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Skoda Octavia 2 TDI (2005, 2.0, BKD) - Starting Issues: Only Starts on Second Attempt, No Errors

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  • #1 17026173
    arrrturek
    Level 11  
    Hello, I have a Skoda Octavia 2 with a 2.0 tdi engine, BKD 2005 code. After a long stop, the car does not start the first time, but the second time, and it does not start. Regardless of whether I shoot it for a second or 10 seconds, the first time it will not light up, it will not even sound, and the second time it will burn by touch. The problem occurs sporadically. What do you think ? Ignition cube? After connecting the computer there are no errors.
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  • #2 17026338
    piotrekwoj1
    Level 42  
    arrrturek wrote:
    Ignition cube?
    If the ignition turns on and the starter is spinning, it's definitely not a cube. You have to look for what is missing, but if you say it is occasionally going to be hard.
  • #3 17029157
    arrrturek
    Level 11  
    The problem is getting worse every day so it starts. I've run out of ideas, I don't know what the reason could be
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  • #4 17030981
    karol4444
    Level 12  
    Have you changed your battery over the years?
    Or else, has it ever been discharged to such a level that it could not start?
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  • #5 17031228
    piotrekwoj1
    Level 42  
    karol4444 wrote:
    Have you changed your battery over the years?
    Or else, has it ever been discharged to such a level that it could not start?

    And what does that have to do with the starter spinning?
    You need to check what is not getting voltage the first time, e.g. if the injectors are activated and if there is a spark.
    Check if it is enough to turn on the ignition twice or do you have to turn it off after the first?

    Moderated By robokop:

    Warning. 3.1.11. Don't post messages that add nothing to the discussion. They are misleading, dangerous or do not solve the user's problem.
    A colleague has already read on his own on the Internet, why the spark is not there and never has been.

  • #6 17031548
    karol4444
    Level 12  
    It is important because in case of frequent discharge and overload of the battery, it can damage the computer controlling the engine, incorrectly set the controller etc. = topic found in the vw group
    Moderated By robokop:

    Warning - 3.1.11. Don't post messages that add nothing to the discussion. They are misleading, dangerous or do not solve the user's problem.
    As above, please also read on - how this engine differs from others.

  • #7 17031589
    piotrekwoj1
    Level 42  
    Therefore, he must check what I wrote earlier.
  • #8 17031676
    misiekpb
    Level 22  
    And there's no pump in the tank there? Maybe it doesn't get electricity the first time.
  • #9 17033378
    arrrturek
    Level 11  
    The pump is checked. Tomorrow I will see if there is electricity for the first time
  • #10 17033763
    fructon
    Level 33  
    I had such a symptom, the replacement of the camshaft sensor helped, the old one did not generate any errors, and yet the replacement helped, but in your case it is a good clue, I do not know.
  • #11 17033822
    arrrturek
    Level 11  
    Today I noticed that if I turn on the ignition a few times, it will start. I recently bought the car and the first week burned immediately, only after a week the problems started and the battery is Ok because it spins like crazy and I have never discharged to zero.
  • #12 17033948
    piotrekwoj1
    Level 42  
    arrrturek wrote:
    Today I noticed that if I turn on the ignition a few times, it will start. I recently bought the car and the first week burned immediately, only after a week the problems started and the battery is Ok because it spins like crazy and I have never discharged to zero.

    Now you need to locate where the power is missing.
  • #13 17036463
    arrrturek
    Level 11  
    Colleagues, there were two errors in the engine controller, today I was on the computer. The first is: 17978 Electronic control module engine operation blocked - discontinuous. Second error: 16618 Boost Pressure Adjustment; the end of the control range has been reached.
  • #14 17036574
    piotrekwoj1
    Level 42  
    Well, you know why it does not start.
  • #15 17036758
    arrrturek
    Level 11  
    So what am I supposed to do with it now, buddy? What is this error related to?
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    #16 17036793
    piotrekwoj1
    Level 42  
    The controller is blocked when the immobilizer does not work properly, i.e. it does not recognize the key, or there is damage somewhere (immo loop, key, ECU), there are various options. I don't think you can get it yourself. The computer is the basis for this vulnerability.
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  • #17 17036922
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Nonsense, give this immobilizer a break. Somewhere the fuel is dropping either because of a leak or because the pump is worn out. After turning the key several times, the pump in the tank tops up enough fuel and that's it.
  • #18 17037021
    arrrturek
    Level 11  
    Just when he was checking for errors, there was no immo, there was no error, only in the engine. Replace this pump, there is no leakage anywhere, everything is dry. And the pump can be heard every time you turn the key.
  • #19 17052893
    arrrturek
    Level 11  
    Problem solved gentlemen. I replaced the pump in the tank but it did not solve the problem, the car continued to fire some time until I was looking at a forum and there was talk about relay 458 in the engine compartment and decided to look at it. I cleaned the contacts in it and the car stopped starting at all, I replaced it with a new one and the problem disappeared. It fires every time you "touch" it. I consider the topic closed. best regards

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a 2005 Skoda Octavia 2 TDI (2.0, BKD) experiencing intermittent starting issues, where the vehicle only starts on the second attempt without any error codes present. Initial suggestions included checking the battery, fuel pump, and ignition system. As the problem worsened, the owner discovered two error codes related to the engine control module and boost pressure adjustment. A key point raised was the potential immobilizer issue affecting the engine controller. Ultimately, the problem was resolved by replacing relay 458 in the engine compartment, which had faulty contacts, leading to consistent starting performance thereafter.
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