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Skoda Felicia 1.6 1997: Reconnecting Key Ignition Button - Wiring & Installation Guide

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  • #1 16950342
    Dawidos97
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    Skoda Felicia 1.6 1997: Reconnecting Key Ignition Button - Wiring & Installation Guide Skoda Felicia 1.6 1997: Reconnecting Key Ignition Button - Wiring & Installation Guide Skoda Felicia 1.6 1997: Reconnecting Key Ignition Button - Wiring & Installation Guide Skoda Felicia 1.6 1997: Reconnecting Key Ignition Button - Wiring & Installation Guide Hello, a month ago I bought a Skoda Felicie 1.6 1997 hatchback, it had a button firing that worked on the principle of inserting the key into the ignition switch, turning it to the ON position, i.e. maximally to the right and pressing the button and you had to hold it, but this button fell out with the cables. So my question is if I bought the same button as to connect it, a button like in the picture, with two pins, a cable is connected to one pin and the other probably had nothing. How do you bite it?


    This ignition switch looks more like in the pictures and such cables are loose, from what I know, blue is from the starter, so I need to connect the blue button to this button and which is the second? Or to the ignition pin, I'm completely green.

    [Photo] http://electropark.pl/2622-thickbox/przycisk-monostabilny-okragly-zwierny.jpg [/ photo]

    This is what it all looks like:

    Skoda Felicia 1.6 1997: Reconnecting Key Ignition Button - Wiring & Installation Guide Skoda Felicia 1.6 1997: Reconnecting Key Ignition Button - Wiring & Installation Guide Skoda Felicia 1.6 1997: Reconnecting Key Ignition Button - Wiring & Installation Guide Skoda Felicia 1.6 1997: Reconnecting Key Ignition Button - Wiring & Installation Guide

    Blue is rather from the starter because the starter under the hood also comes out like a blue one.


    So as for the button you need to connect?
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  • #2 16950428
    marfur30
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    12V power supply. Besides, it is not better to repair the ignition?
  • #3 16950439
    Dawidos97
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    I was thinking about it too, but after unscrewing the casing, after seeing the headless screws, I decided that it would be easier to do so, besides this car costs 1000 zlotys, so .. :P


    And as for the answer, the power supply is connected as it was, i.e. to "30" so how did it work before if the power supply was not connected to the button, unless there was some cable somewhere, and whether it will work if I disconnect the power from the ignition switch.
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  • #4 16950448
    abart64
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    You remove the ignition switch separately. Edge 12 to unscrew the column so that it goes down with the steering wheel and a small flat screwdriver to unscrew the two screws in the ignition switch and you have this electrical part in your hand.
  • #5 16950465
    Dawidos97
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    This is what it looks like, 4 are headless screws, the so-called breakaway screws, in which the head breaks off when tightened

    Skoda Felicia 1.6 1997: Reconnecting Key Ignition Button - Wiring & Installation Guide


    And that goes into this flange with this pin where the screws are

    Skoda Felicia 1.6 1997: Reconnecting Key Ignition Button - Wiring & Installation Guide
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  • #6 16950475
    tzok
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    The button that had to short the two wires ... what's your problem? The ignition switch in the START position connects terminal 30 with terminal 50. However, you should close 15 with 50, so that the button does not engage the starter with the ignition off.
  • #7 16950487
    Dawidos97
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    tzok wrote:
    The button that had to short the two wires ... what's your problem? The ignition switch in the START position connects terminal 30 with terminal 50. However, you should close 15 with 50, so that the button does not engage the starter with the ignition off.


    The problem is that I do not know what cables were connected and where, reansuming to one pin, I have to connect the starter cable and the other one which was in place 15 and it does not have to be connected to this cube?

    Sorry for the stupid questions but I'm totally green on this tm.
  • #8 16950495
    abart64
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    There should be an additional wire for the button from 15.
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  • #9 16950522
    Dawidos97
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    I suppose this cable was connected there:
    [/url] Skoda Felicia 1.6 1997: Reconnecting Key Ignition Button - Wiring & Installation Guide


    only that he has, so to put it, a pin inserted into the pin, i.e. there is only one plug, is it possible? So I have this button cable put into the cable that goes to 15 or to the pin that is on the ignition?
  • #10 16950554
    abart64
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    The original cable from the car's installation is to be inserted into pin 15 of the ignition switch and an additional button for the button should go from it.
  • #11 16950558
    Dawidos97
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    Okay, thank you, I'll try to do it by trial and error, best regards!
  • #12 16950741
    marfur30
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    Take the control lamp in your hand and measure which wire shows the current after ignition.
    When you find this cable, attach the second cable to it and connect it to the button and that's it. :)

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around reconnecting the ignition button for a 1997 Skoda Felicia 1.6 hatchback after the original button and its wiring fell out. The user seeks guidance on how to properly connect a new button with two pins, one of which is connected to the starter cable. Various responses suggest that the power supply should connect to terminal "30" and that an additional wire from terminal "15" of the ignition switch is necessary for proper functionality. Users also discuss the challenges of accessing the ignition switch due to headless screws and recommend using a control lamp to identify the correct wire for connection.
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FAQ

TL;DR: For a Skoda Felicia 1.6 (1997), 3 terminals matter—30, 15, 50. “The ignition switch in START connects 30 with 50.” Use a momentary button to bridge 15→50 so it won’t crank with ignition off. [Elektroda, tzok, post #16950475]

Why it matters: This FAQ shows how to wire a safe push-start button without mis-cranking or chasing diagrams—ideal for DIYers replacing a fallen-out start button.

Quick Facts

Which two wires do I bridge for a safe push-start button?

Bridge terminal 15 (ignition ON feed) to terminal 50 (starter control) through a momentary button. This prevents cranking with the ignition OFF, unlike bridging 30→50 directly. “The ignition switch in START connects 30 with 50,” but the button should use 15→50. [Elektroda, tzok, post #16950475]

How do I prevent the button from cranking with the ignition OFF?

Ensure the button only has power when the key is in IGN (terminal 15). Wire the button between 15 and 50. That way, no voltage reaches the starter unless the ignition is on. This avoids accidental engagement while the key is off. [Elektroda, tzok, post #16950475]

What do terminals 30, 15, and 50 mean on this ignition switch?

30 is the battery feed, 15 is the ignition-switched output, and 50 is the starter solenoid control. In START, the switch connects 30→50; for a retrofit button, use 15→50 to keep cranking interlocked with ignition ON. [Elektroda, tzok, post #16950475]

How do I find the ignition-on (15) wire without a diagram?

Use a simple 12 V test lamp. Turn the key to ON and probe wires; the one that lights only after ignition is your 15 feed. Connect one side of the button there and the other to the starter control wire. “Attach the second cable to it and connect it to the button.” [Elektroda, marfur30, post #16950741]

Do I need an extra wire from terminal 15 for the button?

Yes. Keep the factory wire in pin 15, then add an additional short lead from pin 15 to one pin of the button. Connect the other button pin to the starter control wire (50). This preserves OEM function and adds the push-start path. [Elektroda, abart64, post #16950554]

Is a simple 2-pin momentary button enough for this mod?

Yes. The thread’s retrofit used a round monostable 2-pin push-button. One pin goes to the ignition-on feed (15), the other to the starter control wire (50). Hold to crank, release to stop cranking. Keep it rated for automotive 12 V. [Elektroda, Dawidos97, post #16950342]

Can I power the button directly from the battery 12 V (terminal 30)?

It will crank if you bridge 30→50, but that allows starter engagement with ignition OFF. The recommended, safer approach is wiring 15→50 so the button works only when the key is ON. That interlocks cranking with ignition. [Elektroda, tzok, post #16950475]

How do I remove the electrical part of the ignition switch?

Lower the steering column (use an E12/“Edge 12” style tool), then use a small flat screwdriver to undo the two screws for the electrical switch. The electrical section comes off without drilling the shear bolts. [Elektroda, abart64, post #16950448]

What color is the starter control wire in this Felicia retrofit?

In the OP’s car, a blue wire appeared at both the starter under the hood and in the column harness. That blue lead was treated as the starter control (50) during the retrofit. Verify with a test lamp before finalizing. [Elektroda, Dawidos97, post #16950342]

Quick 3-step: How do I wire the push-start button safely?

  1. Turn key to ON and use a test lamp to find the wire that goes live only with ignition.
  2. Run a short lead from that ignition-on wire to one button pin.
  3. Connect the other button pin to the starter control wire and test. [Elektroda, marfur30, post #16950741]

What’s the risk if I wire the button from 30 to 50?

The starter can engage with the ignition OFF, which is unsafe and can damage components. Use 15→50 instead so cranking only happens with ignition ON. That single change adds a critical safety interlock. [Elektroda, tzok, post #16950475]

Should I just repair the ignition switch instead of adding a button?

You can. One response recommends fixing the ignition rather than adding a button. The system is 12 V, and restoring OEM function avoids extra wiring. If cost or shear bolts deter you, the button method remains viable. [Elektroda, marfur30, post #16950428]
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