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Debate: Does Jump-Starting a Car with a Flat Battery Affect Battery Life?

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Can jump-starting a car with a very flat battery damage the battery and shorten its life, or is it harmless?

Jump-starting does not automatically ruin the battery, but a deeply discharged battery is already damaged, and repeated high-current starts are not recommended; charging it with a proper rectifier/current-controlled charger is better [#16616133][#16615655] When the donor car is running, the system is usually around 14.2 V, and cable/connecter resistance also limits the current, so the jump itself is not necessarily catastrophic for a still-functional battery [#16615902] The real problem is that you do not control the charging current during a jump start, so both the recipient battery and the donor alternator can be stressed [#16616133] In severe cases the donor alternator/regulator can be overloaded by very large currents, especially when thick cables are used and the dead car is started with the donor engine running [#16616133] So the safe recommendation is: avoid letting the battery get that low, and if it is discharged, recharge it properly instead of relying on jump-starts [#16615902][#16615720]
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  • #1 16615647
    joka25
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    I have discussions with a friend about the impact of starting a car with a flat battery using a second functional car. In my opinion, theoretically, applying voltage from a functional 14.7 v to a discharged 8 volt battery will cause a large difference in potential and a large charging current which badly affects the life of the plates in Aku (the weaker). He says it doesn't matter. Who's right?
    It is known that when you need it, it fires up but if possible you should avoid it
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  • #2 16615655
    niewolno2
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    It is better to charge the battery with the rectifier and control the charging current.
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  • #3 16615661
    joka25
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    I know, but how do you explain it to him when he doesn't see the difference between voltage and current?
  • #4 16615665
    niewolno2
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    Stop discussions with this colleague.
  • #5 16615693
    joka25
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    After all, I would ask someone for more comprehensive arguments.
  • #6 16615720
    niewolno2
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    Do you not understand something, if the guy does not see the difference between voltage and current, how do you want to convince him? If the charging current is adequate, there is no reason to damage the battery.
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  • #8 16615827
    kot mirmur
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    Where did colleague joka25 get these 14.7 V? The battery without charging [when the charger is disconnected] has a lower voltage. Read in the forum.
  • #9 16615891
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    kot mirmur wrote:
    Where did colleague joka25 get these 14.7 V?

    kot mirmur wrote:
    Read in the forum.

    And you buddy first post:
    joka25 wrote:
    In my opinion, theoretically applying voltage from a functional 14.7 v to a discharged let be 8 v
  • #10 16615902
    kortyleski
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    14.2 V if already. With the donor engine running. Plus, unless you have super cables, there will be resistance of the connectors and the wires themselves. The larger current will go from the recipient's alternator after firing. Therefore, you should not allow such a discharge of the battery, and if it happens, charge with a suitable rectifier. But it has already been written.
  • #11 16615942
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
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    joka25 wrote:
    In my opinion, theoretically, applying voltage from a functional 14.7 v to a discharged 8 volt battery will cause a large difference in potential and a large charging current which badly affects the life of the plates in Aku (the weaker).


    It's like calling an ambulance to a dead fox on the side of the road.

    Even if you want to charge it 24V it's nothing to replace.

    You just have to be careful that it doesn't explode and dap the car with its guts.
  • #12 16615946
    andrzej lukaszewicz
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    joka25 wrote:
    In my opinion, theoretically, applying voltage from a functional 14.7 v to a discharged 8 volt battery will cause a large difference in potential and a large charging current which badly affects the life of the plates in Aku (the weaker). He says it doesn't matter. Who's right?


    Since you allow the battery to discharge deeply, it means that you have already damaged it practically irretrievably and some agonizing is pointless.
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    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
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    Debate: Does Jump-Starting a Car with a Flat Battery Affect Battery Life?
  • #15 16618538
    Karaczan
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    That is why, for example, me, firing from cables, first charge the recipient with my alternator. But when starting the recipient, you absolutely put out your car. The alternator has not died yet ;)
  • #16 16618590
    TheArt
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    I will step on and ask professionals what the cable firing should look like.
  • #17 16618635
    Ricoh_220

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    From my practice I know that as I often fired cars neighbors always a simple rule I connect the batteries, I start my own car and smoke a cigarette.
    After this time, the recipient starts the engine, I have never had problems.
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  • #18 16618694
    TheArt
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    But when he starts, you turn the engine off.
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    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
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    @TheArt firing from cables should look exactly as it wrote @ Ricoh_220 . I would only exchange a cigarette for something healthier. :-)
    And the order of connecting activities is given in the graphic that I inserted.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion centers around the impact of jump-starting a car with a flat battery using a second vehicle. The original poster argues that the significant voltage difference (14.7V from the donor car to an 8V flat battery) can lead to high charging currents that may damage the battery plates. Responses suggest that while jump-starting can be effective, it is not without risks. Some participants emphasize the importance of using a proper rectifier for charging and controlling the current to avoid potential damage. Others note that if a battery has been deeply discharged, it may already be irreparably damaged. The consensus indicates that while jump-starting can work, it is advisable to avoid deep discharges and to charge batteries properly when possible.
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