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KIA Ceed 1.6 CRDi 90 KM: Engine Starting Issues in Low Temperatures Below -10°

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  • #1 17066235
    artur75
    Level 12  
    Hello,

    I have a problem with starting the 1.6 CRDi 90 HP engine in a KIA CEED car. At temperatures around 0 ° the engine fired the first time but you could hear some knocks for a moment. After a while, the engine was running evenly and quietly. At positive temperatures, the engine starts without reservations.

    Now at temperatures below -10 ° I have a problem with firing. This morning at -13 degrees I had to shoot several times before firing. Link to the movies from today's firing I will mix below:

    https://vimeo.com/257550947

    Is this normal for this engine at such temperatures? Over the past few years I have had a different diesel car and only once did not start after a few days in the cold but then the battery did not have the strength to spin the starter. Now his wife rides it and starts her without a problem and in Kia the starter turns, but the engine starts only in 4-5 together. I would add that fuel is always refueled at one Orlen station (VERVA).

    What could be the reason?
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  • #2 17066409
    ftp.kowal
    Level 36  
    What is your pressure on the bar during filming? Are all candles OK?
  • #3 17066434
    airwolff
    Level 13  
    I would start by checking the glow plugs to see if they are functional. Very simply it can be checked without unscrewing the meter.
  • #4 17067120
    artur75
    Level 12  
    I will try to check these candles. I hope it's nothing more serious. Today at -17 ° did not fire at all. After about 5-6 attempts I gave up. At the last attempt, the starter turned slightly less.
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  • #5 17067312
    airwolff
    Level 13  
    Also consider the paraffin precipitation from ON, add some deprsator / anti-gel to ON. If you have the opportunity, put the car in the garage and see how it fires.
  • #6 17067355
    k124l
    Level 20  
    Check whether there is no air in the fuel system, I have such a fault in 1.5 dci like there are no fuel leaks anywhere and the air somehow gets into the system.
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  • #7 17067372
    airwolff
    Level 13  
    If it were air, if it is warm, it would not ignite and here the obvious problem is when it cools down. As for your fault, bend the fuel lines, maybe you will find delicate cracks somewhere.
  • #8 17067655
    k124l
    Level 20  
    I have a fault does not occur on a warm engine when it is warm it burns from an arrow only after a night it has problems and you need to pump it with this pear.
  • #9 17068420
    artur75
    Level 12  
    Today after work, I tried to fire again at -11 ° and managed quite smoothly. At the beginning there was a knocking and uneven work but after a while it normalized. We'll see how it will be tomorrow morning ...
  • #10 17068867
    airwolff
    Level 13  
    If it works unevenly on a cold one, be sure to check the glow plugs.
  • #11 17070541
    Horrific
    Level 11  
    I have 100% the same as you do when you try to fire it, you came to what is wrong?
  • #12 17072055
    artur75
    Level 12  
    Unfortunately not yet. When I come back from work, after a whole day the car lights up in the cold from -10 to -13. Of course, not the first time but when I spin 2-3 times it lights up. He works unevenly for a moment, knocks something on the engine and after 2-3 seconds works normally. Then I always go a few kilometers but still in the morning after a whole night of stopping and more frost do not want to smoke. Today I will try to get to some mechanic.

    Sometimes it is also the case that the engine lights up for a split second and immediately goes out. I do not know if this is not caused by the fact that the low beam switches on automatically. What do you think about it
  • #13 17072325
    airwolff
    Level 13  
    The lights have nothing to do with this.
  • #14 17073361
    Horrific
    Level 11  
    I gave the car to a mechanic yesterday, probably candles, I should have a car tomorrow, so let me know what happened.
  • #15 17076952
    artur75
    Level 12  
    Horrific, and how did you fix your car?
  • #16 17076965
    Horrific
    Level 11  
    Yes, it turned out that the candles fell, I do not know how many, I ordered to change all, today it was -18 C and fired immediately.

    Added after 7 [minutes]:

    And I will add that after connecting to the computer did not show any error with the candles had to be measured manually
  • #17 17077243
    artur75
    Level 12  
    Thank you for the information. I give the car to the mechanic at the beginning of next week. I'll let you know how to pick them up.
  • #18 17091464
    artur75
    Level 12  
    On Tuesday I picked up the car from the mechanic. I also had glow plugs. Now I have a new one but there is no frost so I will check how the car will start next winter :) Unless the weather still surprises us ...
  • #19 19086797
    Grzybek1983
    Level 1  
    Hi, I have an identical problem, only that my kia gives off a cloud of unburned oil after firing. Candles replaced, battery new, new starter, no errors, no oil and coolant swallows, new fuel filter. The mechanics break down the hands.
  • #20 19086868
    swierszcz.uk
    Level 12  
    Installation and driver of the glow plugs to be checked, because the candles are functional does not mean that they heat if the driver or installation is damaged. You can easily remove the plug from the test tube behind the oil filler plug from the glow plug installation, if the installation is operational, then you will have voltage on the meter or test tube
  • #21 19087858
    4495redberet
    Level 28  
    Something struck me that in these engines there was a problem with the glow plug strip, specifically with the cable that comes to it.
    People exchange it for new ones and the problem disappears.
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  • #22 20330227
    multivac535
    Level 8  
    Hello and welcome
    I have a similar problem, but it's a bit different. I don't want to start another topic, so I'll hijack. Namely, there is also a problem with starting after the night when it's cold, the car when it starts can go out again after 20-30 seconds. The longer it sits (even in the garage), I have a problem with starting. I noticed that when I press the mushroom on the fuel filter, the car starts. Could it be that it's losing pressure and getting air? I live in Sweden and here you can give your car for such diagnostics, you can go a lot financially. I will add Kia Ceed 1.6 CRDI 128 HP (engine code D4FB)
    Thank you in advance
  • #23 20411626
    Qubutek
    Level 1  
    multivac535 wrote:
    Hello and welcome
    I have a similar problem, but it's a bit different. I don't want to start another topic, so I'll hijack. Namely, there is also a problem with starting after the night when it's cold, the car when it starts can go out again after 20-30 seconds. The longer it sits (even in the garage), I have a problem with starting. I noticed that when I press the mushroom on the fuel filter, the car starts. Could it be that it's losing pressure and getting air? I live in Sweden and here you can give your car for such diagnostics, you can go a lot financially. I will add Kia Ceed 1.6 CRDI 128 HP (engine code D4FB)
    Thanks in advance


    Hi, I have a similar problem (1.6 CRDi 116 HP),
    the colder it is, the worse it starts and the spark plugs are new.

    Did you manage to fix the problem?
  • #24 20411660
    multivac535
    Level 8  
    Qubutek wrote:
    multivac535 wrote:
    Hello and welcome
    I have a similar problem, but it's a bit different. I don't want to start another topic, so I'll hijack. Namely, there is also a problem with starting after the night when it's cold, the car when it starts can go out again after 20-30 seconds. The longer it sits (even in the garage), I have a problem with starting. I noticed that when I press the mushroom on the fuel filter, the car starts. Could it be that it's losing pressure and getting air? I live in Sweden and here you can give your car for such diagnostics, you can go a lot financially. I will add Kia Ceed 1.6 CRDI 128 HP (engine code D4FB)
    Thanks in advance


    Hi, I have a similar problem (1.6 CRDi 116 HP),
    the colder it is, the worse it starts and the spark plugs are new.

    Did you manage to fix the problem?


    Hello.
    Unfortunately not yet, I wanted to change the fuel filter, but just no time. My wife drives with me and the car is in the garage. It runs fine in the garage

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around starting issues with the KIA Ceed 1.6 CRDi 90 HP engine in low temperatures, particularly below -10°C. The user reports difficulty in starting the engine, which sometimes requires multiple attempts, and experiences knocking sounds upon initial firing. Various responses suggest checking the glow plugs, fuel system for air leaks, and the possibility of paraffin precipitation in the fuel. The user later confirms that replacing the glow plugs resolved the issue, allowing the engine to start smoothly even in extreme cold. Other users share similar experiences with different models of KIA Ceed, indicating a common problem related to cold starts and glow plug functionality.
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