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Parkside PSBSA 20-Li A1 vs Parkside PABH 20-Li B2 is it worth it?

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  • #1 17665233
    czarny_alibaba
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    Parkside drill/driver PABS 20-Li D4 (20V-2A) without impact
    Parkside PSBSA 20-Li A1 vs Parkside PABH 20-Li B2 is it worth it? .
    Parkside PSBSA 20-Li A1 vs Parkside PABH 20-Li B2 is it worth it? .
    or can he buy :?: at the same price?
    BLACK+DECKER with Stroke(BDASB18V) 18V-1,5A .
    Parkside PSBSA 20-Li A1 vs Parkside PABH 20-Li B2 is it worth it? .
    Parkside PSBSA 20-Li A1 vs Parkside PABH 20-Li B2 is it worth it? .

    (Test) screwdrivers
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1OU4503NCg&t=1235s


    Which one do you recommend?
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  • #2 17665424
    yanes
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    BD slimmer and as if it was not a poor relative of Dewalt, even such a simple stroke also speaks in his favor. In addition, I have a fondness for BD because in the 80's you could buy their equipment in the scout store, which some still operate today.
  • #3 17666926
    SAAX
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    When choosing a screwdriver, answer two basic questions: what will it be used for and how often will you use it?
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  • #4 17666964
    Keflavik
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    Hello.

    From 5-6 hours on youtube there is a movie with a comparison of exactly those screwdrivers (I did not create a movie).
    I mean, those screwdrivers you're asking for, because the title of this topic is the wrong name of the Parkside screwdriver.

    Greetings.

    PS I think something happened to the subject from which it was separated, because at least I currently do not "see it".
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  • #5 17667434
    czarny_alibaba
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    Keflavik wrote:
    Hello.

    From 5-6 hours on youtube there is a movie with a comparison of exactly those screwdrivers (I did not create a movie).


    .

    Can you provide a link?
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  • #7 17667522
    czarny_alibaba
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    yanes wrote:
    BD slimmer and as if it was not a poor relative of Dewalt, even such a simple stroke also speaks in his favor. .

    Next you are behind the choice of BLACK + DECKER with Stroke (BDASB18V)
    after seeing the test, these Drill Drivers?
  • #8 17667530
    yanes
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    I will say yes, both are worth the price and although I would not buy any of them personally, BD is still higher for me. As I see at work, there are teams with Parkside equipment that does not even comment on it :-) In my opinion, the best screwdriver Dewalt does, despite the fact that I use the blue Bosch now, the Dewalt impact wins with Bosch.
  • #9 17670562
    czarny_alibaba
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    Anyone of you have any of these screwdrivers and can say how it works?
  • #10 17671443
    wiesiekmisiek
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    For a few nice years I have been using Black Decker sharply from spring to winter almost to bolting rails, panes and sheets on roofs. I have worked out the poor and he is still fully functional, sometimes I still use it for small works, furniture etc. It is in good hands. I only mentioned in it the bit holder because it made life. For three years I have been using this set on the photo, and despite the weight and sometimes aching hand when screwing 300 mm carpenters, I would not buy anything else.

    Parkside PSBSA 20-Li A1 vs Parkside PABH 20-Li B2 is it worth it? Parkside PSBSA 20-Li A1 vs Parkside PABH 20-Li B2 is it worth it?
    Black & Decker is an EGBL188KB-QW model (the set cost about 450 PLN)
    Makita set
    DDF459, Impack DTD129 screwdriver - both brushless (BL MOTOR) in 2015 cost 2 thousand. PLN (probably today will be cheaper - but the set still Japan is not China).
  • #11 17671731
    czarny_alibaba
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    What are your opinions about EINHELL WIERTARKO - SCREWDRIVER WITH UDAR BT-CD 18-2 Li-i
    will be a better choice than BLACK + DECKER (BDASB18V)
    Parkside PSBSA 20-Li A1 vs Parkside PABH 20-Li B2 is it worth it?
    Parkside PSBSA 20-Li A1 vs Parkside PABH 20-Li B2 is it worth it?
    INCLUDED:
    New cordless drill + UDAR (EINHELL BT-CD 18-2 Li-i)
    Charger
    2 x 1.5 Ah battery
    Suitcase
  • #13 18046678
    irek764
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    I ordered a screwdriver PSBSA 20-Li A1 for normal Lidl, and the future black and white, otherwise identical to green. I have not found one like this, someone sells on allegro as limited. Was anyone with such colors?
    On the Lidl website, as I ordered, it was normal and green on the photos. Parkside PSBSA 20-Li A1 vs Parkside PABH 20-Li B2 is it worth it?
  • #14 18378334
    akm97
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    Hello. I just bought a Parkside PABSP 20-Li B2 screwdriver, i.e. a brushless one, but with X20V Team batteries. This is my first brushless screwdriver. I had two Einhelle Ni-Cd, Hyundai 18V Li-Ion before, which was great, but I decided to change it to brushless technology. What struck me was the very loud work of the screwdriver (compared to previous models I had). It is like a whistle, even louder in second gear. I do not know if this is a symptom of damage or the characteristics of the brushless motor. The difference can also make a turnover, because Einhelle had something in the second gear around 1100, Hyundai 1350, and here is 2000. What do you think about this?
  • #15 18907797
    Salmantopman
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    Which one do you recommend? [/ Quote]
    Well, I'll disappoint my friend who laughs at parkside teams and uses Bosch himself ha ha. Parkside is from the Bosch family, more precisely from one factory

    Added after 9 [minutes]:

    akm97 wrote:
    What struck me was the very loud work of the screwdriver (compared to the previous models I had).

    As for loud work, I have no opinion, because I do not pay attention to the sounds of the screwdrivers, but from what I can see, it is quite good in its class. The only drawbacks are the cracking housing at the base of the battery and you have to be careful to push the gear switch carefully because it can jump between 1 and 2
  • #16 21216611
    czarny_alibaba
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    What opinions do you have :

    Parkside Performance 20-volt ACUUMULATOR BRILLIERS PKHAP 20-LI A1 .
    Parkside Performance cordless hammer drill PKHAP 20-LI A1 with a visible drill bit, side view. .

    or maybe Parkside Performance PKHAP 20-LI B2

    B2 model is manufactured by Grizzly Tools and A1 model by the company Kompernass .

    Parkside has made quite a fuss about this B2 model, all in the name of wanting to reduce the price at the expense of quality.
    Originally the previous A1 model was manufactured by Kompernass, but its successor, the B2, was also manufactured by Kompernass.
    This B2 model differs drastically from the B2 model manufactured by Grizzly Tools.
    The Kompernass B2 model has grilles on both radiators, unlike Grizzly Tools, which, in order to save money, left the holes completely open, through which a bit of concrete can get through and damage the radiator. The Kompernass B2 also has a different shock absorber of better quality, and the rubber will not fall out as it can fall out or wear out with Grizzly Tools.
    The drill body screws are recessed, as on the A1, whereas on Grizzly Tools they are pushed out of the drill body.
    Kompernass deliberately did not put the switch in, whereas Grizzly Tools put the switch in, covered by a film that will eventually tear. Kompernass provides grease in the package, Grizzly Tools does not provide grease.
    All in all, Parkside has drastically crippled this model in the name of saving money, leaving it to be manufactured by the much inferior and weaker Grizzly Tools, saving everything that makes Kompernass a respected manufacturer of quality equipment.
    Everything that worked on the A1, Kompernass got right , while Grizzly Tools lowered the quality,
    Close-up of the label on a Parkside Performance PKHAP 20-LI B2 cordless rotary hammer. .


    Or is it better to invest in :
    PARKSIDE® Hammer drill PBH 1050 D4, 1050 W
    Power: 1050 W
    Impact energy: 3 joules
    Percussion rate: 0-5300 min-¹
    Parkside hammer drill in green and black with an auxiliary handle and prominent Parkside logo. .

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around comparing the Parkside PSBSA 20-Li A1 and Parkside PABH 20-Li B2 cordless drills, as well as the BLACK+DECKER BDASB18V model. Users emphasize the importance of understanding the intended use and frequency of use when selecting a screwdriver. Some participants express a preference for BLACK+DECKER due to its perceived quality and reliability, while others mention their experiences with Parkside tools, noting both positive and negative aspects. The conversation also touches on the differences in manufacturing quality between Parkside models and the implications of using brushless technology. Additionally, there are inquiries about other brands like Einhell and comparisons with other Parkside models, highlighting the ongoing debate about value and performance in budget-friendly power tools.
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FAQ

TL;DR: Parkside PBH 1050 D4 delivers 3 J at 1050 W; “Parkside has drastically crippled this model” captures PKHAP A1 vs B2 worries. For heavy masonry, choose corded; for DIY, pick a cordless with impact. [Elektroda, czarny_alibaba, post #21216611]

Why it matters: This FAQ helps DIYers and pros decide between Parkside, Black+Decker, and Einhell drills based on real user reports and use-case fit.

Quick Facts

Which is better for DIY: Parkside PABS 20‑Li D4 or BLACK+DECKER BDASB18V?

Choose BDASB18V if you might drill light masonry. It has an impact mode and a slimmer feel. “Even such a simple stroke also speaks in his favor.” Pick PABS 20‑Li D4 if you only need a non‑hammer driver. [Elektroda, yanes, post #17665424]

Parkside PSBSA 20‑Li A1 vs PABH 20‑Li B2—what should I buy?

Pick based on task. PABH 20‑Li B2 is a cordless impact drill for masonry. PSBSA 20‑Li A1 is a screwdriver for drilling wood/metal and screwdriving. Choose PABH when you need hammer action; choose PSBSA for general fastening. [Elektroda, czarny_alibaba, post #17710030]

Is the brushless Parkside PABSP 20‑Li B2 supposed to whistle loudly?

Yes, a high‑pitched sound can occur. The brushless motor and 2,000 rpm second gear make the pitch noticeable. “It is like a whistle, even louder in second gear.” This behavior was observed when moving from older, slower models. [Elektroda, akm97, post #18378334]

Are PKHAP 20‑Li A1 and B2 really different in build?

A user reports notable differences. Kompernass units had grilles on radiators, better shock absorber, recessed screws, no extra switch film, and included grease. Grizzly B2 units were described with open vents, a film‑covered switch, and missing grease. “Parkside has drastically crippled this model.” [Elektroda, czarny_alibaba, post #21216611]

What are the specific downsides cited for PKHAP 20‑Li B2 (Grizzly Tools)?

Reported downsides include open vent holes that can admit debris, a film‑covered switch that can tear, and rubber parts that may loosen. The absence of included grease was also noted. These changes were framed as cost‑cutting versus earlier builds. [Elektroda, czarny_alibaba, post #21216611]

Corded PBH 1050 D4 or cordless PKHAP—how should I choose?

For frequent concrete drilling, PBH 1050 D4 delivers 3 J, 1050 W, and 0–5300 blows/min. That favors speed and endurance. Cordless PKHAP trades power for mobility and convenience. If you mostly drill masonry, go corded; if you move a lot, go cordless. [Elektroda, czarny_alibaba, post #21216611]

Is BLACK+DECKER a “poor relative of DeWalt,” and does it matter here?

One poster calls BD slimmer and a “poor relative of DeWalt,” favoring BD due to its impact mode. That perspective nudges BD over Parkside for light masonry. The takeaway is feature fit over brand tiers for DIY tasks. [Elektroda, yanes, post #17665424]

Any long‑term user reports on these tools?

Yes. A user ran a BLACK+DECKER EGBL188KB‑QW for years on roofing work, replacing only the bit holder. They later added a Makita brushless combo. Reported costs: BD set ~450 PLN; Makita combo ~2000 PLN. [Elektroda, wiesiekmisiek, post #17671443]

Einhell BT‑CD 18‑2 Li‑i vs BDASB18V—what’s better value?

Consider the bundle. The Einhell kit includes a charger, case, hammer function, and two 1.5 Ah batteries. If you need two packs and impact in the box, that’s strong value. Compare against your required runtime and tasks. [Elektroda, czarny_alibaba, post #17671731]

Lidl sent a black/white PSBSA 20‑Li A1—legit or a limited run?

One buyer received a black‑and‑white PSBSA 20‑Li A1 while the site showed green. They reported it looked identical, with sellers calling it “limited.” Treat it as a color variant unless the listing states otherwise. [Elektroda, irek764, post #18046678]

How do I quickly choose the right drill/driver?

Ask two core questions: what tasks and how often. Then match features.
  1. Define tasks: screwdriving, wood/metal drilling, light masonry, or heavy concrete.
  2. Define frequency: occasional DIY, regular home projects, or pro use.
  3. Map needs: no‑hammer driver, impact driver, or hammer drill; pick battery size accordingly. [Elektroda, SAAX, post #17666926]

Are Parkside tools actually made by Bosch?

A poster claims Parkside is from the Bosch family and comes from the same factory. Treat this as anecdotal without verified sourcing. Focus on model performance and warranty rather than brand lineage claims. [Elektroda, Salmantopman, post #18907797]

Any known weak points on Parkside drivers to watch for?

One user noted the housing can crack at the battery base. They also warned to push the gear selector carefully, as it can sit between gears. Inspect these areas during use and avoid forcing the selector. [Elektroda, Salmantopman, post #18907797]
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