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[Solved] Aisin AM6 (TF80sc) Gearbox Issue: Strong Jerks After Replacing Controller - Solenoid Advice

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How do I fix strong jerks when shifting to P or R after replacing the Aisin AM6 / TF80SC gearbox controller, and which solenoid should I check?

No single solenoid was identified in the thread; the main advice was to reset/delete the gearbox adaptations, then perform the adaptation procedure again after the controller change, using JWS 3309 oil [#17100761][#17102743][#19799262] One reply also said the oil consumption counter is not the oil itself and should be cleared as part of starting fresh adaptations [#19799262] If the gearbox still jerks or reverse engages harshly, the valve body/solenoids should be cleaned or replaced, and coil resistance should be checked [#21394401]
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  • #1 17100725
    Marek Sp
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    I have a problem with the Aisin AM6 (TF80sc) gearbox. After replacing the controller with an allegedly regenerated one, it tugs strongly when throwing P or R, which solenoid is responsible for this? Maybe someone knowledgeable about things will suggest?
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  • #2 17100761
    romuald-f
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    Have you adapted the gearbox?
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  • #3 17100790
    Marek Sp
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    Yes of course. New oil.
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  • #5 17103126
    Marek Sp
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    Thanks, can you tell me which parts of the driver are working on PND switching?
    I have a question about a lock-up, should a taxi driver lock himself when driving around the city? because I still have changes in engine speed when adding gas and taking off
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  • #6 19798191
    wojjtekk
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    Hello. Has the problem been resolved? I have exactly the same problem. I replaced the driver and poured it with new oil (3.5 L). The gearbox hits very hard when switching to R, sometimes it engages this gear with a delay. What do i need to do now? I have a diagbox, I wrote down the oil consumption counter. I don't know how to adapt. Should I do a pressure study or just adjust the meter?
  • #7 19799262
    Marek Sp
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    Not quite so, I managed to kick a new controller and it changes as much, the oil counter has nothing to do with the oil and this is some kind of correction, it's best to delete and start the adaptations and it will create itself in some time. In fact, no one writes how to do this adaptation, so much from the dzagboxa I read. And is this a new driver or a used one?
  • Adaptation procedure did not fix reverse jerk or lock-up issue

    #8 19799663
    wojjtekk
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    This is the driver being used. Now it really works badly. When throwing reverse R, the little engine with the box will not break out of the shed.

    I was doing the entire adaptation today. So in DB I chose the option (oil change in the box). The oil consumption counter was reset and "pressure science" was done according to the computer.
    Then driving according to the procedure:

    - we delete old adaptations with any available interface (maybe even Carsoft). You can find some on the net
    descriptions of deleting adaptations such as "turn the key, press the gas" but these are fairy tales. Theoretically, adaptations should happen
    delete after a very long power cut, but this is an uncertain method, and how to ensure the condition in such a system
    hot box ...?

    - we immediately start the adaptation process (driving even a few meters after canceling can disrupt our entire work)

    - lock the box on 1, move very slowly and gently press the gas until the above-mentioned revolutions are reached
    (or even a bit lower), let go of the gas and let the revs drop to about 1000-1200 (so that at higher gears the gear does not change to a lower one), then repeat the same thing 4 times

    - the last time after reaching the limit speed, manually switch the gearbox to 2 and repeat the procedure 4 times
    as for 1

    - we do the same for each subsequent run

    - after completing the procedure for 5, gently stop and let the engine work 10 minutes on P.

    When finished, we turn off the engine, fire it up and check that the quality of the shifting has improved. If not, the procedure
    repeat by reducing the maximum range described above by 100-200 turns.


    Unfortunately, no effect. He changes gears from D1-D6 quite well, but he still does not fasten the Lock-up to D. I watched him even in the DB and saw when he fastened and when he did not. In manual mode you can say it works as it should. From 2-6 he fastens and keeps turning, you can brake the engine. There is still a strong hit on the R, and it's only happening on the warm one.

    The other rudder. I think I also have a damaged ...

    On One, it pulls 2/3 and does not lock the Lock-up
    On the second (the one now installed) Wali when switching to R or dropping R on warm and does not lock the Lock-up

    Which valve is responsible for the Lock-up and which is responsible for reverse gear?

    Aisin AM6 (TF80sc) Gearbox Issue: Strong Jerks After Replacing Controller - Solenoid Advice Aisin AM6 (TF80sc) Gearbox Issue: Strong Jerks After Replacing Controller - Solenoid Advice
  • #9 21394401
    mikionline
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    AM6 hydraulic valve body diagram with pin descriptions.

    If gearbox jerks, clean all the valves or replace it.
    Or check coil resistency via my correct pic.
  • #10 21761052
    domo44
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    Has the problem been solved?
  • #11 21762077
    Marek Sp
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    replaced controller

Topic summary

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Discussion about an Aisin AM6 / TF80SC automatic gearbox that jerks strongly when shifting into P or R after replacing the transmission controller with a regenerated/used unit. The main troubleshooting points are gearbox adaptation reset, correct ATF type and level, and performing the adaptation procedure in diagnostic software. One reply suggests checking or cleaning all valves/solenoids and measuring coil resistance. The author confirms the controller was replaced and mentions ongoing harsh engagement and RPM fluctuations, with adaptation attempts done via Diagbox and oil counter reset.
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