Renault Espace IV: Upgrade Cabasse Auditorium 13cm Door Speakers for Better Bass & Quality

Hello colleagues - the bus rides nice, but it's worse to play. The radio is a factory Cabasse Auditorium with a changer, no navi. I have now added the parrot mki9200 set and I would like to listen to good music, but if I can't complain about the cleanliness, the very weak bass is a downside for me. Mounting the box or tube is pointless for me because of the unwillingness to waste space.
I checked and 13cm speakers are originally installed in the door. I would like to exchange them for something that will give me bass and not just a substitute. Of course, it's not that the kennel shake because the roof will fall into poppy seeds
I thought I could damp the door and put on better speakers. Adding an amplifier also falls - well, unless it used to be. I thought to replace the speakers in the front door and leave the back as it is. Maybe some other idea. Now the speaker issue - I have no idea what to buy. Go further in 13cm or can it give distance and give 16cm? The loudspeaker company does not matter to me because I do not know it - I do not know how cheap boschmans play, or peyings or something else. On the other hand, if they can be decent they should be called as they want. I don't want to pay for the name of the company. Oh - for a moment I set up my Sony xplod - something probably about 30W and there was no frenzy and certainly not bass. Budget? As little as possible - max 400-500 PLN

Invest this money better in door preparation, i.e. improving the fastening of the speakers (MDF distance firmly bolted to the metal sheet), damping with mats and closing of technological holes. Without the above you won't get bass even if you spend 2x as much as you have to invest to buy speakers.

OK - of course I will. In order not to delay questions in the future:
- what mats \ tapes or plates to use for damping? I remember that there used to be some bitumen mats, but I think they can crack from the cold - yes? Once done well and I would like to choose the right material. The next question I would like to ask are the speakers in which to invest later, but I think in this situation the question may be a false start because I assume that the dynamics of the sound will improve after the door is ready. Nevertheless, when I sow a seed asking for speakers ...

Look at the butyl mats STP, CtK, GMS, Dynamat, Vibrofiltr, or Hollywood.

Thanks, I will cover the door and we will probably return to the speakers - unless the improvement is so great that you will not need

I have already ordered mats and I will cover this topic during the weekend. I wonder if in the budget I proposed I will choose some interesting speakers. Can you recommend something? I prefer to prepare substantive in case I have to look for speakers on Monday. What to look for And the question is 130 or 160?

The mission accomplished - the door silenced - there is indeed improvement, but still no shawl. I am still thinking about the speakers.

Any photos from work and final?

The last photo has been incorporated somewhere

I do not know if I can see correctly, but you have sealed the mounting holes with a mat without blinding them with sheet metal or other rigid material, which doesn't give much - a passive membrane is created.
As for speakers, of course, it's much better to go in 16cm when it comes to bass. I bought mac audio 16.2 for citroen xsara from cheap father that year. Admittedly two-way, which is obviously a disadvantage, but such speakers were cheap and in the nearest store that's why they were chosen. Amazingly they played ("played" at this price) ) and on the radio itself (after turning the sopranos to eq on the radio), the bass really was not lacking.
From others, you can look at Pioneer, Blaupunkt, which also have cheap speakers. All in all, Boschman have heard a few models and honestly some of them will gently play, others will sound like a whole.
Generally, what I recommend to you with a small amount of money go to the nearest store, take some cheap 16cm and test them in your car. You can always give back within a week.
And the most important improvement is attenuation.

This large hole is concave because this is the design of the sides of the door after putting it on it presses the mate and I think that there are no movements. Still an idea that I could instead peel off the original door fill. In my car, this is not a foil, but a profiled, hard upholstery. Maybe if I put on a good mat and put it on, it would be better. As for the speakers - somewhere I read something about helix speakers or something similar. During the week, I will order a distance for this car at 16 cm and improve damping. What to look for near the speakers? Low and medium tone? One way?

I thought about these HELIX B 62C

You know the best 2 or 3-way set, but don't lie to yourself, you won't find anything at this price.
Helixes, although a good company is the cheapest loudspeakers for me. Unless you listen to them in the dark, don't take them.

I understand. I would like someone to recommend specific models that you have heard and with a hand on your heart can be recommended. I can go to the mediamarkt today and see what they have. Buying from them is probably + 40% dreaming like in another store, but at least you can touch the goods.

There is muffled, assumed distances from mdf to 16cm + Morel maximo 6.2 speakers - The game sounds better than I expected and I think it will be even better. After some time, muffling the back door and changing the speakers + adding the amplifier.

No morel gives advice, only by buying them you probably didn't make it together with damping in the assumed amount of PLN 400-500
At this time, I strongly advise against putting anything on, I would even recommend cutting off the distortion. Put a good class amplifier on the front and it should be ok. Additionally, you can invest in some interesting radio.

As it happens in life - it comes out differently - more expensive than at the beginning. Muting the door + speakers + spacers + screws + cable = less than PLN 800

tomrom1985 wrote:

I understand. I would like someone to recommend specific models that you have heard and with a hand on your heart can be recommended. I can go to the mediamarkt today and see what they have. Buying from them is probably + 40% dreaming like in another store, but at least you can touch the goods.

First I would search the internet - enter the parameters dimensions and you have a ready list of equipment that matches the requirements. Look at centrumaudio.pl/103-glosniki-i-subwoofery and look at indicative prices and producers. Read the reviews and only then go shopping. And even if you find something media, then look at centrumaudio, you will definitely find cheaper and with free delivery.

tomrom1985 wrote:

As it happens in life - it comes out differently - more expensive than at the beginning. Muting the door + speakers + spacers + screws + cable = less than PLN 800

Tell me how many damping mats did you get and did you glue the doors and upholstery? Well done damping is nicely documented at basser.pl, but I have too few points to provide a link

I will look for bills and photos later. I have taken a photo of how I got it and how it is at the end. It seems to me that soundproofing came out about 3.5 - 4m2 on a couple of doors in the front.