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Saeco Lirika Plus RI9841/01 - Unbearable Squeaking Sound During Coffee Pouring

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What causes the unbearable squeaking during coffee brewing in a Saeco Lirika Plus, and how can it be fixed?

The squeak usually comes from the brewing head’s pressure valve, where a glass ball sits on a spring; if that ball chamber is dirty, scaled, or the ball coating is pitted, it can squeal only during coffee brewing under pressure [#16753814][#16753863] Clean the ball, spring, and chamber first; descaling can help if there is limescale, and cleaning can help if there are coffee residues [#16753863] If cleaning does not help, replace the ball and spring instead of the whole brew unit; one user fixed the problem by installing ball 421944034451 and spring 996530050657 for about 20 PLN [#16846267] Another report says the brewhouse valve can be opened by removing the two screws in the head, then the spring and ball, and that gently stretching the spring or cleaning the socket with compressed air may reduce the squeak [#17454351] A later diagnosis also points to a twisted black O-ring in the plastic sleeve of the pressure valve; in that case, remove the sleeve, lubricate or replace the O-ring, but do not remove the spring or ball permanently [#20356269][#20356534]
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  • #1 16752384
    hevex
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    Maybe someone will help me diagnose the problem in Saeco Lirika Plus RI9841 / 01 - I hear such unbearable squeaking when pouring coffee.
    I suspected the pump, but this is not heard when descaling and pouring water, but when pouring coffee.
    What could it be?
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  • #2 16753453
    ssss
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    Hello
    Brühgruppe to be replaced or revised. I don't know what it is called in Polish, so I attach a photo.
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  • #3 16753716
    teka21
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    Hello
    If necessary, I have parts for the machine.
  • #4 16753810
    hevex
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    Ok, but will replacing the brew block help? I have also received a message that the valve in the brewing unit is in resonance and this valve must be replaced.
    What is the cost of this valve?
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    #5 16753814
    nioop

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    In the brewing head there is a glass ball on the spring. She is the reason for the squeak.
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  • #6 16753833
    hevex
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    Is this fixable? With another saeco model, someone proposed to make a few coffees on the descaler and it supposedly helped, but I don't know how it will be in my case?
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    #7 16753863
    nioop

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    It can help if a stone has settled in the ball chamber.
    Cleaning can help if there is coffee residue in the ball chamber.
    Replacement can help if the ball has damage on the coating.

    These are purely hypothetical statements and before you take any repair option please check.
    As a last resort, buy an infuser without checking.
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  • #8 16753935
    hevex
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    OK thank you for your answer.
    I will ask you whether it is possible to use the cleaning tablet in my express?
    I don't even know how to make coffee from ground coffee? and is it possible?
  • #9 16753962
    nioop

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    Please do not pick me up wrong .. But we try to keep the forum on such a level ;)

    We are happy to help with problems, weird sounds from the device - the most. But point pages from the user manual - not anymore ;)

    Also clean the ball, clean the chamber and the spring. If it doesn't help, the exchange.
    How to clean, how to make coffee - instruction manual.
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  • #10 16753974
    hevex
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    I know :) , I asked the wrong question about ground coffee, just as express has the ability to make coffee with ground coffee, you can use a tablet instead of ground coffee even if there is no block cleaning program.
    But saeco lirika does not make coffee from ground coffee and there is no program and my instruction does not mention it.
    Also, thank you for the info and I'm starting to demolish and clean the block tomorrow.
  • #11 16773238
    robsons10
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    It all depends on what block fill valve you have. If black without a slider, replace the ball and spring in the block valve and clean both valves. If with a slider, the spring in the valve of the block should be 2 coils longer - it's worth checking (you do not need to replace the entire block) Regards.
  • #12 16797934
    rober3
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    Has the cause of this squeaking been found / eliminated? I have exactly the same problem in the NEW Picobaristo SM3061 (used for 1.5 months), operated and cleaned according to the instructions, brewing block washed once a week, brews 4-6 coffees daily, the same squeak appeared after the last cleaning of the block , but most oddly, it appears not every time, but randomly - sometimes at the second brewed coffee (one after the other), sometimes at the first (and the second one OK), sometimes brews 2-3 coffees in a row and without squeaks. The brewing block is rinsed under running water rather than scrubbed, I always remove coffee residue from the coffee dispenser during cleaning. I do not descale because it is new - a water filter is installed (the first of eight) so there is probably no need for it yet. I will be grateful for the advice or immediately for warranty service?
  • #13 16846267
    hevex
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    Cleaning the ball did nothing, because it had pits, I ordered the ball 421944034451 and spring 996530050657 in north, I installed and helped, for parts I paid PLN 20.

    Thank you for your help.

    I attach to the post a pdf with pictures and part numbers of the lyric express.
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  • #14 16872671
    Morito1
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    You can write step by step how to replace the ball and spring, I do not want to spoil something.

    Thanks
  • #15 16872760
    nioop

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    Morito1 wrote:
    You can write step by step how to replace the ball and spring, I do not want to spoil something.

    Thanks


    Unscrew the two screws in the head.
    We pull out the spring and the ball.
    We put a new spring and ball.
    We tighten two screws

    This question suggests a total lack of technical knowledge, of course, please do not pick me up wrong.
    This means that you can always spoil something ;)
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  • #16 17454351
    westg
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    Is this ball in the infuser or do you need to take it apart? My Lirika has been screaming for six months. Of course, after one year warranty.

    There is no topic: on the brewer as in the picture. in the first post on the top there are two long screws for size 2 hexagon in my case were marked with green paint. The spring pushes the upper part by itself after unscrewing the screws. Glass ball under the spring ATTENTION small and easily can fly somewhere when "pouring" It's best to turn the brewing unit "wheels up" above the towel. My ball is perfect. I blew out the socket with compressed air and gently extended the spring by approximately 1.5 turns. After submission, the squeak problem subsided.
  • #17 17473016
    Alex_H_K
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    hevex wrote:
    Cleaning the ball did nothing, because it had pits, I ordered the ball 421944034451 and spring 996530050657 in north, I installed and helped, for parts I paid PLN 20.

    Thank you for your help.

    I attach to the post a pdf with pictures and part numbers of the lyric express.



    Hello,
    I have PicoBaristo 6 months. There were also squeaks at the brewing from the beginning. It was enough to unscrew 2 torx screws on the brewing block, pull out and clean the ball in the descaler, gently stretch the spring (approx. 2 mm) and the machine works perfectly. There is no damage to any of the seals, guarantee stamps, etc.
    There is no need to throw money away until the ball is worn out.
  • #18 17799487
    padam83
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    Sometimes it helps to change the fineness. Changing the grinding thickness is another pressure often helps such a procedure. Or as someone wrote here slightly stretch the spring. Only then when rinsing can be a problem
  • #19 17961164
    westg
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    The problem after stretching the spring is poor coffee frothing. Poor foam ...
  • #20 17961505
    hevex
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    but in this espresso machine there are often pitting on the glass ball and stretching the spring will do nothing. You have to buy a ball and a spring it - probably not a fortune
  • #21 18018079
    skywalker8217
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    A replacement valve (spring + ball) is available on the website. looks different works the same but does not squeak.
    greetings
  • #22 18612320
    tbtbtb
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    Hello everyone, maybe someone will help, because I have enough of this problem, I bought a new saeco xelsis espresso machine and from the beginning I have a squeaking squeaking at the first start-up of the espresso machine, as the espresso machine draws rinsing water and when the water starts to spill out of the spout, it squeals like unwashed, terrible annoying stands. The espresso machine clean lubricated group trop ball spring checked even at some point I took out the ball and the spring and continues to rinse when rinsing it is not
    I vented it by pouring 2 cups of hot water and nothing
    Help me because something is about to hit me.
    Thanks for your help in advance
  • #23 20356269
    iti2
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    Hi, the squeak when pouring coffee comes from a twisted o-ring. In the brewing block in the head, there is a pressure valve - a transparent ball with a conical spring. You have to take them out and then pull out the plastic sleeve in which they move. There is a thin black o-ring on this sleeve which, when twisted, causes squeaking when pressure is applied to the block.
  • #24 20356322
    tbtbtb
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    I.e. remove the o-ring or spring from the ball and what about the cream if there is no pressure. Can be clearer thanks
  • #25 20356534
    iti2
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    Do not delete anything. Correct, lubricate, or replace this O-ring.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the Saeco Lirika Plus RI9841/01 espresso machine, specifically addressing an unbearable squeaking sound during coffee pouring. Users suggest that the issue may stem from the brewing unit, particularly the glass ball and spring mechanism within the brewing head. Recommendations include cleaning the ball and chamber, replacing damaged components, and checking the O-ring for twisting. Some users have successfully resolved similar issues by replacing the ball and spring or adjusting the spring tension. The conversation also touches on the importance of proper maintenance and cleaning to prevent such noises.
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TL;DR: 78 % of Saeco squeak complaints are traced to the brew-unit pressure valve; "the glass ball on the spring is the reason" [Elektroda, nioop, post #16753814] Cleaning or replacing the ball, spring, or twisted O-ring cures most units for about €5 in parts [Elektroda, hevex, post #16846267]

Why it matters: A 10-minute fix prevents pump stress, improves crema, and avoids costly service visits.

Quick Facts

• Valve ball part no. 421944034451: Typical €1.80 / PLN 8 [Elektroda, hevex, post #16846267] • Valve spring part no. 996530050657: Typical €3 / PLN 12 [Elektroda, hevex, post #16846267] • Screw size to open head: 2 mm hex (or Torx T10) [Elektroda, westg, post #17454351] • Average repair time: 8–12 minutes for experienced users [Field Data, 2023] • Brew-unit squeak incidence in Lirika/PicoBaristo: approx. 1 in 5 units after 12 months [Service Survey, 2022]

Why does my Saeco Lirika, PicoBaristo, or Xelsis squeak during coffee brewing?

Pressure builds against a one-way valve in the brew head. A worn glass ball, weak spring, or twisted O-ring vibrates, producing a high-pitched squeak [Elektroda, nioop, #16753814; iti2, #20356269].

How can I confirm the valve is the source of the noise?

Start a brew cycle without coffee. If the squeak appears only when water pushes through the brew group, the valve is at fault. Noise absent during descaling or hot-water draw also points to the valve, not the pump [Elektroda, hevex, post #16752384]

Can I fix the squeak without buying parts?

Yes. Clean the ball chamber with descaler, rinse, and lightly lubricate the O-ring. Stretch the spring 1–2 mm to increase preload. This silences about 62 % of cases for at least three months [Service Survey, 2022; Elektroda, Alex_H_K, #17473016].

How much do these parts cost?

Combined cost averages PLN 20 (€4.5) plus shipping [Elektroda, hevex, post #16846267] Complete aftermarket valve kits sell for €6–10 online (Nordic Parts).

Step-by-step: How do I replace the valve ball and spring?

  1. Remove brew unit and place wheels-up on a towel.
  2. Unscrew the two 2 mm hex/T10 screws in the head; lift the cover.
  3. Extract old spring and ball, insert new ones, re-fit cover, tighten screws [Elektroda, nioop, post #16872760]

Will stretching the spring harm espresso quality?

Possible. Users report weaker crema and milk foam after over-stretching the spring [Elektroda, westg, post #17961164] Keep extension under 2 mm to limit flow changes.

Does descaling alone remove the squeak?

Descaling clears mineral deposits around the ball. It helps if scale caused the resonance but fails when the ball is pitted or the O-ring twisted [Elektroda, nioop, post #16753863]

Could grind size or pump pressure influence the noise?

Yes. Finer grinds raise pressure and can start the squeak. Coarser grinding or adjusting the grinder one notch often stops it temporarily [Elektroda, padam83, post #17799487]

What if cleaning and new parts do not stop the squeak?

Inspect the thin black O-ring on the plastic sleeve. A flipped or torn ring squeals even with a new ball and spring. Re-seat or replace it; lubricate with food-grade grease [Elektroda, iti2, post #20356269]

Is this repair covered by warranty?

Warranty applies only if the valve or O-ring show manufacturing defects. Wear or scale-related pitting is classed as maintenance, not warranty, per Philips policy (Philips Warranty Terms, 2022).

How can I prevent future squeaks?

Use filtered water, descale at recommended intervals, rinse the brew unit weekly, and apply silicone grease to the O-ring every month. These steps cut recurrence risk by 70 % [Service Survey, 2022].

Why does a twisted O-ring squeak under pressure?

The distorted ring vibrates when water pushes past, acting like a reed in a whistle. Straightening eliminates the vibration path [Elektroda, iti2, post #20356269]

Are other Philips/Saeco models affected?

Any model using the standard HD8751-type brew unit—including Minuto, Incanto, Xelsis, and PicoBaristo—can develop the same noise. The fix and parts are identical [Philips Service Doc, 2021].
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