Choosing Between SATEL and JABLOTRON 100 for a 150m2 House with Easy Expansion

kood wrote:

Are these ideas given to you by the company that will install the alarm, or did you come up with them yourself? Because if it`s the former, change the company.

Sam... I understand it`s a bad idea, but why?
Like I said, I`m green and I don`t know what I`m saying wrong.

Will the reed switch let you know when someone opens the window? What if someone breaks them and comes in??

Yeah.
I thought Friday wouldn`t come. And he would have to go out into this corridor. But I understand that this is wrong thinking.

The whole point of the game is to detect the intruder as quickly as possible.

If you want something that will be physically connected to the window, you have something like this:
http://www.satel.pl/pl/product/575/MAGENTA,Cyfrowa-czujka-zbija-szyby
The only question is how much you want to mess around and how big your budget is. With such combinations it ends quickly...

siewcu wrote:

Jablotron, for example, has unusual batteries in all its equipment, so if it needs to be replaced, you will have to rely on them.

My opinion - I would do what my friend did in a similar house The Satel Integra 128 WRL control panel was chosen. The assumption was a standard alarm (in this case 6 sensors, all wired - laying the cables was not a problem), roller blinds control from the application level (connected through some module, I don`t know exactly which one) and finally, LED lighting control, also from the application level. application. In addition, three zones - ground floor, first floor and garage, and disarming the latter with a button from the remote control when opening the gate. Two wired keypads - ground floor and first floor. In addition, there is a wireless system in the control panel and it is a reliable system with the possibility of expansion.

And one more thing. What is the advantage of programming everything yourself? I consider this a very big disadvantage - such things should be configured by an experienced person who knows how it works, not the user. I will tell you that I saw the configuration of the mentioned Integra. And when it seemed to me that I could handle it without any major problems, I realized that I was right - it seemed to me.

These unusual Jablotron batteries are, of course, R6, i.e. AA batteries
As for the next information, you can also do all these things on the Jablotron, as for the prices, we can buy the Jablotron JA-106KR at the same price as the Satela 128WRL.
The JA-106KR has 120 wired (bus) or wireless devices, 300 users, 15 zones, 32 outputs, system control via SMS, voice messages, applications.
I absolutely agree with the last piece of information. The system should be installed (at least programmed) by an installer after training.

Do you recommend Jablotron?

MasaMasowski wrote:

Do you recommend Jablotron?

I worked in one large company as an installer. I learned at Satel, I was the first to figure it out at CA64, the beginnings were hard. Programming was done only from a PC. I thought there was no better alarm, we also installed others, DSC or Aritech. But after I got to know Jablotron and the company`s attitude towards the customer and installer and their solutions, I changed my mind.

Yes, I recommend Jablotron, especially the JA-100 series.

Yes, it has one major drawback - the number of outputs (32) in relation to the possibilities. Jablotron gives a 3-year warranty, which can be extended to 5 years with regular maintenance. They will replace damaged devices with new ones without unnecessary hassle (I waited 12 months for a satellite keyboard at the service center)
If I can help with anything, I will.

Hello, if you want to have an on/off and forget-it system, for example with a remote control and without sprinklers, it is a simple satellite and yes, there is a cable for each detector, so you can use 6 or 8 0.5 wires, then you have either 4 or 6 sensors on one cable in the 2EOL system and monitoring you will give the company the satellite as above.
If you want to control your own system and control roller blinds, etc., the new Jablotron is designed for this purpose, and there is also a LAN Internet port on the board and a place for a GSM card, so you can monitor and control via the Internet and/or telephone, the batteries are only in the wireless keyboard and you can do everything via cable, plus control with a remote control from the same manufacturer, so one remote control for the alarm/roller shutters/garage gate/entrance gate/gate. In addition, you have temperature sensors, PIR sensors with a camera sending a photo when an intruder is detected and a whole lot of other solutions and everything from one manufacturer, even a SIM card you can get from Jablotron, apart from that, a great service and installers only from their reference list, so you won`t be left alone with the problem when the installer will go to Australia or win the lottery. Decide for yourself, good luck.

These are arguments without arguments... You write about what Satel has, but as if it was only in Jablotron. And talking about the advantage of installers only from the manufacturer`s list is nonsense, if you need something yesterday, you can pray that one of them is available and not just call the company to see if they have time.

I`m curious about this, because the 128 WRL also has integrated GSM, ethernet, and remote control. You can control blinds and other things in the same way and it works out so much that you probably get some bonuses for advertising Jablotron.

siewcu wrote:

These are arguments without arguments... You write about what Satel has, but as if it was only in Jablotron. And talking about the advantage of installers only from the manufacturer`s list is nonsense, if you need something yesterday, you can pray that one of them will be available and not just call the company to see if they have time.

I`m curious because the 128 WRL also has integrated GSM, ethernet, and remote control. You can control blinds and other things in the same way and it works out so much that you probably get some bonuses for advertising Jablotron.

As for me, I don`t have any bonuses from Jablotron. As I wrote earlier, I have been burned so many times using Satel that I will not recommend it. Yes, it has nice solutions and possibilities, but the policy and execution have fallen. I won`t fly!!!

No, about the guy from the post above. Jablotron can do everything, and Satel (which has the same capabilities) can do nothing.

This list is not nonsense - it is in phase two n enia

certainly for such a house, satellites with a large supply of cabins, for windows, for technical rooms, etc.

If it is not possible to enter through a window on the first floor, for example from a roof, balcony or through a tree, one detector in the corridor on the first floor is enough and if you sleep upstairs and have a bathroom there and a keypad, then you secure the downstairs at night (unless at night you go to the fridge). Note: When it comes to PIR detectors, you need to think about the dog or cat in your home.

siewcu wrote:

Jablotron, for example, has unusual batteries in all its equipment, so if it needs to be replaced, you will have to rely on them.

Absolute nonsense, JABLOTRON 100 runs on regular AA sticks, of course wireless devices because wired ones are powered by the bus.

Someone wrote that you will create a system on one "loop", this is also not entirely true, the bus in JABLOTRON 100 does not close, which in my opinion is a plus. The central unit outputs max. 2 buses, depending on the control panel, and you connect further devices to it on a "tree" basis.
You can read about it here: https://ja100.pl/zainstall-alarm-szybciej-i-taniej-magistrala-bus-i-topologia-drzewa/
Apart from that, if you already have a wired system, there is no problem in connecting wireless devices to Jablotron.

I don`t know Satel, but I have JABLOTRON 100 at home. Generally, when it comes to ease of use, it is a very nice system.

tequilado13 wrote:

Apart from that, if you already have a wired system, there is no problem in connecting wireless devices to Jablotron.

Look, my friend at Satel has exactly the same possibility.

As for the topic in general... Some texts are embarrassing, mentioning functions that are supposedly available only in Jablotron but also available on satellite.

siewcu wrote:

tequilado13 wrote:

Apart from that, if you already have a wired system, there is no problem in connecting wireless devices to Jablotron.

Look, my friend at Satel has exactly the same possibility.

Some of the texts are embarrassing, mentioning functions that are supposedly available only in Jablotron but are also available on satellite.

Hmm, do you sometimes read posts to the end? Please go back above and read again. Reading comprehension doesn`t hurt.

Take the last sentence out of my post and you`ll have what applied directly to you. That`s better? I read what you wrote to the end, commented on your post and two lines below I wrote a general comment about the entire topic, not directly about your post.

siewcu wrote:

Take the last sentence out of my post and you`ll have what applied directly to you. That`s better? I read what you wrote to the end, commented on your post and two lines below I wrote a general comment about the entire topic, not directly about your post.

So it was necessary to write precisely that it was about the whole topic and not about my statement, no one reads between the lines. Pasting this sentence at the end of the statement makes it clear that it applies to the above-mentioned. entry in a very negative way.

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Edit: @siewcu Thank you for re-editing the post.

Thank you all again for your help. The choice fell on Jablotron.