Utilizing Frania Washing Machine Motor for Meat Grinder Power: Starting Capacitor Query

Question

Hello. The case concerns the use of Frania's washing machine motor.

Motor shown in the photo. Nameplate not legible. The motor is to be used to power a meat grinder. The problem is engine starting. The motor hums after the voltage is applied, and starts only after turning the rotor. The kind of question that needs to be applied to get it going. Is it possible to use a starting capacitor.

sp3ots · Answer

Hello ! Unscrew the can on the engine, show what's inside.

henio 123 · Answer

Thanks for the response. This link doesn't tell me much. I still have not received an answer whether the motor can work in this condition or requires an additional capacitor.

I am not an electrician by profession and I do not want to embarrass myself in front of my family. According to the statements of people using this engine, it was used in this way.

Krzysztof Kamienski · Answer

This motor has an internal centrifugal starter switch, something like a Watt regulator. Disassemble this motor, check the contacts of this switch and the operation of its mechanism. The switch weights must slightly move the switch sleeve and the switch plate. By the way, measure the resistances of both windings - starting and working.

kierbedz4 · Answer

It is a 180 W motor and it worked without a capacitor and the operation of the centrifugal switch should be checked. If it is fully operational and its contacts are in good condition, the starting winding may be damaged. If you overload the engine above the norm, the speed will drop and the centrifugal system will activate the starting winding, which should not happen.

henio 123 · Answer

So, to put it briefly, this motor can work without a starting capacitor. After energizing the engine, the engine hums and turns the grinder wheel. I am asking this because it is already a monument and it has been a long time since they were used. This machine is supposed to be operated by women and I don't want any surprises.

atlantel · Answer

It cannot, it should be repaired as a colleague Kierbedz4 wrote.

Krzysztof Kamienski · Answer

@ Kierbedz4 Such a centrifugal switch can be removed and an external Kliston starter from the chillers can be used. Of course, the efficiency of the starting coil is essential. @Henio 123 And when working without load, this engine starts by itself?

kierbedz4 · Answer

Take a look around, maybe this engine model can be bought at some fair or on an advertising portal. Place an advertisement on Electrode. This model of the engine was completely hooded, because already in the derived models of Frania the engines were built as semi-open with a built-in starting capacitor.

LENIWIEC_PL · Answer

I warmly welcome.
I myself had 8 engines that looked like the author of the topic. I had both without a stand and with a stand on the sides or at the bottom.
This engine had 180 W of power and 1,380 revolutions. It did not need a starting capacitor because it has an internally mounted centrifugal start, which my colleagues mentioned a little higher. Unfortunately, it is worth remembering not to let the engine speed drop above the norm, because this will start the starting winding, which is delicate in these engines and will last no longer than 6 minutes (I know because I have already burned one starting winding).

Staszek49 · Answer

Colleagues suggest well, first check if the start winding is not burnt or the centrifugal switch is not damaged (after dismantling the motor, the contacts of the centrifugal device will be visible, pay attention to the ease of movement and the condition of the springs).
It seems to me that this motor will be too weak for a meat grinder (unless it is the smallest number of the grinder) and the belt transmission can be dangerous to operate it (by women). I see such equipment, but the drive is transmitted directly from the engine via a dog clutch and angular gear.

LENIWIEC_PL · Answer

When it comes to the meat grinder, the 180 W motor is definitely too weak for such designs. I have an Alfa 32 engine with a power of 700 W, 2850 rpm next to the meat grinder. coupled with a gear from a railway switch with a ratio of 1:25 and I must admit that the grinding of meat goes very quickly, although you can see that the engine has a hard time with thicker meat. The best and simplest solution is to find some geared motor or reducer and a motor with a minimum power of 500 W. Motor with a power of 180 W is not suitable for such things, too little power.

robokop · Answer

Big pulley on the clipper and it will grind slowly.

klamocik · Answer

How many such machines have I seen on the machine a bicycle wheel has not been broken by anyone and hundreds of pigs have been ground.

henio 123 · Answer

Removing the motor. Checking the starting device resistance. Installation and restarting. The motor works without any problems.

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