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Kanlux CE-81PX: Connecting Halogen Lamp with Motion Sensor and Two-Stage Switch

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  • #1 17046178
    p4w3llo
    Level 7  
    Hello,

    I would like to connect a halogen with a motion sensor and a two-stage switch so that it works as follows:
    1) The lamp is lit continuously by switching on the first button on the switch.
    2) The lamp does not light at all (both buttons on the switch are off).
    3) The lamp is on for a specified time when the sensor detects movement - this mode is turned on by pressing the second button on the switch.

    Do you have an idea how to connect it? It looks like this:
    - lamp: white, black, yellow-green wire,
    - motion detector: the black wire enters on one side, two brown wires come out and the blue one on the other.

    Thank you in advance for your answer,
    best regards!

    Kanlux CE-81PX: Connecting Halogen Lamp with Motion Sensor and Two-Stage Switch Kanlux CE-81PX: Connecting Halogen Lamp with Motion Sensor and Two-Stage Switch Kanlux CE-81PX: Connecting Halogen Lamp with Motion Sensor and Two-Stage Switch
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  • #2 17046235
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    p4w3llo wrote:
    motion detector: the black wire enters on one side, two brown wires come out and the blue one on the other.

    Rather, the brown and blue are the detector input / power supply.
    Black is the output / control of the receiver / lamp.
    ad1. From the detector power supply, the "L" wire to the switch and then to the lamp.
    ad2. You connect the "L" detector power supply through the second switch, cutting off the power to the detector and the lamp.
    ad3. The first switch is disconnected, the second is closed, the detector is working.
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  • #3 17046242
    jakubek56
    Level 32  
    The first switch would apply power directly to the bulb, and the second, through a sensor, to the bulb.
  • #4 17046278
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    jakubek56 wrote:
    The first switch would apply power directly to the bulb, and the second, through a sensor, to the bulb.

    Not exactly as you write.
    Provisional drawing. Kanlux CE-81PX: Connecting Halogen Lamp with Motion Sensor and Two-Stage Switch
  • #5 17046289
    jakubek56
    Level 32  
    The switch power supply cannot be connected by the switch that enables the lamp operation by the sensor.
  • #6 17046291
    p4w3llo
    Level 7  
    Hmm, excuse me but I'm not very smart about these things, could someone show me this on this makeshift diagram?






    Kanlux CE-81PX: Connecting Halogen Lamp with Motion Sensor and Two-Stage Switch
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  • #7 17046308
    yanes
    Level 33  
    Currently, sensors have a manual control function, where the lamp can be turned on for a long time. This mode can be activated by the "ON / OFF / ON / OFF" switch of the light switch within 3 seconds. The lamp will turn on permanently even though no movement has been detected.
  • #8 17046324
    p4w3llo
    Level 7  
    Unfortunately, this lamp is a bit old and does not have such a function; (
  • #9 17046345
    yanes
    Level 33  
    But you can invest in a new detector for PLN 20 because you will have to buy switches anyway.
  • #10 17046515
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    How are the wires connected in the motion sensor :?:
  • #11 17046599
    p4w3llo
    Level 7  
    mawerix123 wrote:
    How are the wires connected in the motion sensor :?:


    In order for the lamp to work with a motion sensor, it must be connected as follows:


    Kanlux CE-81PX: Connecting Halogen Lamp with Motion Sensor and Two-Stage Switch
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    #12 17046608
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    p4w3llo wrote:
    In order for the lamp to work with the motion sensor it must be connected as follows


    Oh

    So that it works as you intend in the double staircase

    p4w3llo wrote:
    1) The lamp is lit continuously by switching on the first button on the switch.
    2) The lamp does not light at all (both buttons on the switch are off).
    3) The lamp is on for a specified time when the sensor detects movement - this mode is turned on by pressing the second button on the switch.


    It can be combined like this

    Kanlux CE-81PX: Connecting Halogen Lamp with Motion Sensor and Two-Stage Switch
  • #13 17046806
    p4w3llo
    Level 7  
    Thank you very much!
    I also have a question: what will happen when both keys are on with this connection? Will it cause some failure?
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  • #14 17046837
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    p4w3llo wrote:
    I also have a question: what will happen when both keys are on with this connection? Will it cause some failure?


    It is just that the lamp will be on constantly, no failure will occur.
  • #15 17046986
    p4w3llo
    Level 7  
    Thank you for your help :)
  • #16 17216399
    Memciu
    Level 11  
    Hello.
    I have a similar case, and I don't want to clutter the forum unnecessarily.
    Kanlux LED halogen with detector.
    Single switch.
    Cable from a 2x 1.5 switch (no possibility to change to another one because I would have to forge the plaster outside the house)
    Power supply directly to the lamp.
    I want to connect so that it works with a motion sensor in the normal mode, when I need it I turn it on permanently.
    Then I connect between the cable going to the lighting and N? Up to L1?
    Or maybe for power cables by the motion detector, e.g.
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Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around connecting a Kanlux CE-81PX halogen lamp with a motion sensor and a two-stage switch. The user seeks to achieve three operational modes: continuous lighting via the first switch, no lighting when both switches are off, and motion-activated lighting for a specified duration via the second switch. Participants clarify the wiring connections, indicating that the brown and blue wires are for power supply to the motion detector, while the black wire controls the lamp. Suggestions include using a manual control function for newer sensors, but the user notes their lamp is older and lacks this feature. Diagrams are shared to illustrate the connections, and it is confirmed that having both switches on will not cause any failure, but will keep the lamp continuously lit.
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TL;DR: 20 PLN can add manual override—“invest in a new detector”—and this guide shows wiring for auto, off, and always‑on. [Elektroda, yanes, post #17046345]

Why it matters: It helps DIYers wire a Kanlux CE‑81PX or similar lamp with a PIR and two‑gang switch for flexible control.

Quick Facts

How do I wire a PIR sensor and two‑gang switch for Auto/Off/Always‑On?

Use a two‑gang arrangement. 1) Feed N to both lamp and sensor; feed L to both switches. 2) Key 1: send L directly to lamp L for permanent on. 3) Key 2: send L to the sensor L; sensor output (black) goes to lamp L for Auto. Turn both keys off for Off. [Elektroda, mawerix123, post #17046608]

Which wire on the sensor is the output to the lamp?

Black is the switched output from the detector to the lamp. Brown and blue are the detector’s power input. As one expert said: “brown and blue are the detector input/power; black is the output.” [Elektroda, kokapetyl, post #17046235]

What happens if both switch keys are ON at the same time?

The lamp stays on continuously. No failure or damage occurs. As confirmed in the thread: “It is just that the lamp will be on constantly.” [Elektroda, mawerix123, post #17046837]

How can I turn everything completely off?

Open both keys so neither the lamp nor the detector receives L. In the shown scheme, cutting L to the detector also disables sensor control and keeps the lamp off. [Elektroda, kokapetyl, post #17046235]

Can a single‑gang switch give me a permanent‑on override?

Yes—use a PIR with built‑in manual override. Many models latch permanent light via quick ON/OFF/ON toggling within about three seconds. That lets one switch select Auto or Always‑On. [Elektroda, yanes, post #17046308]

My sensor lacks manual override—what’s the simplest fix and cost?

Replace the detector with a model that supports manual override. Budget units are around 20 PLN, and you need a switch anyway. [Elektroda, yanes, post #17046345]

I only have a single switch with a 2×1.5 cable—how do I add manual bypass?

Wire the switch to bridge permanent L to the lamp’s L downstream of the sensor (parallel to the sensor output). With switch ON, lamp is fed directly; with it OFF, sensor controls. Do not switch N. [Elektroda, jakubek56, post #17046242]

Should I switch the line (L) or the neutral (N) in these setups?

Switch the line (L). Feed L through the switch to the lamp for manual on, and feed L through another switch to power the detector for Auto. Neutral remains common. [Elektroda, kokapetyl, post #17046235]

What mistakes should I avoid when combining sensor and manual switching?

Do not route the detector’s power through the same switch that enables sensor‑controlled lamp operation. Keep the manual bypass and detector supply paths correctly separated. [Elektroda, jakubek56, post #17046289]

How do I wire basic motion‑only mode between the sensor and lamp?

Provide N to both the lamp and the sensor. Feed L to the sensor input (brown). Connect the sensor output (black) to the lamp L. The sensor’s blue goes to N. [Elektroda, p4w3llo, post #17046599]

Is it worth replacing a halogen floodlight with LED while rewiring?

Yes. LEDs use at least 75% less energy and can last 25× longer than incandescents. A Kanlux LED flood with a PIR will cut power use and maintenance. [DOE, 2023]

Does this scheme apply to Kanlux CE‑81PX and similar fixtures?

Yes. The logic is brand‑agnostic: supply L/N to the PIR, and route the PIR’s switched output to the lamp L. Colors often match brown/blue/black as described. [Elektroda, kokapetyl, post #17046235]
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