Driving license - Validity period - application for new and continued driving

Hello,
I'm not sure if I found the right department, but I have a question about my brother-in-law. He forgot about the law ending, of course at the last minute (on the day of the end of the deadline) he submitted an application with examinations and fees, etc. The problem is that my brother-in-law is on the spot, I am in delegations, and someone has to take the child to kindergarten and wife to work (there is no public transport, route 15km one way), can now move by car without the risk of getting 5 pennies for lack of authorization, or maybe this information is in CEPIK and can continue to move by car in the event of getting 5 nozzles for missing document ?

Five pennies each time. Sad, but true - medical examinations extend the permissions, not the document.

eurotips wrote:

It will be treated as a lack of rights, so in the event of a collision OC will not protect.

I do not know how it is in the regulations, but no matter how you look, you have not lost your powers. The confirmation document has expired. The rights are for life unless the court ordered him to renew them from time to time (he had PJ taken away). So he should get five nozzles with a no driving ban. But this is just my opinion.

robokop wrote:

medical examinations extend their entitlements

Is it necessary to do a medical examination when exchanging PJ? This is sick. I hope that although they will respect my research from work, which I have to renew every five years (emergency vehicles).

I found something like this.
Quotation"

"The validity will not lose the right to drive vehicles, but the document that confirms them. (...) The entitlements remain valid" - said judge rapporteur Marek Kotlinowski, explaining why the Constitutional Tribunal did not recognize that there was a violation of acquired rights or the principle of citizens' trust to the state and its rights. "The document confirming this entitlement is not a rightfully acquired right" - noted TK. He did not share the arguments about the ambiguity of the challenged provision.

http://moto.onet.pl/prawo-jazdy/koniec-bezter...-praw-jazdy-badania-i-wymiana-co-15-lat/fknwh

maurycy123 wrote:

Is it necessary to do a medical examination when exchanging PJ? This is sick. I hope that although they will respect my research from work, which I have to renew every five years (emergency vehicles).

Read carefully:

pasieczko wrote:

He forgot about the law ending, of course at the last minute (on the day of the end of the deadline) he submitted the application with research and fees etc.

The driving license was issued on time, because the doctor issued a certificate with a specified period.
Period expires - no permission to drive ...

robokop wrote:

Read carefully:
Pasieczko wrote:
He forgot about the law ending, of course at the last minute (on the day of the end of the deadline) he submitted an application with examinations and fees, etc.

I have read it several times.

robokop wrote:

The driving license was issued on time, because the doctor issued a certificate with a specified period.

The author did not write anything like that.

pasieczko wrote:

submitted an application with tests

After that, you can possibly be begging if he had to do it, or simply he was overzealous.

robokop wrote:

Period expires - no permission to drive ...

In the absence of medical examinations you are right.
I moved and had to replace PJ. As the regulations have changed, I got it for 15 years. So I also have timely delivery. But I hope that I won't have to do the research again (I mean only money). At the company I work for, I renew my research every 5 years (research and psychotests). I hope they will "honor" it.

If the exchange results from the expiry of the code 95, and the B category has been fixed for an indefinite period, then the passenger car can drive as much as possible. You are describing something vaguely, these studies may suggest what I wrote above.

Unfortunately, there is no central records yet, You need to have "paper" with you.

Must have paper.
As a warning.
https://youtu.be/I6ME5zZbJi0

maurycy123 wrote:

robokop wrote:
Read carefully:
Pasieczko wrote:
He forgot about the law ending, of course at the last minute (on the day of the end of the deadline) he submitted an application with examinations and fees, etc.
I have read it several times.

So what if you didn't understand.

maurycy123 wrote:

robokop wrote:
The driving license was issued on time, because the doctor issued a certificate with a specified period.
The author did not write anything like that.

If he had to report "examinations" to the office, it means that he had PJ issued on time - for the period specified in the entry in the medical certificate. When exchanging the document for other reasons (outdated form, changes in the data contained therein), medical certificates are not necessary.

maurycy123 wrote:

I moved and had to replace PJ. As the regulations have changed, I got it for 15 years. So I also have timely delivery. But I hope that I won't have to do the research again (I mean only money). At the company I work for, I renew my research every 5 years (research and psychotests). I hope they will "honor" it.

Possession of PJ is to guarantee that the holder knows the PRoD Act and other legal acts related to it, as you can see some of them in chips probably found ...

szkieletor11111 wrote:

Unfortunately, there is no central records yet, You need to have "paper" with you.

How is it not? Is. Which does not change the form of things that the driver should have a physical document with him.

Central records are, but not as they should be. In the future, all you need is an ID card, which I wanted to say through my post.

kkknc wrote:

As a warning.
https://youtu.be/I6ME5zZbJi0

The guest had a limited date by the doctor, not because PJ's date had expired.

And that's probably why the policeman patted his shoulder, praised him and told him to go on. Did you see it in the movie?
He lost his driving license. Must have a set. Turn on thinking 1.42 on film and on.

robokop wrote:

Possession of PJ is to guarantee that the holder of the PRoD Act and other legal acts related thereto,

So if I don't have PJ with me (I left my wallet at home, although it doesn't happen to me), I can't drive and I don't know the rules?

robokop wrote:

If he had to report "examinations" to the office, it means that he had PJ issued on time - for the period specified in the entry in the medical certificate.

But the author did not write that he only had to provide.

maurycy123 wrote:

So if I don't have PJ with me (I left my wallet at home, although it doesn't happen to me), I can't drive and I don't know the rules?

No, it means that you rave to a colleague of the expert about something that you have no idea as you can see. In addition, you realize that when driving without a PJ document, you can have a towed vehicle? Because you cannot prove that you have the right to manage it, despite the fact that Cepik records show that you have the rights. Maybe you were detained abroad or just a few hours ago for booze, and the information about it has not yet been received?

maurycy123 wrote:

But the author did not write that he only had to provide.

Since he delivered, it means he must have, no? Oh yes, he threw out PLN 100 for a light hand, just in case?

Maurice, why are you discussing the rules? Explain. I don't understand, unfortunately.

Just with proof is not a good example. The place may end and you will receive a note.
But statements @ maurycy123 are just .........
If he drives like this, he knows the rules as a driver of a priority vehicle ........

Exactly, I think that this thread should be closed, because if we have such drivers it's a shame to discuss and a waste of time.

We close the topic. I just wanted a clear answer on how to solve the problem, and I see that there are more statements unrelated to the topic than there should be. PS. As one mentioned, the lack of an important document is like its complete absence. An application for extension submitted along with a doctor's certificate - a non-issued document, there is no way that you have PJ valid. Information from a traffic police officer - even if an application was submitted, even if a PJ was issued but it was not received (it is available for pickup in the system), the driver is still treated as without PJ. So then we have two options during the check. We accept 500 - if we explain it well, we get someone from PJ to take the car or we don't accept 500, the policeman treats it as an anger and a car tow truck for the parking lot + additional costs + an application to the court. As far as I know, now a police officer has the right to refuse someone to pick up a car and can simply send it to a police car park. Sumarum sum, the system is leaky, because until we actually receive a piece of plastic from the communications department, we are still treated as public road users without PJ. Regards.

Moderated By robokop:

The system is not leaky, it is as I wrote above - only physical possession of the document confirms with certainty that the user is authorized to drive a vehicle on public roads. The clerical towing of a vehicle results directly from art. 130a section 1 item 6 of the Road Traffic Law Act - "[...] driving it by a person who does not have the right to drive vehicles or whose driving license has been stopped and it is not possible to secure the vehicle by transferring it to a person in it who has the right to drive with this vehicle [...] "
Someone above asked for a note - a certificate from SKP about a positive result of a technical examination and a lack of places in the registration certificate - this certificate is valid for 30 days - that is what the user has time to exchange DR - in accordance with PRoD. After this period, the registration certificate is retained and sent to the appropriate eldership. And the user will be punished for the lack of document confirming the entry into service of the vehicle.