distance of 75 m. If the 0.5 conductor has a square of 0.2 and the conductor 0.8 almost 0.5, then count how many he lived really since poverty is enough), one four with audio and video supply (single veins are enough), one pair for gate control and one pair in total storage.
    In the place of mounting the camera and monitor, it is worth providing space for the installation of passive transmitters and overvoltage protections.
    best regards

    ps. it is worth providing the possibility of connecting an additional camera at the gate and an additional (this time at home) remote control receiver which sends a signal by opening the gate (we can open the gate confidently at the house)
    ps2. of course, if you have the right budget, it is worth placing an additional gel strand along the previously proposed cable - just in case.
    ps3.cable at home we run through a mini switchboard with access to 230V. There we can place any additional devices. [/ Quot


    If I decide to lay the cable, XzTKMXpw 6x2x0,8 12 wires should cover it all and tell me if I will have two wires free, can I use the same cable to get the internet signal from the fiber or place the fiber separately at home?
  • #8 16524997
    niepotrafie
    Level 16  
    Dude, if you are talking about fiber optics, think about IP video intercom.
  • #9 16528408
    janek ie
    Level 13  
    Hello, I used to mount a video intercom at a distance of 400 meters. A 10-pair telephone cable, and it has been in operation for 6 years. The problem was that I had to use two power supplies. One at home, the other at the gate.
    best regards
  • #10 16532480
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    witoldi2107 wrote:
    I may be tempted to such a solution but the price is a bit prohibitive; (


    If you have hectares, you have to take into account the costs :) And by the way, when you solve the @Ircys solution, you save a lot on the cable. Worth considering.
    best regards
  • #11 16566453
    piotrek_falownik
    Level 16  
    niepotrafie wrote:
    Dude, if you are talking about fiber optics, think about IP video intercom.


    An IP video door phone at such a distance does not have to have an optical fiber :) .. If there is electricity there, try using this: https://www.emag.pl/powerline-fritz-zestaw-54...google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_campaign= whoop_network_devices & cmpid = 61148 & gclid = CIqtsrup7dQCFdLJsgodlQYEVw

    On the other hand, remember to connect the device on the same phase and distance up to 500mb.
    I tested on about 140mb .. But I think that up to 500 it is 300 it is calm ..

    best regards

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the installation of a video intercom system over a distance of 250-300 meters, including the control of gate and alarm systems. Recommendations suggest using a cable with a minimum cross-section of 1mm for distances over 75m, with at least 6 wires plus additional for gate control. Various brands and models are mentioned, including Vidos, Commax, and Urmet, with Urmet's 2Voice system reportedly functioning effectively over similar distances using UTP twisted pair cable. Some participants suggest considering wireless options, although concerns about range and environmental factors, such as forested areas, are raised. The use of powerline adapters and fiber optics for IP video intercoms is also discussed as potential solutions.
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