[Solved] Coffee maker Philips Saeco Intelia HD875- Too little water when making coffee.

Hello,
I have a coffee machine as in the subject. There were several problems with him, but somehow he always managed to get out of them.

Now he has another problem that is growing. Well, while making coffee, very little water is poured into the cups. Currently it's 1/3 cup. It used to be a whole cup. Water quantity adjustment is set to max. And there is a second problem that has already occurred, i.e. a large amount of water in the tray under the espresso machine. It used to be this way, I looked at the interior (after dismantling the casing), but there were no leaks. But the most important is the problem with a small amount of water in the cups. Is something clogging (because the problem is increasing)? Is it possible to "push" somehow without taking apart?

Welcome back,
Unfortunately, no one answered my problem. I had to dismantle the machine and look for the cause of the faults.
First of all - a water leak is pouring from the valve supplying water to the brewing element. I have already ordered seals (two orings)
Secondly - the display is damaged (red). This made it difficult to perform descaling, for example. Invisible messages about what to do next.
I read all the posts on Elektroda and I used the advice of one of my colleagues, that is, I bridged the wires from red with green. Now all messages are green but legible.
NEXT QUESTION: After removing the display cover, I noticed a small micro switch under the display. Can anyone know what it is used for?
This information may be useful to me in the future.
I request information.
Regards

Hello,
unfortunately I have to report to the forum again. I thought I solved this problem. Unfortunately I failed.
I bought a set of gaskets (two, large and small) red and replaced them. Unfortunately, it did nothing. Water was pouring down like it was pouring. I opened the coffee maker again and gave the instruction to make coffee. Half the water is poured through the coffee into the glass, the other half is poured into the tray under the coffee machine. Due to the fact that I had an open housing and a "deceived" sensor to close the housing, I could see again where the water was going.
I attach a picture. Water is pouring in this recess on the back wall.
I am asking for help again. Where to find the reason.

Hello

Did you successfully solve the problem? Because, unfortunately, it has been the same for some time, i.e. less and less coffee in a cup and more and more water in a drip tray. I looked quickly at the brewing area and it's dry there, no leaks. The brewing unit is not cracked and the strainer is not clogged. I am afraid that water escapes through the compensation valve (16-18 bar) from which the drain is directly directed to the tray.
I descaled the machine twice in a short time because I thought it would help. This was the last time Saeco's original product was used, and it did nothing.
I admit that the problem arose some time ago after I descaled the machine with a regular citric acid solution. I do not know if the acid concentration was too high and whether I could damage something and weaken the valve tightness. Everyone rather says that citric acid is quite "safe" for the coffee machine.

An attempt to program a larger amount of coffee gives nothing, because I think I have reached the maximum water limit programmed at the factory for a particular type of coffee.

For some time I also had a problem with frothing milk (too low steam pressure), but after the last descaling this problem solved.

Hello,
I had exactly the same. I searched the entire espresso machine for leaks and nothing.
The owner of SAECO helped me. He wrote back to me that this is a fairly common fault in these machines. The so-called "finger" is guilty of supplying water to the infuser. (invisible crack). I bought a new one on the net for around PLN 25, I set up a new one and it's great. I will mention that I tried to glue this old cracked toe with super glues and nothing. Always after brewing the joint cracked. In addition, in addition to the symptoms described by you, a lot of water got into the coffee grounds container.
I attach a photo of this big toe. This is the element with two red seals. Be careful, because the prices vary from just PLN 25 to PLN 95. Curious.



Ps. Let me know if I helped. Regards

Hello

Thanks for the answer. So today I once again sat down to the problem and found that it is leaking from the area as you called it "big toe", on the back wall of the espresso machine chamber in which the entire brewing unit is. And it turned out that I was not guilty of this "toe" (I'd rather call it a stub) but the plastic element of the brewing unit, which is actually the toe. He had a microcrack, whose place I marked with the arrow in the photo. I located the microcracks invisible to the eye, moisturizing the surface thoroughly with soap and water, plugging the outlet and blowing into the inlet. Luckily, I still had a full working brewer from my old Saeco Incanto espresso machine in stock, in which electronics sat completely. The brewer is a bit different than in Intelia, but the element itself was identical. I exchanged and as he took away his hand, nothing leaks while making coffee. After all, big coffee is big. By the way, it's strange that this element is cracking, probably made of some dumb plastic. The fact that the water pressure is high there, but without exaggeration.

I claim that the fault has been repaired. Difficult to locate because of so many and invisible. I also checked where the crack was, painting valy finger nail polish and after brewing it was clearly visible where the varnish cracked. I fixed this cracked element (I remembered) by wrapping it with a thin wire and a component resin for it. Now I have it in emergency storage.
Nice, we can drink a good morning coffee again. Regards

BURMAR wrote:

Difficult to locate because of so many and invisible.

It is true. At some point I wanted to give up because I also mentioned the O-rings on this connection and in the middle and it did nothing. Initially, I did not think that the plastic itself could have a microcrack and it was invisible at first glance.
I'm going to try to glue it together with two-component glue and keep it in storage.

This element that I used from old Incanto is like made of slightly different, better plastic, it is gray instead of black. He served many years and still proved to be tight. It seems that Intel has made some material changes in this regard, not necessarily a plus.

BURMAR wrote:

NEXT QUESTION: After removing the display cover, I noticed a small micro switch under the display. Can anyone know what it is used for?
This information may be useful to me in the future.
I request information.
Regards

The answer can be quite prosaic. I don't know exactly what model you have, but if HD8751 or HD8752 is in the higher model HD8753, which already has an automatic milk frother, there is an additional "Cappuccino" button under the display. It is possible that the display and button board itself is universal for both models, and even immediately equipped with a set of buttons.

The reason was a crack in the so-called toe, feeding water to the brewing element. I replaced the new one and glued it as a spare. OK.
Thanks for the help