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VW Passat B6 3C - Parking Brake Failure After Discs and Pads Replacement, VCDS Adaptation Issues

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  • #1 16601047
    krys323
    Level 8  
    Hello. Dear colleagues, I have a problem with the parking brake in my b6. Namely, I had the front and rear discs and pads to be replaced. The front went quickly, while the back started having problems. I used VCDS to recreate the terminals. Everything is fine. Clamp off, but I was tempted to check how it closes. So VCDS'EM did a clamp closure when the clamp was not in place. From now on, I have a problem. Fault only when attempting to open, close, or test the terminals in parking brake data blocks 006, 007 and 010. I have folded the brakes somehow, but the error of lack of power on the right rear caliper crashes. After all, it is not possible that something happened to the beam within 15 minutes. That's why I think to do adaptations / coding of the parking brake controller. Could any of my colleagues help me with this? Thanks in advance, best regards
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  • #2 16601144
    Ireneo
    Level 42  
    Try a few times with the button. Some people reportedly cut off the beam during such replacement.
  • #3 16601155
    krys323
    Level 8  
    I tried. I've read that others have disconnected the battery, but that also doesn't work. I read that the driver, when noticing a different resistance, disconnects the current at this terminal. The only question is how to reset it now?
  • #4 16601233
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #5 16601279
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Just hold down the brake pedal firmly and try to activate / deactivate the parking brake a few times. Unless it doesn't respond at all, then there may be something in the bundle.
  • #6 16601328
    krys323
    Level 8  
    So colleagues, yes. The cubes and plugs look like new. I keep the brake pressed, I apply the parking brake and it drags, but only the left wheel. Additionally, when the P button is pressed, a chime sounds and the computer displays the error of lack of power supply to the right terminal. The error clears, tries to tighten the handwheel and again tightens the left wheel chime and the same error. Before replacing the pads and discs, everything was ok. I don't believe that something happened to the harness, because after opening the clamps VCDS and my stupid attempt to close the clamps, where the right one was not installed, an error appeared, and so everything was going crazy. I am wondering whether I should disassemble the central tunnel tomorrow to get to the brake controller and not unplug it for a test and plug it back in. Maybe then he can do a parking brake test on the VCDS. I only wonder if the coding will not be recommended to me then.
  • #7 16601348
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    No voodoo VCDS will help here. Something's just broken.
  • #8 16601355
    krys323
    Level 8  
    Maybe you are right, buddy, but how is it possible that 15 minutes before replacing the blocks everything was chuling? I will add that the right motor works for a short time without any charges, because this is how I retracted it after I closed it with Vcds
  • #9 16601419
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    Give a detailed description of the error. From what you write, it is rather a problem in the driver because if he did not see the clamp, it would show something else.
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  • #10 16601576
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #11 16601594
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    Unfasten the left one and see if the right one moves.
  • #12 16601614
    krys323
    Level 8  
    I'll try to unfasten. I also thought that maybe I should try to swap the motors in places and see if the error will spread to the other side.
    Added after 32 [minutes]:
    Here is the only error that shows up.
    VW Passat B6 3C - Parking Brake Failure After Discs and Pads Replacement, VCDS Adaptation Issues VW Passat B6 3C - Parking Brake Failure After Discs and Pads Replacement, VCDS Adaptation Issues
  • #13 16601733
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    Unplug the controller, put the power supply on its plug so that the right clamp is actuated, then it will be sure that the beam is operational. Check if the controller is sometimes not green.
    It looks to me as if the wrong voltage was supplied from the driver, i.e. the driver is damaged or its power supply.
  • #14 16601757
    krys323
    Level 8  
    Driver like new. There is no greenery. I do not know which pins to give the power to so that it is ok.
    I am uploading pics of the driver
    VW Passat B6 3C - Parking Brake Failure After Discs and Pads Replacement, VCDS Adaptation Issues VW Passat B6 3C - Parking Brake Failure After Discs and Pads Replacement, VCDS Adaptation Issues
  • #15 16601763
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    Cross the wires with thick pins with the meter, you will find continuity to the back.
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    #16 16601784
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Pins 12 and 27 are right engine, 14 and 29 are left, 13 and 15 are fixed pluses, 28 and 30 ground.
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  • #17 16601828
    krys323
    Level 8  
    I ordered to check the beam and did as follows. I disconnected the plug from the motor as in the photo and gave the battery voltage straight to the ankle. Then the meter in hand, I flew to the car and the voltage on the red pins is normal. So we can exclude the beam, right? VW Passat B6 3C - Parking Brake Failure After Discs and Pads Replacement, VCDS Adaptation Issues VW Passat B6 3C - Parking Brake Failure After Discs and Pads Replacement, VCDS Adaptation Issues
  • #18 16601837
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Well, even in the photo you can see the numbers, you marked 12 and 27. Unless you mean how I know what to be on, I looked at the diagram.
    Check if you have both pluses, because it may turn out to be just a fuse, there are 2 separate ones.
  • #19 16601844
    krys323
    Level 8  
    Yes about how did you know. It's all clear. Check these 2 permanent pluses, are they?

    Added after 5 [minutes]:

    Unfortunately, it would be too good. The meter for pins 13 and 28. Result 12.26. The meter for pins 15 and 30 also 12,26
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    #20 16601865
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Error that you are checking the voltage with the meter. Take a light bulb of at least 55W.
  • #21 16601908
    krys323
    Level 8  
    Checked now with a h7 55W bulb. It shines like a lighthouse. I do not know if it is worth going for a used driver and checking it

    Added after 3 [hours] 34 [minutes]:

    So yeah. I just returned to the house with the second driver with the same numbers. I connected and the Christmas tree on the board. Could any of my colleagues tell me how to code it all?

    Added after 7 [hours] 12 [minutes]:

    Nobody will help? The plus is that the parking brake works on both wheels. The downside was that I didn't write down the ABS coding
  • #22 16609122
    krys323
    Level 8  
    After 2 days of fighting and searching practically 3/4 of the American forums, everything was managed. I would also like to thank my colleague Ociz for his help. greetings
  • #23 16780592
    cas-it-solutions

    Level 4  
    hey Krys323 - would you put the coding for ABS and the driver on the forum? I have a similar problem:

    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3390687.html

    It may be useful, who knows ... at the moment I'm at the stage - "why did I lose access to basic settings after removing the motor ??" is this driver so sensitive that after such an attempt it is released immediately ??
  • #24 16803026
    krys323
    Level 8  
    But there is a different coding for each driver and car, so it won't do you too much.
  • #25 17535109
    flashh
    Level 25  
    I used this material a lot and I was even about to take care of the driver because I was convinced that it was damaged because the continuity of the motor circuit from the driver was OK, but it did not bother me that from time to time he turned the engine from the left brake.
    Left rear parking brake did not work and triggered error 02432, left brake voltage. Unable to delete. After inserting the key, he only operated once and he did not want to turn it anymore. During control on the table from the power supply, the current is about 1.5A. It turned out that the clutch was lubricated with copper grease, which was a mistake. Lubrication did not do anything with a different lubricant. Only after cleaning the grease and lubricating only the side guides of the clutch with ordinary grease, the current dropped to about 0.8A. After putting it on, it started to kick and the error could be deleted. So do everything you can to make the current idle about 0.8A and the problems will disappear.
    I hope it will be useful to someone.
    greetings
  • #26 17539663
    cas-it-solutions

    Level 4  
    For me, I was able to fix the error for some time by bleeding the brake system, but it turned out that the error returned.

    I go to basic settings and again I can not do any test or pull the pistons for replacement.

    VW Passat B6 3C - Parking Brake Failure After Discs and Pads Replacement, VCDS Adaptation Issues VW Passat B6 3C - Parking Brake Failure After Discs and Pads Replacement, VCDS Adaptation Issues

    The cable spits it out:

    Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
    Part No SW: 3C8 907 801 A HW: 3C8 907 801 A
    Component: J540 EPB3 VW-10 498 0003
    Revision: 009 Serial number: 00000000155188
    Coding: 0000057
    Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
    VCID: 285F92C69B323102C8-807C

    1 Fault Found:
    02442 - Function Lamp in Control Head
    009 - Open or Short to Ground - MIL ON
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 11111001
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 19
    Reset counter: 83
    Mileage: 202,825 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2018.07.19
    Time: 10:17:01

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 13.40 V
    Count: 81
    Speed: 0.0 km / h
    Hex Value: 0x12E0
    Hex Value: 0x0001
    Hex Value: 0x0202

    The error only indicates the lamp next to the button, which actually does not light, but also does not work for auto hold. However, this is not the biggest problem - it turns out that the rear brake pads are not pulled back sufficiently while driving and sometimes they scrub the disc, which causes the disc and alloy wheels to heat up. Once the rim got so hot that I thought the tire was on fire because I could smell the burning rubber. It is strange that it does not happen every time, but mostly on longer journeys.

    My first suspicion falls on the entire handbrake motor, but maybe there are some other ideas from forum users ... when I tested the toe-in of the wheels, the diagnostician told me that the pad could have swollen and it needs a little polishing.
  • #27 17586050
    flashh
    Level 25  
    When it comes to replacing or removing the blocks, you do not have to do it with a computer, just unscrew the entire parking brake (2 screws) and under this there is a screw for a large TORX and you will loosen the blocks for replacement, I did it myself when my hand wheel blocked me once.
    greetings
  • #28 17586204
    cas-it-solutions

    Level 4  
    hm, interesting ... so you don't have to pull back the pistons to get the blocks out? I have to see there, maybe actually. Are you sure it was in the b6 streak with automatic manual? Recently, when I had a problem with pulling the pistons by the computer, I was delaying the pistons by connecting the cables to the battery and applying voltage to the motor ankle.

    In addition, I found a video on YT that can be very helpful, for me there may be a similar problem, maybe not the same, but it may be related to the engine:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFJO3QZZi9k

    The current price of replacements is not knocking off my feet, so maybe I will just consider replacing:

    https://allegro.pl/silnik-silniczek-hamulca-recznego-vw-passat-b6-b7-i7193579139.html
  • #29 17586296
    michal2045
    Level 11  
    damaged brake controller?
  • #30 17586383
    Anonymous
    Level 1  

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a parking brake failure in a VW Passat B6 (3C) after the replacement of front and rear brake discs and pads. The user encountered issues with the parking brake system, particularly with the right rear caliper, which showed a lack of power error. Attempts to reset the system using VCDS and disconnecting the battery were unsuccessful. Various troubleshooting steps were suggested, including checking wiring continuity, cleaning contacts, and testing the brake controller. The user eventually replaced the brake controller, which resolved the issue, but they sought assistance with coding the new controller. The conversation highlighted the importance of proper voltage supply and the potential for issues arising from incorrect installation or component failure.
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