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[Solved] Scenic II 2005/2006 Pre-LIFT: Tuner List or Update List? Identifying Correct Radio Model

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  • #1 17288213
    rumpelek
    Level 12  
    Hello,

    Car: Scenic II from 2005/2006 - but this is the version BEFORE LIFT - no Polish menu (checked by CLIP)
    When we bought it, the radio had a pioneer or something ... but it annoyed me and I bought it by. any radio tuner list (for pre-lift version). After connecting the radio on the screen dark - only the hour and temperature are lit. I began to doubt if by accident someone had changed the meter to polift and maybe in this situation I should buy a radio Update List ... photo of the meter: Scenic II 2005/2006 Pre-LIFT: Tuner List or Update List? Identifying Correct Radio Model

    As far as I could use the search box, it turns out that it is a counter before the lift (although I do not know how to distinguish 100% from one another ...)

    Radio bought on OLX.pl - honestly I have no idea where to start to check what and how?
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  • #2 17288545
    LWD11
    Level 31  
    Take a picture of the mini iso plug with cables which is connected to the radio.
  • #3 17288562
    rumpelek
    Level 12  
    around afternoon ... :)
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  • #4 17301582
    rumpelek
    Level 12  
    ok ... a few afternoons :) (holiday trip was ...)
    Radio tested in another scenic (in-laws) - works fine.

    for me the plugs look like this.

    Scenic II 2005/2006 Pre-LIFT: Tuner List or Update List? Identifying Correct Radio Model
    Scenic II 2005/2006 Pre-LIFT: Tuner List or Update List? Identifying Correct Radio Model
    Scenic II 2005/2006 Pre-LIFT: Tuner List or Update List? Identifying Correct Radio Model
    Scenic II 2005/2006 Pre-LIFT: Tuner List or Update List? Identifying Correct Radio Model
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  • #6 17301933
    rumpelek
    Level 12  
    Can you expand
    Installation prepared for the updated list? Is the counter for update list? Because from what I think (I'm not sure) the counter is before the lift so the radio must be tunerlist.
    If the installation is an update list, how to convert it to a tuner list?
  • #7 17319832
    rumpelek
    Level 12  
    ok ... Is it true that the display can be distinguished (update from Tuner) by the display, under the strong light of the flashlight is the inscription ... Scenic II 2005/2006 Pre-LIFT: Tuner List or Update List? Identifying Correct Radio Model

    you can see here the inscription "tuner list" so I opt that the meter is from Tuner, Radio Tuner ... so I am asking you for the wiring diagram from the plugins ... the car's history must be interesting :) it is afraid to think how much the German was crying ... and how much mileage it was possible to negotiate :D DD
  • #8 17321141
    LWD11
    Level 31  
    The plugins from the photo are for the radio updatelist (bridged white and green wires), after all we have already established it at pw. The display does not show tunerlist, only the tuner (radio) and list, i.e. the list of individual radio stations. Connect the radio updatelist.
  • #9 17321163
    rumpelek
    Level 12  
    Connect the radio update list ... how easy it is to say (as I do not have coverage :( ) Only that it seems to me (and no one has yet helped me confirm this thesis) that I also have a Tuner List display ... and the installation is converted into an Update List (or maybe even the original ?! - car from the lift period) I have a suspicion that the counter is inserted not the original maybe just instead of UpdateList someone put in the Tuner List and therefore when I bought the car the dealer threw out the original radio and put in some ordinary 1 din ...
    question for 100 points .... how to check if the display is Tuner or Update?
  • #10 17321167
    LWD11
    Level 31  
    sticker on the back of the display 2010, this is the display under the updatelist
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  • #11 17321180
    rumpelek
    Level 12  
    Ok ... you convinced me :D why don't I have the Polish Menu in the Clip? :(
  • #12 17321184
    LWD11
    Level 31  
    rumpelek wrote:
    Ok ... you convinced me :D why don't I have the Polish Menu in the Clip? :(


    EVENTUALLY ! .... :D

    I do not know why you do not have a pole in the menu, you would have to log in to some forum of Renault lovers and ask how it is.
  • #13 17321189
    rumpelek
    Level 12  
    LWD11 wrote:
    EVENTUALLY ! ....
    I think I was a woman in my previous life ... I have such accretions ... :D
  • #14 17322766
    rumpelek
    Level 12  
    Well, unfortunately BUG ... on the Renault forum I was informed that I have a 100% Tuner List display! what counts is the version of the display software and the fact that on my display there are red elements (speedometer, signaling the door open) in the polift (update lists - i.e. cooperating with these radios) everything is one color.

    :( ehhhh ...
  • #15 17322809
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist  
    Not exactly. As far as I remember, in my (from 2008) the signaling of the open door, the trunk and the symbol of the belts was red. However the difference is in the ruler ruler - in my numbers were green, only the last lines in the ruler were red. There were a few more differences in colors, e.g. automatic gear signaling.
    Just during normal driving conditions, NOTHING lights up red on the display.
  • #16 17322826
    rumpelek
    Level 12  
    Now I know ... before the lift (Tuner List) has a tachometer the red tip
    Scenic II 2005/2006 Pre-LIFT: Tuner List or Update List? Identifying Correct Radio Model

    Polift (Update List) has a single color tachometer
    Scenic II 2005/2006 Pre-LIFT: Tuner List or Update List? Identifying Correct Radio Model
  • #17 17322962
    rumpelek
    Level 12  
    Now I know ... before the lift (Tuner List) has a tachometer the red tip
    Scenic II 2005/2006 Pre-LIFT: Tuner List or Update List? Identifying Correct Radio Model

    Polift (Update List) has a single color tachometer
    Scenic II 2005/2006 Pre-LIFT: Tuner List or Update List? Identifying Correct Radio Model

    Added after 1 [hours] 32 [minutes]:

    the last post shows the differences in how you can clearly determine whether the display is in front of lift (tuner list) or polift (update list)
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Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around a 2005/2006 Renault Scenic II, specifically the pre-lift version, and the challenges faced in identifying the correct radio model and tuner list. The user initially replaced the original Pioneer radio but encountered issues with the display showing only the time and temperature. Participants suggested checking the wiring and provided insights on distinguishing between the Tuner List and Update List displays. Key indicators include the color of the tachometer and specific markings on the display. Ultimately, it was confirmed that the user's display is a Tuner List, and the installation may have been altered to accommodate an Update List radio. The conversation also touched on the absence of a Polish menu in the CLIP diagnostic tool.

FAQ

TL;DR: Scenic II radio ID made simple: 2 wires bridged (white+green) = Updatelist harness; "Connect the radio updatelist." Need to know if your 2005/2006 pre‑lift needs Tuner List or Update List, and why the display stays dark? [Elektroda, LWD11, post #17321141]

Why it matters: This helps Scenic II owners quickly match the correct radio to their car and fix no‑display issues.

Quick Facts

How do I tell if my Scenic II has Tuner List or Update List?

Check the radio harness. If the mini ISO shows bridged white and green wires, it’s Updatelist. “Connect the radio updatelist.” How-To: 1. Unplug the radio and expose the mini ISO. 2. Look for a white–green bridged pair. 3. If bridged, fit an Updatelist radio; if not, suspect Tuner List. [Elektroda, LWD11, post #17321141]

Why is my display dark except for clock and temperature after fitting a radio?

That mismatch usually means the radio type doesn’t match the display/wiring. The unit may power up, but the screen stays dark except for time and temperature. Pair the radio type to the harness and display to restore functions. [Elektroda, rumpelek, post #17288213]

Does a 2010 sticker on the display mean it’s for Update List?

Yes. A sticker dated 2010 on the back of the display indicates it’s an Updatelist display. Match it with an Updatelist radio for full functionality and screen integration. [Elektroda, LWD11, post #17321167]

Can I trust the faint “tuner list” wording on the display glass to identify my system?

No. That wording relates to station list functionality, not the head unit family. It does not certify a Tuner List system. Use harness and display cues instead to identify the correct radio type. [Elektroda, LWD11, post #17321141]

My 2005/2006 pre‑lift Scenic has Updatelist plugs. Is that possible?

Yes. Your car can have an Updatelist‑configured harness even if other parts look pre‑lift. The pictured plugs with a white–green bridge confirm Updatelist. Fit an Updatelist radio to match the wiring. [Elektroda, LWD11, post #17321141]

What visual cluster cue separates pre‑lift (Tuner List) from post‑lift (Update List)?

Look at the tachometer. Pre‑lift clusters show a red tip on the rev scale. Post‑lift Update List clusters use a single color. This quick visual check helps avoid radio/display mismatches. [Elektroda, rumpelek, post #17322826]

Is a red‑tipped tachometer a guaranteed Tuner List indicator?

Community feedback called a red‑tipped tachometer a 100% pre‑lift Tuner List cue. Software version still matters for features like language packs. Confirm with harness checks before buying hardware. [Elektroda, rumpelek, post #17322766]

The radio worked in another Scenic but not mine. What does that prove?

It proves the radio is fine and your issue is car‑side. Focus on wiring compatibility and display type. In the thread, a cross‑car test confirmed the unit worked elsewhere. [Elektroda, rumpelek, post #17301582]

Should I convert the car’s wiring to Tuner List or just fit an Updatelist radio?

If your plugs are Updatelist, fit an Updatelist radio. Conversions add complexity and risk intermittent faults. As one expert put it: “Connect the radio updatelist.” [Elektroda, LWD11, post #17321141]

Can display icon colors alone (doors, belts, gears) identify the system?

No. Some post‑lift cars still show red icons for doors or belts. That cue alone is unreliable. Use tachometer color and harness bridging for positive identification. [Elektroda, sanfran, post #17322809]

CLIP shows no Polish menu. What gives?

Language availability depends on the display’s software version. If that software lacks Polish, CLIP will not offer it. Updating hardware or software may be required to gain that language. [Elektroda, rumpelek, post #17322766]

Are Tuner List and Update List displays interchangeable?

Treat them as non‑interchangeable. Updatelist plugs expect an Updatelist radio. Mixing families often leads to partial functions or a dark screen. Match radio and harness type to restore full operation. [Elektroda, LWD11, post #17321141]
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