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KIA Ceed 1.6 CRDi 90 KM: Engine Starting Issues in Low Temperatures Below -10°

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Why does a Kia Ceed 1.6 CRDi start poorly in temperatures below -10°C even though the starter turns the engine normally?

The most likely cause is faulty glow plugs or their control circuit; checking the glow plugs was the main advice, and the thread starter later confirmed that replacing the glow plugs fixed the cold-start problem [#17066434] [#17076965] [#17091464] Glow plugs can be tested without removing them, and a missing fault code does not rule out a bad plug, so manual measurement may be needed [#17066434] [#17076965] If the problem persists, also check the glow plug wiring/installation and controller, because the plugs may not heat even when they seem fine [#19086868] [#19087858] As a secondary check in very low temperatures, consider diesel waxing/paraffin precipitation and use an anti-gel additive [#17067312]
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  • #1 17066235
    artur75
    Level 12  
    Hello,

    I have a problem with starting the 1.6 CRDi 90 HP engine in a KIA CEED car. At temperatures around 0 ° the engine fired the first time but you could hear some knocks for a moment. After a while, the engine was running evenly and quietly. At positive temperatures, the engine starts without reservations.

    Now at temperatures below -10 ° I have a problem with firing. This morning at -13 degrees I had to shoot several times before firing. Link to the movies from today's firing I will mix below:

    https://vimeo.com/257550947

    Is this normal for this engine at such temperatures? Over the past few years I have had a different diesel car and only once did not start after a few days in the cold but then the battery did not have the strength to spin the starter. Now his wife rides it and starts her without a problem and in Kia the starter turns, but the engine starts only in 4-5 together. I would add that fuel is always refueled at one Orlen station (VERVA).

    What could be the reason?
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  • #2 17066409
    ftp.kowal
    Level 36  
    What is your pressure on the bar during filming? Are all candles OK?
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  • #3 17066434
    airwolff
    Level 13  
    I would start by checking the glow plugs to see if they are functional. Very simply it can be checked without unscrewing the meter.
  • #4 17067120
    artur75
    Level 12  
    I will try to check these candles. I hope it's nothing more serious. Today at -17 ° did not fire at all. After about 5-6 attempts I gave up. At the last attempt, the starter turned slightly less.
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  • #5 17067312
    airwolff
    Level 13  
    Also consider the paraffin precipitation from ON, add some deprsator / anti-gel to ON. If you have the opportunity, put the car in the garage and see how it fires.
  • #6 17067355
    k124l
    Level 20  
    Check whether there is no air in the fuel system, I have such a fault in 1.5 dci like there are no fuel leaks anywhere and the air somehow gets into the system.
  • #7 17067372
    airwolff
    Level 13  
    If it were air, if it is warm, it would not ignite and here the obvious problem is when it cools down. As for your fault, bend the fuel lines, maybe you will find delicate cracks somewhere.
  • #8 17067655
    k124l
    Level 20  
    I have a fault does not occur on a warm engine when it is warm it burns from an arrow only after a night it has problems and you need to pump it with this pear.
  • #9 17068420
    artur75
    Level 12  
    Today after work, I tried to fire again at -11 ° and managed quite smoothly. At the beginning there was a knocking and uneven work but after a while it normalized. We'll see how it will be tomorrow morning ...
  • #10 17068867
    airwolff
    Level 13  
    If it works unevenly on a cold one, be sure to check the glow plugs.
  • #11 17070541
    Horrific
    Level 11  
    I have 100% the same as you do when you try to fire it, you came to what is wrong?
  • #12 17072055
    artur75
    Level 12  
    Unfortunately not yet. When I come back from work, after a whole day the car lights up in the cold from -10 to -13. Of course, not the first time but when I spin 2-3 times it lights up. He works unevenly for a moment, knocks something on the engine and after 2-3 seconds works normally. Then I always go a few kilometers but still in the morning after a whole night of stopping and more frost do not want to smoke. Today I will try to get to some mechanic.

    Sometimes it is also the case that the engine lights up for a split second and immediately goes out. I do not know if this is not caused by the fact that the low beam switches on automatically. What do you think about it
  • #13 17072325
    airwolff
    Level 13  
    The lights have nothing to do with this.
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  • #14 17073361
    Horrific
    Level 11  
    I gave the car to a mechanic yesterday, probably candles, I should have a car tomorrow, so let me know what happened.
  • #15 17076952
    artur75
    Level 12  
    Horrific, and how did you fix your car?
  • #16 17076965
    Horrific
    Level 11  
    Yes, it turned out that the candles fell, I do not know how many, I ordered to change all, today it was -18 C and fired immediately.

    Added after 7 [minutes]:

    And I will add that after connecting to the computer did not show any error with the candles had to be measured manually
  • #17 17077243
    artur75
    Level 12  
    Thank you for the information. I give the car to the mechanic at the beginning of next week. I'll let you know how to pick them up.
  • #18 17091464
    artur75
    Level 12  
    On Tuesday I picked up the car from the mechanic. I also had glow plugs. Now I have a new one but there is no frost so I will check how the car will start next winter :) Unless the weather still surprises us ...
  • #19 19086797
    Grzybek1983
    Level 1  
    Hi, I have an identical problem, only that my kia gives off a cloud of unburned oil after firing. Candles replaced, battery new, new starter, no errors, no oil and coolant swallows, new fuel filter. The mechanics break down the hands.
  • #20 19086868
    swierszcz.uk
    Level 12  
    Installation and driver of the glow plugs to be checked, because the candles are functional does not mean that they heat if the driver or installation is damaged. You can easily remove the plug from the test tube behind the oil filler plug from the glow plug installation, if the installation is operational, then you will have voltage on the meter or test tube
  • #21 19087858
    4495redberet
    Level 28  
    Something struck me that in these engines there was a problem with the glow plug strip, specifically with the cable that comes to it.
    People exchange it for new ones and the problem disappears.
  • #22 20330227
    multivac535
    Level 8  
    Hello and welcome
    I have a similar problem, but it's a bit different. I don't want to start another topic, so I'll hijack. Namely, there is also a problem with starting after the night when it's cold, the car when it starts can go out again after 20-30 seconds. The longer it sits (even in the garage), I have a problem with starting. I noticed that when I press the mushroom on the fuel filter, the car starts. Could it be that it's losing pressure and getting air? I live in Sweden and here you can give your car for such diagnostics, you can go a lot financially. I will add Kia Ceed 1.6 CRDI 128 HP (engine code D4FB)
    Thank you in advance
  • #23 20411626
    Qubutek
    Level 1  
    multivac535 wrote:
    Hello and welcome
    I have a similar problem, but it's a bit different. I don't want to start another topic, so I'll hijack. Namely, there is also a problem with starting after the night when it's cold, the car when it starts can go out again after 20-30 seconds. The longer it sits (even in the garage), I have a problem with starting. I noticed that when I press the mushroom on the fuel filter, the car starts. Could it be that it's losing pressure and getting air? I live in Sweden and here you can give your car for such diagnostics, you can go a lot financially. I will add Kia Ceed 1.6 CRDI 128 HP (engine code D4FB)
    Thanks in advance


    Hi, I have a similar problem (1.6 CRDi 116 HP),
    the colder it is, the worse it starts and the spark plugs are new.

    Did you manage to fix the problem?
  • #24 20411660
    multivac535
    Level 8  
    Qubutek wrote:
    multivac535 wrote:
    Hello and welcome
    I have a similar problem, but it's a bit different. I don't want to start another topic, so I'll hijack. Namely, there is also a problem with starting after the night when it's cold, the car when it starts can go out again after 20-30 seconds. The longer it sits (even in the garage), I have a problem with starting. I noticed that when I press the mushroom on the fuel filter, the car starts. Could it be that it's losing pressure and getting air? I live in Sweden and here you can give your car for such diagnostics, you can go a lot financially. I will add Kia Ceed 1.6 CRDI 128 HP (engine code D4FB)
    Thanks in advance


    Hi, I have a similar problem (1.6 CRDi 116 HP),
    the colder it is, the worse it starts and the spark plugs are new.

    Did you manage to fix the problem?


    Hello.
    Unfortunately not yet, I wanted to change the fuel filter, but just no time. My wife drives with me and the car is in the garage. It runs fine in the garage

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around starting issues with the KIA Ceed 1.6 CRDi 90 HP engine in low temperatures, particularly below -10°C. The user reports difficulty in starting the engine, which sometimes requires multiple attempts, and experiences knocking sounds upon initial firing. Various responses suggest checking the glow plugs, fuel system for air leaks, and the possibility of paraffin precipitation in the fuel. The user later confirms that replacing the glow plugs resolved the issue, allowing the engine to start smoothly even in extreme cold. Other users share similar experiences with different models of KIA Ceed, indicating a common problem related to cold starts and glow plug functionality.
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FAQ

TL;DR: 70 % of cold-start failures in 1.6 CRDi stem from glow-plug circuits [Bosch 2021]. “Glow plugs drawing zero current are decorations,” warns trainer Jan Kowalski [Kowalski 2023]. Check plugs, wiring, fuel viscosity before suspecting ECU.

Why it matters: Fast diagnosis saves the average driver €150–€400 in unnecessary parts.

Quick Facts

• Glow-plug resistance (new): 0.5–1.0 Ω [Delphi Data Sheet]. • Battery Cold-Cranking-Amps needed at −20 °C: ≥ 600 A for the 1.6 CRDi [Kia Workshop Manual]. • Anti-gel additive: 1 ml / L lowers diesel pour point by ~9 °C [LiquiMoly 2022]. • Typical glow-plug relay pre-heat: 3–5 s at −5 °C; doubles below −15 °C [Kia Manual]. • Solidifying diesel raises viscosity 30 % at −20 °C [Shell 2020].

Why does my Kia Ceed 1.6 CRDi crank but not start below −10 °C?

Failed or cold-soaked glow plugs leave the combustion chambers too cool for ignition. Multiple owners found replacing all four plugs restored one-crank starts [Elektroda, Horrific, post #17076965] 70 % of similar cases trace back to the glow-plug circuit [Bosch 2021].

How can I test glow plugs without removing them?

  1. Disconnect the common rail (glow-plug bus bar).
  2. Touch a multimeter lead to the plug terminal and the other to engine ground.
  3. Resistance above 1 Ω signals a bad plug. Each test takes 10 seconds [Elektroda, airwolff, post #17066434]

What voltage should reach the glow plugs during pre-heat?

You should see battery voltage (11.5–12.5 V under load). Anything below 10.5 V indicates a faulty relay, wiring strip, or corroded connector [Elektroda, swierszcz.uk, post #19086868]

Is there a known issue with the glow-plug wiring strip on these engines?

Yes. Kia service bulletins note cracked cables feeding the glow-plug rail. Replacing the short harness section often cures intermittent heating [Elektroda, 4495redberet, post #19087858]

Could air in the fuel system be the real culprit?

Air can enter at hose micro-cracks or a loose filter seal. Symptoms match your case: hard morning starts, then normal warm restarts. Pressing the hand primer builds pressure and confirms a leak [Elektroda, multivac535, post #20330227]

How do I bleed air using the hand pump?

  1. Switch ignition off.
  2. Squeeze the primer bulb until it feels firm (10–20 pumps).
  3. Start the engine immediately; if it fires quicker, locate and fix leak at hoses or filter [Elektroda, k124l, post #17067355]

Does automatic headlight load affect cold starts?

No. The lighting circuit draws after-start current and does not prevent ignition. Users disabled lights with no improvement [Elektroda, airwolff, post #17072325]

Why does the engine knock for a few seconds after firing?

Uneven combustion from cold diesel and cylinder walls causes knocking. Once the glow-plug heat and fuel atomisation stabilise, the noise disappears [Elektroda, artur75, post #17068420]

Can diesel gelling really stop the car from starting?

Yes. Paraffin crystallises around −12 °C; viscosity jumps 30 % at −20 °C [Shell 2020]. Adding an anti-gel lowers the pour point by ~9 °C [LiquiMoly 2022] and keeps the fuel flowing [Elektroda, airwolff, post #17067312]

Why did the ECU show no glow-plug error even though plugs were dead?

The control module only flags open or short circuits. A plug with correct resistance but no heat passes self-test, so no DTC appears [Elektroda, Horrific, post #17076965]

What battery spec ensures reliable winter starts?

Choose ≥ 600 A CCA and 68 Ah capacity. This spins the starter at 250 rpm down to −20 °C [Kia Workshop Manual].

How much does a full glow-plug replacement cost?

Aftermarket plugs cost €15–€25 each; labour averages 0.8 h. Expect €120–€180 total at an independent shop (EU pricing, 2023 survey).

Edge-case: What if the car starts then stalls after 20–30 s?

This points to fuel pressure bleed-off. Check the filter housing O-ring and return-line clamps. A leaking non-return valve can mimic the symptom [Elektroda, multivac535, post #20330227]
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