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Intermittent Fade Out of NC+ TVP1 HD Channel: Possible Signal or Permission Issues

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  • #1 16988912
    Bałdyzer
    Level 12  
    Maybe some of you had a similar very strange problem. I've been thinking about it for many months now and I can't think of anything rational.
    At home I have an nc + TV on three decoders, the powers go through a wired pic splitter. My set-top boxes are one original from nc + Pace HD and two universal Ferguson HF8800.
    The problem is that sometimes (once every few days) all channels work normally, and TVP 1 HD stops working for a few minutes, then the picture comes back, then fades out and so on a few times and then everything goes back to normal. There are two possibilities or a weak signal or something with permissions, but why at the same time when TVP1 disappears other channels, even the paid ones and even the HD ones work normally?
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  • #2 16988993
    maksar
    Level 34  
    Bałdyzer wrote:
    There are two possibilities or a weak signal or something with permissions, but why at the same time when TVP1 disappears other channels, even the paid ones and even the HD ones work normally?

    Identify yourself when you do not want anything.
    No signal and no authorization are two fairy tales.
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  • #3 16989033
    Bałdyzer
    Level 12  
    Well, the point is, if the fault was on the side of the lack of permissions, why all other encrypted channels work at the same time. And the same with the signal, when it was weak, other channels would also not go. So logically, neither the lack of permission nor the lack of a signal is probably the reason for the interrupting TVP 1 HD channel. So what is this strange mysterious situation all about?
  • #4 16989051
    maksar
    Level 34  
    Bałdyzer wrote:
    So what is this strange mysterious situation all about?

    In the position of the antenna and converter.
  • #5 16989063
    Bałdyzer
    Level 12  
    Well, the signal is good, since all channels go except this one, unless the TVP1 HD station, unlike the other channels, requires a signal at 100%, i.e. ideal
  • #6 16989066
    maksar
    Level 34  
    What measure did you check it with?
  • #7 16989184
    _kli_
    Level 41  
    Bałdyzer wrote:
    all channels they work normally, and TVP 1 HD stops working for a few minutes, then the picture comes back

    All of which means also the rest of this transponder ?
  • #8 16989525
    Bałdyzer
    Level 12  
    maksar wrote:
    What measure did you check it with?

    On the HF Ferguson series, there is a bar in the menu where you can see the signal level in percent

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    _kli_ wrote:
    Bałdyzer wrote:
    all channels they work normally, and TVP 1 HD stops working for a few minutes, then the picture comes back

    All of which means also the rest of this transponder ?

    Thanks for the advice. I will check the other channels from the same transponder as soon as problems with TVP 1 HD start
  • #9 16989595
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #10 17060661
    Bałdyzer
    Level 12  
    Today I noticed one relationship. I was watching TVP1-HD in the living room and suddenly the picture went blank while all the other pay channels were working normally. I went to the bedroom and turned on the second set-top box on TVP1-HD and at that moment the picture on the TVP1 HD channel came back in the living room. I would like to add that both decoders have the signal from a common QUAD converter, and they derive their powers from the same wired PIC splitter. Any magic mary with this TVP1 HD channel?
  • #11 17060682
    _kli_
    Level 41  
    Bałdyzer wrote:
    They derive their powers from the same wired PIC splitter

    In splitter, you have a "mother" card that downloads permissions from the satellite.
    Bałdyzer wrote:
    TVP1-HD and suddenly the picture will go blank

    What's your message - "No signal" or "Scrambled channel"? The first indicates a problem with the installation, and the second indicates a problem with the "daughter" card or in conjunction with the splitter.
  • #12 17061007
    LeDy
    Level 43  
    Bałdyzer wrote:
    I would like to add that both decoders have the signal from a common QUAD converter, and they derive their powers from the same wired PIC splitter. Any magic mary with this TVP1 HD channel?

    View on another converter, preferably Inverto.
  • #13 17061301
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #14 17061963
    Adewag
    Level 21  
    By way of elimination, test without a splitter on the card itself. (if the rest of the users agree :wink: )
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  • #15 17062252
    Bałdyzer
    Level 12  
    Maybe in the spring it is worth buying a new QUAD converter, because mine is about 9 years old, so probably the newer ones have better amplification and lower noise, and they do not cost a lot of money. I am just wondering if it is worth buying something better, e.g. from Inverto for PLN 80 with a noise factor of 0.3 dB, since for half of this price for about PLN 40 are QUAD converters with noise at the level of 0.1 dB? Well, unless in these cheap converters the parameters are the same as in cheap Chinese AA-type batteries, that they supposedly have a capacity of 4500 mA, which in reality turns out to be a complete lie, because they do not really have even 1/3 of the given capacity.
  • #16 17062272
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #17 17062487
    Adewag
    Level 21  
    Check converter angle setting but no gauge ....
  • #18 17062691
    _kli_
    Level 41  
    Bałdyzer wrote:
    e.g. from Inverto for PLN 80 with the noise figure 0.3db
    Inverto.tv wrote:
    Noise figure - 0.2 dB typ. (0.7 dB Max .)

    http://www.inverto.tv/lnb/259/selected-quad-40mm-lnb
    Bałdyzer wrote:
    QUAD converters on sale with noise at the level of 0.1db? Well, unless in these cheap converters the parameters are the same as in cheap Chinese AA batteries
    Satkurier wrote:
    There are no best converters, just as there is no "better" parameter. The converter is uneven and there is no need to choose by color, country of production or the unfortunate noise figure, which has been commonly and for years falsified for better sales. Only Japanese brands (Sharp, Alps) basically gave up the use of the so-called low noise in dB, because on the packaging, the Chinese already wrote 0.1 dB, while those who knew what was going on were knocking on the head that it might as well have been written 0.01 dB .

    http://satkurier.pl/news/158751/konwertery-10-pytan-i-odpowiedzi.html?news_page_id=0
  • #19 17063390
    Bałdyzer
    Level 12  
    Today I researched the situation a bit and it is a bit strange because I already know that the lack of an image on TVP1 HD at 100% is the fault of the poor signal. I checked the channels from the same transponder (Romance, nSport +) and the signal quality is at the level of 19% - of course, this is not enough for proper reception. . The situation is strange because on the same decoder in the bedroom, the signal from the same converter is already at the level of 30% and this is enough for the TVP1-HD to work without pixelation. On the third set-top box in another room, the signal (quality) from the same converter is at 50%. Where do these differences in signal quality come from, if all decoders come with cables from the same source, i.e. a QUAD converter?
  • #20 17063393
    maksar
    Level 34  
    Bałdyzer wrote:
    Where do these differences in signal quality come from, if all decoders come with cables from the same source, i.e. a QUAD converter?

    Do you know how he is built?
  • #21 17063467
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #22 17063496
    Bałdyzer
    Level 12  
    I do not know how it is built, I did not replace the decoders
  • #23 17063639
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #24 17064682
    viper99
    Level 7  
    at 99% it will be a converter.
    You wrote that you have it for several years. Now new converters can be defective like any electronic device.
    I myself have encountered cases like yours, that all other frequencies and channels worked correctly and cut just the frequency 11449H (TVP1 HD) or another.
    The amplifiers inside are responsible for the given polarity and frequency.

    Change the converter if you have the possibility and check the effect.
  • #25 17064715
    LeDy
    Level 43  
    Bałdyzer wrote:
    Today I researched the situation a bit and it is a bit strange because I already know that the lack of an image on TVP1 HD at 100% is the fault of the poor signal. I checked the channels from the same transponder (Romance, nSport +) and the signal quality is at 19% -?

    Now, start with setting the antenna and then possibly replacing the converter.
    Do not look at the differences because not every tuner shows the same. It can even be deformed and then it will also be different with different transponders. Slightly "bend" the top of the canopy (left-right, up-down) and see if the quality improves.
  • #26 17064754
    viper99
    Level 7  
    LeDy you are right, each tuner has a differently calibrated head. But if the dish was deformed, it would certainly have problems with other transponders. The satellite signal reflects the same for all frequencies.
  • #27 17064761
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #28 17064809
    Bałdyzer
    Level 12  
    Well, then when it gets warmer, I will buy and replace the converter. What company do you recommend the QUAD type?
  • #29 17065144
    LeDy
    Level 43  
    At the beginning you have to check if the dish is deformed because buying a converter may not give you anything. And the converter Inverto.
    I had a case that the decoder, probably TVP-1 HD (11449H), was not picking up and the converter was to blame.
  • #30 17065301
    Bałdyzer
    Level 12  
    For me, the problem with this TVP1-HD occurs only occasionally, often in the evening hours, sometimes once every few days. Mostly this channel receives normal reception. Maybe when spring arrives, the reception will be better, because I live in the mountains and the converter and antenna will sometimes be covered with snow. And if spring does not help, I will buy a QUAD from Inverto

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around intermittent signal issues with the NC+ TVP1 HD channel, experienced by a user with three decoders connected through a wired PIC splitter. The user notes that while other channels function normally, TVP1 HD occasionally fades out, leading to speculation about signal strength or permission issues. Various contributors suggest checking the antenna alignment, the quality of the QUAD converter, and the possibility of interference from nearby devices. The user later confirms that after replacing the old converter with a new Inverto Quad, the signal improved significantly, although occasional disruptions still occur. The conversation highlights the complexity of satellite signal reception and the importance of equipment quality and configuration.
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