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[Solved] Satel Perfecta: Programming Control Panel via GSM & PERFECTA Soft, No USB-RS Cable Needed

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  • #1 17539468
    jahu21
    Level 12  
    Could someone explain the control panel configuration procedure using the keypad in order to start programming the control panel via GSM and the PERFECTA Soft application, i.e. bypassing the USB-RS converter for programming SATEL devices? I don't have a cable and it's a shame to spend on a one-time installation.
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  • #2 17539512
    dariusz.bembenek
    Stationary Alarms specialist
    Program in GSM:
    - SIM support
    - PIN
    - GPRS APN (+ possibly user, password)
    - DNS (8.8.8.8)
    - Connectivity via the Satel server (Perfecta Soft)

    Read ID and IMEI in:
    Password * Tests ...
    Use the above parameters for remote connection.
  • #3 17539563
    jahu21
    Level 12  
    Thanks a lot for your quick response. Please confirm if I understand correctly. Using the manipulator:

    - in the service mode (SIM card configuration in 1 slot):
    6.1.1. SIM support (enabling SIM card support in slot 1)
    6.1.2. SIM card PIN
    6.1.3. Operator APN
    possibly (according to the requirements of the GSM operator 614.USR and 615.PWD, i.e. username and password)
    6.1.6. Operator's DNS (or google 8.8.8.8)
    6.7. Options: PERFECTA Soft - enable

    - in user mode, checking the IMEI Id:
    [97] checking IMEI number / ID number (9. Tests -> 7. IMEI / ID)

    -then, install the Perfecta Soft application on a computer with Internet access, enter the data of the PBX ID IMEI.

    The control panel key is also needed (in service mode 0. System -> 1.Panel key)?
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  • #4 17539647
    dariusz.bembenek
    Stationary Alarms specialist
    Now I am not able to confirm these "numbers" in the functions, but something like that. As for the switchboard key, it is not necessary for this operation. During the first connection to the factory control panel (remotely or locally), the program will find out that the control panel is without a key and will offer its key.
  • #5 17598403
    Jap
    Level 29  
    jahu21 wrote:
    Thanks a lot for your quick response. Please confirm if I understand correctly. Using the manipulator:

    - in the service mode (SIM card configuration in 1 slot):
    6.1.1. SIM support (enabling SIM card support in slot 1)
    6.1.2. SIM card PIN
    6.1.3. Operator APN
    possibly (according to the requirements of the GSM operator 614.USR and 615.PWD, i.e. username and password)
    6.1.6. Operator's DNS (or google 8.8.8.8)
    6.7. Options: PERFECTA Soft - enable

    - in user mode, checking the IMEI Id:
    [97] checking IMEI number / ID number (9. Tests -> 7. IMEI / ID)

    -then, install the Perfecta Soft application on a computer with Internet access, enter the data of the PBX ID IMEI.

    The control panel key is also needed (in service mode 0. System -> 1.Panel key)?


    Managed to? Can I take it as an instruction? I fell today ... Is the SIM inserted or not, the SIM1 LED is on but I cannot establish a connection. I can't see the GSM signal strength - only 433MHz.
    Can you advise anything?
  • #6 17598471
    dariusz.bembenek
    Stationary Alarms specialist
    Enable SIM card support.
  • #7 17598491
    Jap
    Level 29  
    gee ... but where (from the manipulator)?
    In menu 6.1.1. SIM 1 only had a dot. I wanted to change it to "T" but it didn't work ...

    Well, I read that - MCC / MNC code - I did not enter this data :(

    I have a PLAY card, the parameters they provide:

    access point (apn): internet
    access number: * 99 #
    username: none
    password: none
    dns: dynamic

    What about DNS? Give me a google?


    ps Is it normal that the SIM 1 led is lit even without a SIM card?
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  • #8 17602675
    Valdi32
    Level 11  
    PLAY may not work, it must be a card with GPRS / 2G support.
    best regards
  • #9 17602865
    bhtom
    Level 38  
    Hello,

    Jap wrote:
    gee ... but where (from the manipulator)?
    In menu 6.1.1. SIM 1 only had a dot. I wanted to change it to "T" but it didn't work ...


    Sometimes, it's just enough to read the manual ...

    Satel Perfecta: Programming Control Panel via GSM & PERFECTA Soft, No USB-RS Cable Needed

    Best regards.
  • #10 17605487
    Jap
    Level 29  
    Mea culpa .. I put together the system for 3 days and in the heat of the fight I did not read. This is what it is like when you putty, cut, build alarms, install fireplaces, etc. at one time :|

    It works. I did not change MCC / MNC to a car and nothing was entered manually.
    The Play card also works - but on the Perfecty display I can see ORANGE and today P4. From what I know, they probably roam inside the country - i.e. they have coverage of all networks.
    There is still a perfect system configuration in the so-called "mean time".
  • #11 17628769
    matrix27
    Level 10  
    jahu21 wrote:
    Thanks a lot for your quick response. Please confirm if I understand correctly. Using the manipulator:

    - in the service mode (SIM card configuration in 1 slot):
    6.1.1. SIM support (enabling SIM card support in slot 1)
    6.1.2. SIM card PIN
    6.1.3. Operator APN
    possibly (according to the requirements of the GSM operator 614.USR and 615.PWD, i.e. username and password)
    6.1.6. Operator's DNS (or google 8.8.8.8)
    6.7. Options: PERFECTA Soft - enable

    - in user mode, checking the IMEI Id:
    [97] checking IMEI number / ID number (9. Tests -> 7. IMEI / ID)

    -then, install the Perfecta Soft application on a computer with Internet access, enter the data of the PBX ID IMEI.

    The control panel key is also needed (in service mode 0. System -> 1.Panel key)?


    I'm facing exactly the same problem and unfortunately still haven't been able to connect. I have a SIM card from Virgin Mobile. The settings I made:
    6.1.1. SIM 1 support - enabled
    6.1.2. SIM card PIN - set
    6.1.3. Operator APN - set as virgin-internet (maybe something is wrong here)
    6.1.6. Operator's DNS (or google 8.8.8.8) - I set 8.8.8.8
    6.7. Options: PERFECTA Soft - enable - enabled

    - in user mode, checking the IMEI Id:
    [97] checking IMEI number / ID number (9. Tests -> 7. IMEI / ID)
    IMEI - checked and introduced
    ID - is displayed on the keypad for FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. Perfecta Soft does not allow such a key to be entered. I entered 1111111111111111 but unfortunately it didn't help.

    Auto MCC / MNC in option 6.1.1 is turned on. The question is whether something needs to be entered in 6.1.8 MCC / MNC? And if so, in what format, because you can put nothing but numbers there and MCC is 260 and MNC 06.

    I will be grateful for any tips,
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  • #12 17628945
    dariusz.bembenek
    Stationary Alarms specialist
    Again. An ID with the value "FFFFFF ......" means that the correct ID has not yet been assigned by the Satellite server. Any attempts to use this ID for communication are completely pointless.
    The ID number must be different than "FFFFFFFFFFFF ...", and must be hexadecimal characters (digits 0..9 and letters A ... F). We do not broadcast this number, it is provided by the Satel server .
    You should make sure that the card has "ability" to connect to the Internet, additionally check that the APN is correct (I don't know what it is like in this operator).
    As for the MCC / MNC, I am asking for seriousness. Everything is in the manual.

    26001 - pl, plus
    26002 - pl, t-mobile
    26003 - pl, orange

    If the card uses domestic roaming (similar to Play), it may make sense to use MCC and MNC. However, if the card connects "only to itself", then any attempts to play MCC / MNC are unnecessary.

    Supporting questions:
    - are you sure it is enabled (options)? there should be a "T" character next to these options (by looking at it in the keypad)
    - is the sim card working? (Notification)
  • #13 17629427
    matrix27
    Level 10  
    dariusz.bembenek wrote:
    Again. An ID with the value "FFFFFF ......" means that the correct ID has not yet been assigned by the Satellite server. Any attempts to use this ID for communication are completely pointless.
    The ID number must be different than "FFFFFFFFFFFF ...", and must be hexadecimal characters (digits 0..9 and letters A ... F). We do not broadcast this number, it is provided by the Satel server .
    You should make sure that the card has "ability" to connect to the Internet, additionally check that the APN is correct (I don't know what it is like in this operator).
    As for the MCC / MNC, I am asking for seriousness. Everything is in the manual.

    26001 - pl, plus
    26002 - pl, t-mobile
    26003 - pl, orange

    If the card uses domestic roaming (similar to Play), it may make sense to use MCC and MNC. However, if the card connects "only to itself", then any attempts to play MCC / MNC are unnecessary.

    Supporting questions:
    - are you sure it is enabled (options)? there should be a "T" character next to these options (by looking at it in the keypad)
    - is the sim card working? (Notification)


    I checked all the options again - I have everything properly marked, wherever necessary there are T instead of dots.
    I checked the card on my phone - the internet works. I also corrected the APN name as it was on the phone.
    Thank you for explaining the ID case, but this is probably where the problem will be. The SATEL server assigns the ID number itself - it should be so. So why if I do not enter anything in the ID field and try to establish a connection, Perfecta SOFT displays the following message:
    Satel Perfecta: Programming Control Panel via GSM & PERFECTA Soft, No USB-RS Cable Needed

    Then I cannot make a connection attempt at all. If I enter anything in the ID field, e.g. only ones, then I can try to connect, but I get this message:
    Satel Perfecta: Programming Control Panel via GSM & PERFECTA Soft, No USB-RS Cable Needed

    Any ideas where the problem is?

    EDIT:
    I managed to solve the problem - it turned out that the GSM antenna detached from the socket in the control panel, which was invisible at first glance. After plugging it in, the control panel established communication with the Satel server and an ID number appeared on the keypad, which, after entering into Perfecta Soft, enabled communication.

    Currently I have another problem - sabotage is not working during the zone test. I have plugged 3 tampers into one zone in the control panel: 1 from the siren housing and 2 from the control panel housing (I assume you can). During the zone test, I violate the tamper of the control panel housing, but there is no reaction on the keypad. When I unplugged the COM from this circuit, the alarm went off.
    I connected the tamper contacts of the control panel housing to the NC, in Perfecta Soft I also chose the Circuit Type as NC and the Reaction Type as 24h Tamper.
    Can several separate tampers be connected to one zone of the control panel? Where is the problem here?
  • #14 17633169
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    matrix27 wrote:
    I have plugged 3 tampers into one zone in the control panel: 1 from the siren housing and 2 from the control panel housing (I assume you can). During the zone test, I violate the tamper of the control panel housing, but there is no reaction on the keypad. When I unplugged the COM from this circuit, the alarm went off.

    It shouldn't be done as you connected them - in parallel or in series?
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #15 17633584
    matrix27
    Level 10  
    sosarek wrote:
    matrix27 wrote:
    I have plugged 3 tampers into one zone in the control panel: 1 from the siren housing and 2 from the control panel housing (I assume you can). During the zone test, I violate the tamper of the control panel housing, but there is no reaction on the keypad. When I unplugged the COM from this circuit, the alarm went off.

    It shouldn't be done as you connected them - in parallel or in series?


    I simply connected all the TMP cables from various tampers to one control panel input, i.e. in parallel. Is this the correct method or do I have to connect each tamper wire and program it to a separate control panel zone?
  • #16 17633590
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    So no wonder that it does not work if it is connected in parallel.
    You can connect in series, or if you have free inputs, use them to connect each circuit separately.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #18 17634204
    matrix27
    Level 10  
    dawidedziu wrote:
    Do you see the difference?
    Satel Perfecta: Programming Control Panel via GSM & PERFECTA Soft, No USB-RS Cable Needed


    I can see clearly :)
    I have plugged each sabotage into a separate entrance and everything flashes. I was too eager to do this at first.
    Thanks for your advice and help.

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  • #19 19104235
    nanni85
    Level 1  
    I need to enter via keypad an apn where there is a dot in the address such as web.internet how can I do the dot from the keyboard?

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around configuring the SATEL Perfecta control panel for programming via GSM and the PERFECTA Soft application without the need for a USB-RS converter. Users share steps for enabling SIM support, setting the APN, DNS, and checking IMEI numbers. Key points include the necessity of a compatible SIM card with GPRS support, correct APN settings, and the importance of the control panel's ID assigned by the SATEL server. Troubleshooting advice is provided for connection issues, including checking physical connections and ensuring proper settings in the control panel menu. Users also discuss the significance of entering the correct MCC/MNC codes and the potential for domestic roaming affecting connectivity.
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