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Unscrewing Screws from Brake Yoke: Step-by-Step Guide for Citroen Berlingo Brake Disc Replacement

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  • #1 17246387
    andrzej123456
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    Today, briefly on the subject.
    You want to replace the brake disc and come to the moment you unscrew the bolts securing the yoke.
    If you downplay this fragment, you will treat yourself to a string of unnecessary material losses and labor-intensive activities.
    The photos discuss the process on the example of citroen berlingo. Unscrewing Screws from Brake Yoke: Step-by-Step Guide for Citroen Berlingo Brake Disc Replacement Unscrewing Screws from Brake Yoke: Step-by-Step Guide for Citroen Berlingo Brake Disc Replacement Unscrewing Screws from Brake Yoke: Step-by-Step Guide for Citroen Berlingo Brake Disc Replacement Unscrewing Screws from Brake Yoke: Step-by-Step Guide for Citroen Berlingo Brake Disc Replacement Unscrewing Screws from Brake Yoke: Step-by-Step Guide for Citroen Berlingo Brake Disc Replacement Unscrewing Screws from Brake Yoke: Step-by-Step Guide for Citroen Berlingo Brake Disc Replacement Unscrewing Screws from Brake Yoke: Step-by-Step Guide for Citroen Berlingo Brake Disc Replacement Unscrewing Screws from Brake Yoke: Step-by-Step Guide for Citroen Berlingo Brake Disc Replacement Unscrewing Screws from Brake Yoke: Step-by-Step Guide for Citroen Berlingo Brake Disc Replacement Unscrewing Screws from Brake Yoke: Step-by-Step Guide for Citroen Berlingo Brake Disc Replacement
    The bolts from the yoke are originally tightened with a high torque and fastened with the use of demountable adhesive - blue color on the threads.
    In many parts of the network there are tips that partly answer the question.
    Take the basic advice:
    - apply all the given methods at the same time and the screws will unscrew !!!
    -adjusting only some methods will damage the milling cutter on the t55 torx
    - most often the screw is damaged by jumping out of the key from the screw during unscrewing
    - it should be added that the screws are hard to reach - service

    So, go to work:
    - use keys of good quality
    - the key knob can not be shock absorbed - 3/4 inch lever with reduction
    - lock the key when unscrewing with the carpentry clamp - the most important
    - place the thread with a small burner around 200 °, cover the rubber gaskets
    tin from a beer can
    -the burner must have a narrow stream of fire
    - unscrew the screw with the help of the applied pipe on the knob
    - do not use loosening by slow pressure on the key
    - do not forget about hitting the screw with a hammer
    -you can also make a stroke in the side of the screw by using a chisel

    As you can see in the pictures, the screws are not corroded so pouring them with all sprays brings a small effect.
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  • #2 17351671
    Tommy82
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    I will add a torx socket well from me because you can make a mistake in the choice of torx.
    And after the bolt I beat it with the torx inserted.
    I prefer to destroy torx like a screw.
  • #3 17743729
    andrzej123456
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    I would add that it is best to use sockets 1/2 inch impact type.
    During loosening they absorb the least. Unscrewing Screws from Brake Yoke: Step-by-Step Guide for Citroen Berlingo Brake Disc Replacement
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    bendar
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    I was going to start a separate topic, but I do not need this question. Because my question is. I want to have a device that will help me unscrew the screws from the yoke's suspension, etc. Here comes the induction device.

    For example, something like that.




    The above mentioned device is perfect for this type of cases.

    Now one more question. Can something like the movie below be adapted to help me unscrew the screws.






    Can you:
    - change the size of the induction loop
    - number of rolls
    - get rid of cooling
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  • #5 17748171
    przem27
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    Good tools, and it did not happen that I would not unscrew. By the way, ceramic grease is used for the slides, not oil.
    pozdr
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  • #7 17750337
    andrzej123456
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    k. przemo 27
    probably it is not the original lubrication of the slide, but as a syringe through the rubber cover you will press the lubricant.
    Many years I used oil / even burned / and it was a better solution than dry work with rust in the middle - so good manufacturers of cheap replacements.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    k. bendar
    I had no contact with the heaters to unscrew, but for surface hardening, yes.
    I think it's a good non-invasive unscrewing !!
    Only road and heavy equipment to do yourself.
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  • #8 17750367
    bendar
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    @ andrzej123456 enter yourself in google ZVS induction heating and you are sobbing that it is not so expensive anymore. I became interested in it because I already experienced persistence with loosening of rusty screws.
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    vogelek1
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    weld large caps on these heads from yokes and then replace them with others

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    vogelek1 wrote:
    weld large caps on these heads from yokes and then replace them with others


    and no one writes about the basic principle of unscrewing bolts, i.e. you have to tighten it first to unscrew such seized bolts. Greetings.
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    bendar
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    I see that you want to fasten with screws :) .
    Quote:
    the basic principle of unscrewing screws, i.e. you have to tighten them first to loosen them

    valuable advice ... I will check how it works in combat.
  • #11 17750515
    vogelek1
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    Not always the first screw tightening method works, it depends on several factors,
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    piachu1994
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    vogelek1 wrote:
    Not always the first screw tightening method works, it depends on several factors,

    This does not mislead the user.
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    janek1815
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    vogelek1 wrote:
    weld large caps on these heads from yokes and then replace them with others


    andrzej123456 wrote:
    it should be added that the screws are hard to reach - servicing


    There have been such patents, and after repairing the torches, only hex bolts could not get into the place. Often the factory establishes a torx and when buying a replacement there are already hexagonal screws.
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    przem27
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    andrzej123456 wrote:
    but as you push the syringe through the rubber cover you will press the lubricant.


    It undresses and cleans or eventually exchanges like corroded echoes ...
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    andrzej123456
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    k. Jan 1815-
    -the idea of replacing the torx screws with an ordinary hexagon - after a slight corrosion in the hexagon, the keys rotate and after the event - checked and that is why the car industry uses torx

    k.vogelek1-
    I think that pre-tightening is more risky than hitting a screw with a copper hammer and gives the same effect!

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    To all-
    I see that colleagues forget that the discussed screws combine demountable adhesive and this completely changes the situation.
  • #16 19245509
    mario11031980
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    Heat the screws with a burner, then pour water so that you can touch the screws, then it goes lightly.
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    przem27
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    For two years he must have managed it ...
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    athod
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    I have a question about the tightening torques of the yoke and the caliper on the rear axle in Skoda Rapid from 2016 1.2 TSI 110km?
  • #19 19592908
    andrzej123456
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    The article is about loosening screws.
    The parameters you are asking for are in the service manual.
    In my case, the yoke bolts were on blue glue - a nightmare.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion focuses on the process of unscrewing bolts from the brake yoke during brake disc replacement on a Citroen Berlingo. Key techniques include using a torx socket to avoid mistakes, employing 1/2 inch impact sockets for better torque absorption, and considering induction heating devices for loosening stubborn screws. Participants share experiences with various tools, including ceramic grease for slides, and discuss the effectiveness of pre-tightening screws before attempting to unscrew them. The conversation also touches on the challenges posed by corrosion and the use of demountable adhesives on screws, as well as the potential for replacing torx screws with hexagonal ones.
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FAQ

TL;DR: For Citroën Berlingo caliper yoke bolts, heat to about 200°C, then use a locked T55 Torx—"apply all the given methods at the same time." Combine impact leverage and hammer shocks. [Elektroda, andrzej123456, post #17246387]

Why it matters: This helps DIYers and pros avoid stripped bolts, damaged boots, and wasted hours during brake disc replacement.

Quick Facts

What’s the correct Torx size and how do I avoid stripping the yoke bolts?

Use a T55 Torx for the Berlingo yoke bolts. Seat it fully and keep it straight. Lock the bit to the bracket using a carpentry clamp to stop cam‑out. Strike the bolt head once to shock the threads, then apply leverage. "Lock the key when unscrewing with the carpentry clamp - the most important." [Elektroda, andrzej123456, post #17246387]

What tools do I need to break the factory yoke bolts free safely?

Use high‑quality tools. Fit a solid breaker bar (3/4 inch with reducer), lock the Torx bit with a clamp, and add a pipe for leverage. Use a small burner with a narrow flame and shield nearby rubber. Add controlled hammer blows to the bolt head. A sideward chisel tap can also help start movement. Avoid slow, steady pressure that rounds heads. [Elektroda, andrzej123456, post #17246387]

How hot should I heat the bolts to release blue threadlocker?

Warm the boss around the threaded area to about 200°C with a narrow flame. Shield rubber boots and hoses with a wrap of thin tin, like from a beer can. Focus heat on the bracket ear, not the rubber. After heating, add a hammer shock and then torque with your breaker bar. This temperature helps soften medium-strength blue threadlocker. [Elektroda, andrzej123456, post #17246387]

Do penetrating sprays help here or should I skip them?

If the bolts aren’t corroded, sprays do little. The primary obstacle is the blue removable threadlocker and high factory torque. Heat, precise bit control, and short shock loads work better here. Focus on seating the T55, locking it with a clamp, and applying heat before levering. [Elektroda, andrzej123456, post #17246387]

Should I use steady pressure or impacts to loosen these bolts?

Avoid slow, steady pressure because it promotes cam‑out and head damage. Use short shock inputs instead. Strike the bolt head with a hammer to break static friction, then pull with a long lever. A sideways chisel tap on the head can also help nudge it free. [Elektroda, andrzej123456, post #17246387]

Do impact sockets really make a difference on caliper bracket bolts?

Yes. Use 1/2 inch impact‑type sockets. They absorb the least during loosening, which improves torque transfer and reduces twist. Pair the impact socket with a quality T55 bit and a long breaker bar. This combination minimizes tool flex and helps prevent bit slip. [Elektroda, andrzej123456, post #17743729]

Is an induction heater worth it for loosening seized caliper bolts?

A member experienced with heat treatment recommends it as a non‑invasive method. It targets the boss, softens threadlocker, and avoids open flame near rubber. "I think it's a good non‑invasive unscrewing!! Only road and heavy equipment to do yourself." Budget and workspace decide if you buy or DIY. [Elektroda, andrzej123456, post #17750337]

Are DIY ZVS induction heaters a budget alternative for this job?

Yes, forum members note ZVS induction heaters have become affordable. They became interested after struggles with rusty fasteners. Research designs and safety before building or buying. Use coil shapes that fit around the bolt boss and avoid contact with rubber. [Elektroda, bendar, post #17750367]

Does the “tighten first” trick actually help on stuck bolts?

It sometimes helps break static friction, but it doesn’t always work. Success depends on several factors like thread condition and access. If it fails, revert to heat, shocks, and precise bit control. Avoid forcing it if the bit starts to twist or cam‑out. [Elektroda, vogelek1, post #17750515]

Should I replace Torx yoke bolts with hex bolts after removal?

Avoid swapping to hex heads. Even slight corrosion in hex recesses can cause the key to spin and round out. Automotive engineers use Torx on purpose for better drive engagement. Replace with proper Torx‑head bolts of the correct grade and length. [Elektroda, andrzej123456, post #17755852]

What lubricant should I use on caliper slide pins?

Use ceramic grease on slide pins, not oil. Oil can migrate or carbonize under brake heat. Ceramic greases resist high temperatures and help prevent sticking. Clean parts thoroughly before reassembly for smooth sliding. Apply a thin, even coat under the boots. [Elektroda, przem27, post #17748171]

How do I protect rubber boots and hoses while heating near the brakes?

Shield rubber with thin tin, like a wrap cut from a beer can. Use a burner with a narrow flame. Aim heat at the threaded boss only and keep movement minimal. This protects seals and hoses while bringing the threadlocker up to temperature. [Elektroda, andrzej123456, post #17246387]

Quick 3‑step: How do I loosen Berlingo yoke bolts without damage?

  1. Seat a T55 Torx fully and lock it to the bracket with a clamp; fit a long breaker bar.
  2. Heat the boss to about 200°C with a narrow flame; shield nearby rubber with tin; strike the head once.
  3. Pull with pipe leverage, avoiding slow pressure; if needed, tap a chisel sideways to start movement. [Elektroda, andrzej123456, post #17246387]

Where do I find rear caliper/yoke torque specs for a Skoda Rapid?

Consult the official service manual for your Rapid. The thread focuses on loosening techniques and not torque values. The author notes their yoke bolts were installed with blue threadlocker. Always replace any single‑use fasteners and follow OEM torque specs. [Elektroda, andrzej123456, post #19592908]

Can I quench hot bolts with water after heating?

One member reports success with this sequence: heat the bolts with a burner, then pour water until they’re cool enough to touch. They found the bolts then loosened more easily. Exercise caution with thermal shock and always protect components during heating. [Elektroda, mario11031980, post #19245509]
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