Cordless Drill Driver Comparison: Bosch GSB 180-LI vs Makita DF457DWE for DIY Tasks under PLN 600

Zbigniew 400 wrote:

Xray, I wonder how long these links of yours have been coming from.

Exactly the 18650 link can be purchased for PLN 8 new and there are also those that cost more than PLN 50. The higher shelf has an additional number of safeguards, e.g. when the drill is blocked in metal, it can cut off the momentary seeding only so that the cells do not get hurt in the butt, giving off a very high short-circuit current. The second issue of durability is the charger, which, despite fast charging, does not damage the cells, shortening their lifetime.
By the way, these "free 18650 cells" are even suitable for powetbank, not to mention screwdrivers, unless for a small battery screwdriver with a small current. Regeneration of screwdriver batteries is not cheap, as some people think, but it is profitable because, depending on the brand, it costs 50-70% of a new battery.
One more question of parameters, I personally do not trust the Nm numbers with the cell capacity nowadays, there are also different reviews on the Internet, the original 2.0Ah battery and inside the 1.3Ah cell there are also reverse situations, I write less than I really saw something like this, probably in the metabo or makita.

Read more about permissible currents.

How are you going to use it sporadically, maybe consider buying a power cordless screwdriver? I use the screwdriver so rarely that when I needed it, it was always discharged, so I switched to 230V.

HeksoN wrote:

Hello, I am looking for a drill / screwdriver (cordless) for up to PLN 600. It will be used for smaller DIY jobs, wood drilling and, of course, driving and removing screws / bolts. I care about the solid performance of the product and the possibility of using it for years. So far, I have selected 2 models, I will be grateful for your help and, of course, I am open to suggestions. Regards

1. http://www.narzedzia.pl/wiertarko-wkretarka-z-udarem-bosch-gsb-180-li,64850.html [Bosch GSB 180-LI]

2. http://www.narzedzia.pl/wiertarko-wkretarka-makita-df457dwe,58402.html [Makita DF457DWE]

I had this Makita in my hands - I would choose her if you were!

elektronik999 wrote:

How are you going to use it sporadically, maybe consider buying a power cordless screwdriver? I use the screwdriver so rarely that when I needed it, it was always discharged, so I switched to 230V.

I did the same. I have a B&D screwdriver and I rarely use it, so the battery is worn out after 2 years, even though it is periodically charged and discharged. Every two years I have to buy a set of cells for it.
So some time ago, I bought a SKIL power screwdriver in Castorama for about PLN 130. Since then, the problems with the screwdriver at home have not existed. Always ready to go. Incomparably high power in relation to cordless screwdrivers (it can twist the hand when holding too weakly) at this price. It turns out SKIL makes decent tools. So, maybe instead of replacing the battery with a new one from time to time, it will be cheaper to buy a power screwdriver at the price of the battery or half the price of a new battery

tomiok wrote:

although it is known that now every manufacturer does so that the tools do not last forever, because it is not profitable for him

It would be a strange approach Each customer who drops the equipment will not return to the brand, and will not recommend it to anyone.

I don't see the point here.

For occasional work at home, a screwdriver from Allegro for PLN 200 is enough.

Hello

If you want a screwdriver for occasional work and for years - I recommend a power screwdriver.

Batteries used rarely will die, regardless of the company.
And so you have no batteries and you have peace of mind. In addition, the screwdriver is always ready to work.

I have been using it for over 3 years and I am satisfied.
I use it sporadically for small jobs.
Link

It is Chinese branded and sold by a company from Rzeszów.

xray81 wrote:

....
18V drills test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBU7VC51YwE

I watched for 10 minutes, and ... Bosch was the first to finish screwing.

Unfortunately, I did not watch the whole thing because there is no time.

As @LightOfWinter writes, it's worth having such a network.
I also have an ordinary Chinese (I gave something about PLN 70), and when I do something on site at home, I often use it to save batteries in other screwdrivers.
It works surprisingly, although the warranty has probably expired.

tomiok wrote:

I watched for 10 minutes, and ... Bosch was the first to finish screwing.

Look again, Bosch finished third after Milwaukee and Panasonic.

xray81 wrote:

...
Look again, Bosch finished third after Milwaukee and Panasonic.

But you can see how he evidently corrects his previously untightened screws?
This is his fault - not screwdrivers, according to it is biased for me.
Without it - Bosch wins.

Hello, I am looking for a gift for my husband a cordless screwdriver (I do not want a power cord), amateur work, tighten the screws at home or something next to the car or motorcycle from time to time. I do not want to buy a poor-quality one, which is about to break down because we already have one and my husband is not satisfied with it. The money I want to spend is up to PLN 500. Please help

Let your friend look for equipment whose manufacturer offers a 3-year warranty on batteries.
Personally, I would choose between SPARKY and Metabo with a predominance of the former.

On alledrogo I saw a SPARKY SET SCREWDRIVER IMPACT WRENCH Li-ion 145Nm for PLN 600 and the last piece was left. It is a brand so niche and not very popular that if you look well you can find it even cheaper. In my opinion, it's worth it because we have 2 tools, a screwdriver and an impact wrench (very useful for a car) and 2 14V li-ion batteries.

For a small amount of money you can buy something from ryobi, you will certainly fit in PLN 500, you can consider a model with a brushless motor, it will certainly be more durable and will last longer such equipment

Only in case of failure of the basket control.

And what breaks in classic screwdrivers?
What if the electronics fail in the brushless?

Hello everyone, I would like to ask you for help choosing a cordless drill, I am thinking about two models from DeWalt
https://www.ceneo.pl/53266957;0284-0.htm#tab=click_scroll
https://www.ceneo.pl/53266950
the PLN 740 is the maximum budget
which one would you choose?
these are similar designs with brushless motor
one is with stroke the other is without
now the question is is it worth paying extra for this stroke? it will not increase the risk of failure, if it will be used hard, it's hard to say, maybe it will be useful a few times
in general, the device will be used for domestic work.
And one more, if I take a stroke, should the bits also be impact, even though the stroke will be rarely used?
and if I choose without a stroke, is it worth buying impact bits? or better ordinary
thank you for helping everyone