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Extending 4x10 Power Cord, Dividing PEN Cable, and Phase Indicator Connection Methods

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  • #1 16620429
    nominal
    Level 10  
    Hello,
    the question may be trivial but I would like to be sure.
    I ran out of power to the switchboard and extended it this way as below in the photo (red box). 4x10 wire is extended with a 4x10 wire.
    I would also like to ask for a comment if I divided the PEN cable (as in the picture) - connected to Pe and Pe connected to N (cables connected only for show because I did not have 10 sleeves). Of course, I will connect the Pe rail with 16mm2 from SW.
    With Fr the wires will go to the distribution block.
    And the last question - does anyone have a way and what to connect the phase indicator to, because there are 6 or 4mm2 cables all around and 2.5mm2 to it, and connecting two cables with different cross-sections in one clamp is a bit unprofessional.
    Thanks for the hints. Extending 4x10 Power Cord, Dividing PEN Cable, and Phase Indicator Connection Methods Extending 4x10 Power Cord, Dividing PEN Cable, and Phase Indicator Connection Methods Extending 4x10 Power Cord, Dividing PEN Cable, and Phase Indicator Connection Methods
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  • #2 16620443
    kozi966
    Moderator of Electricians group
    Lord, where are the sleeves on these links?
    I omit the fact that the print industry starts to come out in the switchboard (4P RCD supplies 1P S-k).
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  • #3 16620449
    marcinolesno

    Level 17  
    Or he can do it inside the switchgear on the rail terminal blocks. zugach
  • #4 16620450
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    nominal wrote:
    I ran out of power to the switchboard and extended it this way as below in the photo (red box).


    It had to be extended with ZUG connectors which are mounted on a DIN rail.

    nominal wrote:
    I would also like to ask for a comment if I shared the PEN cable (as in the picture)


    It would be appropriate to mark the PEN wire properly.

    nominal wrote:
    does anyone have a way and what to connect the phase indicator to


    And where is the protection for the controls :?: what is the protection for this switchgear :?:

    Such connection is not allowed !!!

    Extending 4x10 Power Cord, Dividing PEN Cable, and Phase Indicator Connection Methods

    This is FR, RCD and SPD :?:
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  • #5 16620451
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    nominal wrote:
    Hello,
    I ran out of power to the switchboard and extended it this way as below in the photo (red box). 4x10 wire is extended with a 4x10 wire.
    I would also like to ask for a comment if I divided the PEN cable (as in the picture) - connected to Pe and Pe connected to N (cables connected only for show because I did not have 10 sleeves). Of course, I will connect the Pe rail with 16mm2 from SW.
    With Fr the wires will go to the distribution block.
    And the last question - does anyone have a way and what to connect the phase indicator to, because there are 6 or 4mm2 cables all around and 2.5mm2 to it, and connecting two cables with different cross-sections in one clamp is a bit unprofessional.
    Thanks for the hints.

    It is possible, but it is advisable, that both the wire and the rope be enclosed by two clamps. Of course, the cable in the sleeves (they are longer on sale, so no problem)
    For phase indicator, use a distribution block and, if required, provide protection for this indicator.
  • #6 16620460
    nominal
    Level 10  
    Correctly, the sleeves are not there yet, but they will be, I'm looking for long enough to make the contact as big as possible.
    And apart from the lack of sleeves, the idea of connection is acceptable?
    Ski connected to the RCD temporarily.

    Added after 8 [minutes]:

    Thanks for the quick responses.
    Actually, these ZUGs will probably be the best, the can will be removed.
    I didn't think about securing the controls, but they will be added.


    I think that since we are discussing on a professional forum, we should express ourselves professionally and not use shortcuts invented by ourselves. Especially that a colleague wants to create an installation project that I think is missing, and the colleague does not have the appropriate knowledge and qualifications! I remind you that we do not design electrical installations in this section! In the next statements, please convince me and the moderators about the rightness to leave this topic, that is, having appropriate design knowledge at the level of sufficient.
    [Akrzy]
  • #7 16620472
    kozi966
    Moderator of Electricians group
    Is there any design? Is it created "on the fly"?
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  • #8 16620486
    nominal
    Level 10  
    mawerix123 wrote:
    Such connection is not allowed !!!



    This is FR, RCD and SPD


    In fact, the connection is not very professional - it will be changed to 2X6
    SPD will of course be - I'm waiting for payment, because the switchboard + equipment is almost free ;)

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    kozi966 wrote:
    Is there any design? Is it created "on the fly"?


    The project is being created, I have time until spring for the electrics to be ready. For now, I'm slowly collecting ideas and completing the accessories
  • #9 16620495
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    Quote:
    The project is being created, I have time until spring for the electrics to be ready. For now, I'm slowly collecting ideas and completing the accessories
    I understand that a colleague has UB in design, right?
  • #10 16620504
    nominal
    Level 10  
    nominal wrote:
    I think that since we are discussing on a professional forum, we should express ourselves professionally and not use shortcuts invented by ourselves. Especially that a colleague wants to create an installation project that I think is missing, and the colleague does not have the appropriate knowledge and qualifications! I remind you that we do not design electrical installations in this section! In the next statements, please convince me and the moderators about the rightness to leave this topic, that is, having appropriate design knowledge at the level of sufficient.
    [Akrzy]


    I don't really have enough knowledge
    I'm closing the topic
    Good night

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around extending a 4x10 power cord and the proper handling of a PEN cable in a switchboard setup. The user seeks confirmation on their method of extending the wire and dividing the PEN cable, which connects the protective earth (PE) to the neutral (N). Concerns are raised about the lack of sleeves for the connections and the need for proper marking of the PEN wire. Suggestions include using ZUG connectors mounted on a DIN rail for better safety and organization. The importance of including protection for the controls and ensuring professional standards in electrical installations is emphasized. The user acknowledges the need for improvements in their setup and is in the process of designing a more robust electrical system.
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