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Orion 32LBT731 TV: No Picture, Backlight & Audio - VES315WNVS-01-B, 17MB82S, 17IPS19-5 Issue

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  • #1 17161762
    gregor22
    Level 23  
    Hello!
    On the TV, the backlight and the voice turn on, but there is no picture. VES315WNVS-01-B matrix, 17MB82S motherboard, 17IPS19-5 power supply. The voltages from the power supply are fine, i.e. 24V, 12V, 5V, 3.3V. The voltage on the T-Con (on the fuse) is 12V, i.e. no 5V voltage and I wonder what it is based on, because I do not have a diagram. SM4108 and 24C64WP are sitting there, on which there is no power. If possible, please give me a hint in this matter. Best regards.
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  • #2 17163518
    gregor22
    Level 23  
    I found a CD25 capacitor on the t-con board and after desoldering the voltages came back but I don't know what to put in because I don't know the value of this capacitor. I can not replace the t-con either because it is an integral part with the panel. Maybe someone will suggest what value can be assumed?
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  • #3 17163782
    mirex
    Level 43  
    What do you have at hand? 1uF? 10uF?
    And how would you move your head and look "in the vicinity" for a comparable, take it out, measure it? ;)
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    #4 17164130
    lisek
    Service technician RTV
    There is no datasheet for this QFN-88 pin SM4108 chip

    Usually it rains C connected to pin 1 of this system, unless it is responsible e.g. for:
    - for example VONE as is in layout. with Q3 transistor (pnp ala BD140 / ZTX)
    * (or HAVDD)

    Orion 32LBT731 TV: No Picture, Backlight & Audio - VES315WNVS-01-B, 17MB82S, 17IPS19-5 Issue
    Orion 32LBT731 TV: No Picture, Backlight & Audio - VES315WNVS-01-B, 17MB82S, 17IPS19-5 Issue
    * with t-con 320CODESIGNS4LV0.2 for VES315WNDS-01 matrix
    * the same SM4108 is on
    - T-con 1CA320AP18S4LV0.1 for matrices: LTA320AN01, or its "analog" TCL LVW320SSTM E1
    - TA320AP05 matrix and T-con: A320AP20S4LV0.4

    You have to look at the solutions of other systems. DC-DC SM41xx, something was written in this forum
    Or similar as DC-DC, e.g. TPS65161, CM501

    Draw on a piece of paper the layout of work with this C (damaged) and by analogy
    Orion 32LBT731 TV: No Picture, Backlight & Audio - VES315WNVS-01-B, 17MB82S, 17IPS19-5 Issue
    Orion 32LBT731 TV: No Picture, Backlight & Audio - VES315WNVS-01-B, 17MB82S, 17IPS19-5 Issue

    ps
    Damage with T-con on this SM4108 is
    - usually there is backlight, no image or pin lines on the screen, or a horizontal duplicate image, milky image (image content visible behind a transparent white curtain),
    sample voltages from the LTA320 matrix ...
    VIN = 11.9V
    VCC = 3.25V
    VDD1 = 3.25V
    VDD1L = 3.25v
    VONE = 27.8V - up to 29.7V
    VOFFE = (-8.9v) with a minus
    AVDD = 15.8 - up to 16.5V
    HAVDD = 7.8V
    VCOM usually around 1/2 worth (AVDD)
    - made on a separate IC SOP10-pin (2x 5pin) code: 043z that is ISL45043IRZ

    Orion 32LBT731 TV: No Picture, Backlight & Audio - VES315WNVS-01-B, 17MB82S, 17IPS19-5 Issue

    Orion 32LBT731 TV: No Picture, Backlight & Audio - VES315WNVS-01-B, 17MB82S, 17IPS19-5 Issue they usually stand ceramics at 4.7-5uF
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  • #5 17164495
    gregor22
    Level 23  
    Thanks for the hints, Lisek is about voltage VONE on this capacitor is now 29v. I will immediately substitute and check if this Q3 is still not stoned.
  • #6 17171842
    gregor22
    Level 23  
    CD25 replaced, I put 5uF but additionally replaced the Q3 transistor because it stuck. The TV is working properly. Thank you for your help.
  • #7 19164255
    lsznura
    Level 11  
    Probably it is not a single case that the CD25 has such logic because I found the same only in the Toshiba 32W3433.
  • #8 21594631
    ppetroff
    Level 1  
    Please, what transistor is used for Q3 on mine, it has the designation O28 and I can't find what it means.

Topic summary

The Orion 32LBT731 TV exhibits a fault where the backlight and audio function, but no picture is displayed. The TV uses a VES315WNVS-01-B matrix, 17MB82S motherboard, and 17IPS19-5 power supply. Power supply voltages (24V, 12V, 5V, 3.3V) are correct, but the T-Con board lacks the 5V supply on the fuse line. The T-Con contains an SM4108 chip and 24C64WP memory, both unpowered. Investigation revealed a faulty capacitor labeled CD25 on the T-Con board; desoldering it restored voltages. The capacitor value was unknown, but a 5µF replacement was used successfully. Additionally, the Q3 transistor (a PNP type similar to BD140/ZTX) was found defective and replaced. After these repairs, the TV restored full picture functionality. Similar capacitor issues were noted in Toshiba 32W3433 models. Queries about the Q3 transistor designation "O28" remain unresolved.
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