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"Installer" installed a gas stove - years, it blows.

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  • #1 16828625
    marek.nosal
    Level 4  
    A licensed fitter installed a gas stove in my bathroom today.
    The effect below.
    He wrote down PLN 150.
    He installed the same model of the furnace in place of the old, damaged one. For the PLN 150, he screwed in two water hoses and a gas pipe, plus its mounting to the wall with a clamp.

    In order not to disassemble the stove in order to tighten the hooks, the poxilina went in motion. Maybe it sounds weak, but in this way I eliminated the gap between the wall and the stove housing.
    It's just blowing.
    The stove fires up after a few seconds.
    Previously, I had the same stove and after 7 years it did not blow, and it fired very quickly after 1.5 seconds.
    I omit the fact that he probably inserted the casing with his foot.
    In six months it will rust.

    "Installer" installed a gas stove - years, it blows.

    In my opinion, this is a badly adjusted stove. What's next? Call a service technician is it under warranty or what's next, etc.? Maybe just some professional fitter? (this one was also professional)

    [movie: 0788e326f3] https://filmy.elektroda.pl/92_1510865722.mp4 [/ movie: 0788e326f3]


    [movie: 0788e326f3] https://filmy.elektroda.pl/41_1510865457.mp4 [/ movie: 0788e326f3]
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    #2 16828660
    kz61
    Level 27  
    And it is a big problem to write what device it is.
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    #4 16829239
    dobroslaw

    Level 22  
    The question is whether there is air supply in this bathroom (there is to be), or is there a mechanical exhaust, i.e. a fan (there is no right to be), because it looks like there is a small backwater at the start, see if it repeats with the window open, it can also be too large gap between ionization electrode and burner, or gas pressure not adjusted. By the way, what did you expect for PLN 150, a good installer for such an amount, especially in the middle of the heating season, would not even talk to you, and the more he would risk and sign up to start such a stove.
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  • #5 16829625
    marek.nosal
    Level 4  
    Airflow? Or an ordinary chimney vent? There is a string, it works. There is no mechanical lift. The window is 30 cm from the stove and the effect is the same even with an open, aired bathroom.
    I bet on that electrode or the pressure.
    If someone says he will, would you not agree? Assembling the stove of the same type. The question of screwing the hoses from the water and the pipe from the gas. With the latter, a bit of filming, but no exaggeration.
    I arranged a service with Vaillant.
  • #6 16830335
    kz61
    Level 27  
    It's a pity this Opalia, it's a successful model.
    MAGa check without housing. If there is no improvement, it will be a servo motor under a magnifying glass.
    I assume that the water supply and discharge are not kicked in, choked, not changed, filters clean.
  • #7 16831062
    marek.nosal
    Level 4  
    It is the same as with Opalia. Water, gas etc.
    Well, we can just ask. It will appear after the site visit.

    ps. I remember how Opalie advised me not to buy it. :)
  • #8 16839073
    marek.nosal
    Level 4  
    I am after a visit from a service technician from Vaillant.

    It describes:
    The service technician enters the room, measures the sensor to see if there is any gas leakage from the valve to the stove.
    After a while I release the hot water tap in the sink.
    Same effect as in the video above.
    The service technician takes out a screwdriver and bends the ignition electrodes hard.
    I fire up again. Same effect.
    The service technician puts the screwdriver in an unspecified place and after a while says that it should be like this and that it is correct.

    I explain that sometimes the flame escapes behind the furnace casing. My translations for nothing.
    I ask why did he bend the electrodes if now he says everything is fine? It is a roundabout route from Krakow to Warsaw via Budapest.

    I see an "olewka" of a service technician here. ... "because this stove has that and it doesn't start for a long time".

    What do you advise?
  • #9 16839166
    ^ToM^
    Level 42  
    marek.nosal wrote:

    The service technician puts the screwdriver in an unspecified place and after a while says that it should be like this and that it is correct.

    I explain that sometimes the flame escapes behind the furnace casing. My translations for nothing.
    I ask why did he bend the electrodes if now he says everything is fine? It is a roundabout route from Krakow to Warsaw via Budapest.

    I see an "olewka" of a service technician here. ... "because this stove has that and it doesn't start for a long time".

    What do you advise?


    I think this man does not understand exactly how it all works and how it is arranged and is trying to make things happen by trial and error.
    I would not call him a professional.
    I would try to find a different person, more knowledgeable about heating devices.

    Greetings!
  • #10 16839666
    marek.nosal
    Level 4  
    ... well, but now there is probably only an appraiser, because how can I get something in terms of warranty / warranty repair, if the Vaillant service technician found that the stove is working properly.
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    #11 16840044
    dobroslaw

    Level 22  
    If everything is installed in accordance with the art, an unobstructed chimney, regulated maximum and minimum pressures, air supply to the room (air supply from the outside, i.e. grille, gravity exhaust is to be additionally), the boiler should work well, I put on a chimney path or too little fresh air. If an authorized service technician determines that it is good, you will not do anything with an expert, you will not do anything but just cost yourself. You will only have the opinion of another service technician, so call him sometimes someone else comes up with a solution.
  • #12 16850564
    krzsboj
    Level 13  
    Hello, just before unscrewing the hot water tap, in the place of the ignition electrode of the magneto, apply a lit match or a lighter, turn on the water and check if the problem persists.
    Does the flame burn evenly on all sections of the burner during heater operation?
    The position of the left knob for the heating power and the right temperature selector.

Topic summary

A licensed installer replaced an old gas stove with a Vaillant Heater atmoMAG mini 11-0 XI H in a bathroom for PLN 150. The user reports issues with the stove blowing and slow ignition, contrasting with their previous Saunier Duval Opalia C11E, which functioned well for seven years. Concerns were raised about air supply, gas pressure, and the installation quality, especially given the low installation cost. A service technician from Vaillant inspected the stove but did not resolve the issues, leading to frustration over the perceived lack of professionalism. The user is considering further action regarding warranty and service.
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