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[Solved] Peugeot 508 1.6thp Misfire: Investigating Errors P1336, P1338, P1340 and Potential Causes

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  • #1 17697536
    Pioter42
    Level 7  
    Hello to all forum members and I am asking for advice.
    1.6 thp engine 80000km mileage in 2014. while driving, the second and fourth cylinders go out, and errors appear at this point
    P1336 - Misfire
    P1338 - Misfire cylinder 2
    P1340 - Misfire cylinder 4
    and errors (these errors seem to me to be a consequence of the first three, i.e. misfiring)
    P0098 - manifold inlet air temperature sensor
    P0033 - Turbocharger bypass valve control circuit
    P16B1 - Controlled air intake module
    P0030 - lambda probe
    After switching off the engine and restarting, the engine works properly, but the errors obviously remain. Spark plugs replaced, ignition coils are operational at 100%.
    My suspicions
    -variator
    - chain
    -tensioner
    Maybe some of you had such problems and will confirm my assumptions or maybe I'm wrong and you need to look for the cause elsewhere ??
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  • #2 17699232
    judi
    Level 14  
    Good. Direct injection is in this unit. He's killing himself with muck at the inlet near the intake valves. You also need to check the compression pressure on a warm engine. Automotive downsizing comes slowly sideways.
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  • #3 17699577
    Pioter42
    Level 7  
    "He's killing himself with muck in the inlet near the intake valves. You also need to check the compression pressure on a warm engine."
    on many forums I see that the diagnosis with these symptoms is either the timing or the dirty upss inlet channels. Judi, but turning off and on the engine will change the pollution of these channels ??? Taking into account the fact that the car starts normally after restarting, faults such as contamination, cracking in the manifold, loose valve seat can be excluded. Due to the fact that I replaced the candles and I postponed the ignition modules, I also exclude these faults. I only have the timing, and more precisely the tensioner, where I would be more tempted towards the variator or something with the fuel supply system. I apologize for such philosophies but I don't know how these devices work, I was still learning mechanics on carburetor cars.
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  • #4 17699871
    judi
    Level 14  
    Due to the fact that great powers and moments are extracted from small units. It is necessary to take into account very small tolerances in the deviations of the engine operating parameters. As you write. Works fine after firing. Records irregularities and boom, end of drive. The cycle of ignition and the fun starts all over again. Because the controller needs time to measure the values of some operating parameters.
  • #5 17699963
    Pioter42
    Level 7  
    Judi, only storingi, I have an impression in the higher part of the revolutions, and after driving at least 20 km. I guess the computer should respond much faster ??? Well, unless I'm wrong.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Anyway, I will check the pressure, and regarding the unit itself, it is also not so small you also have 1.2 pur tech 130km, what do you think about them ???

    Added after 3 [hours] 8 [minutes]:

    So far, I was not able to check the pressure, but I will do it as soon as I get a cure, but I let the camera into the cylinder (shock !!! visible traces of knocking that I have never seen even in a good toddler). Anyway, what I found was oil in both snowmen and I measured the lamda probe and it came out 8.9 and I heard that the correct result is within 4 should be or am I wrong?
  • #6 17705861
    Pioter42
    Level 7  
    Judi, so I measured the pressure and everything is ok on each cylinder 10.5 on the cold and 9.5 on the warm, I am thinking about the lambda probe
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  • #7 17713631
    Pioter42
    Level 7  
    Hello again, everyone. Well, I did a diagbox reading and here's what came out:
    Calculator status: MED17_4_2
    Designation 1: 922159
    Designation 2:
    Current errors: 6
    P1336: Misfire (catalyst influence)
    Characteristics: Cylinder undefined
    Status: permanent error
    Location: local
    Variables associated with the vulnerability
    enrichment control state: closed loop
    Calculated charge value (filling): 030.20%
    Fast enrichment correction (row 1): 17%
    Slow enrichment correction (row 1): 28%
    pressure in the intake manifold: 630 mbar
    Engine speed: 1488 rpm
    vehicle speed: 23 km / h
    accelerator pedal sensor 1 voltage: 1250 mV
    accelerator pedal sensor 2 voltage: 610 mV
    engine condition: engine running
    battery voltage: 14.5V
    engine work: pedal
    measured filling: 45%
    set inlet pressure: 630 mbar
    GEAR SHOWN: Second gear engaged
    Mileage: 80,606 km
    set point of the inlet phase shifter position: -10 | of the shaft
    crankshaft
    Enrichment setpoint: 1,000 mixture composition
    input mixture correction factor: 9%
    inlet camshaft phase shifter position: -10 | of shaft
    crankshaft
    Crankshaft Target Adaption on Deceleration: Done
    inlet pressure measured: 1630 mBar
    nominal filling: 137%
    Intake air temperature: 22 ° C
    pressure setpoint in the petrol manifold: 117 bar
    gasoline manifold pressure: 7 bar
    fuel level: 19 liter
    P1340: Misfire (catalyst influence)
    Characteristic: cylinder No.4 injector
    Status: permanent error
    Location: local
    Variables associated with the vulnerability
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    enrichment control state: closed loop
    Calculated charge value (filling): 030.20%
    Fast enrichment correction (row 1): 17%
    Slow enrichment correction (row 1): 28%
    pressure in the intake manifold: 630 mbar
    Engine speed: 1488 rpm
    vehicle speed: 23 km / h
    accelerator pedal sensor 1 voltage: 1250 mV
    accelerator pedal sensor 2 voltage: 610 mV
    engine condition: engine running
    battery voltage: 14.5V
    engine work: pedal
    measured filling: 45%
    set inlet pressure: 630 mbar
    GEAR SHOWN: Second gear engaged
    Mileage: 80603 km
    set value of the inlet phase shifter position: -3 | shaft
    crankshaft
    Enrichment setpoint: 1,000 mixture composition
    input mixture correction factor: -8%
    position of the intake camshaft phase shifter: -6 | of the shaft
    crankshaft
    Crankshaft Target Adaptation on Deceleration: Done
    inlet pressure measured: 630 mBar
    nominal filling: 45%
    Intake air temperature: 14 ° C
    pressure setpoint in the gasoline manifold: 63 bar
    gasoline manifold pressure: 13 bar
    fuel level: 34 liter
    P0087: Fuel system
    Characteristics: Pressure measured in the injection manifold lower than the set value
    Status: permanent error
    Location: local
    Variables associated with the vulnerability
    enrichment control state: closed loop
    Calculated value of charge (filling): 010.59%
    Fast enrichment correction (row 1): -1%
    Slow enrichment correction (row 1): 28%
    pressure in the intake manifold: 270 mbar
    Engine speed: 1907 rpm
    vehicle speed: 42 km / h
    accelerator pedal sensor 1 voltage: 710 mV
    accelerator pedal sensor 2 voltage: 340 mV
    engine condition: engine running
    battery voltage: 14.5V
    engine work: pedal
    measured filling: 15%
    set inlet pressure: 280 mbar
    GEAR SHOWN: Third gear engaged
    P1337: Misfire (catalyst influence)
    Characteristic: Cylinder No.1 injector
    Status: permanent error
    4 of 37 1/19/2019 19:13
    Location: local
    Variables associated with the vulnerability
    enrichment control state: closed loop
    Calculated value of charge (filling): 065.49%
    Fast enrichment correction (row 1): 28%
    Slow enrichment correction (row 1): 28%
    intake manifold pressure: 1080 mbar
    Engine speed: 1888 rpm
    vehicle speed: 15 km / h
    accelerator pedal sensor 1 voltage: 1720 mV
    accelerator pedal sensor 2 voltage: 840 mV
    engine condition: engine running
    battery voltage: 14.5V
    engine work: pedal
    measured filling: 92%
    set inlet pressure: 1100 mbar
    GEAR SHOWN: First gear engaged
    Mileage: 80,606 km
    set point of the inlet phase shifter position: -10 | of the shaft
    crankshaft
    Enrichment setpoint: 1,000 mixture composition
    input mixture correction factor: 9%
    inlet camshaft phase shifter position: -10 | of shaft
    crankshaft
    Crankshaft Target Adaptation on Deceleration: Done
    inlet pressure measured: 1630 mBar
    nominal filling: 137%
    Intake air temperature: 22 ° C
    pressure setpoint in the petrol manifold: 117 bar
    gasoline manifold pressure: 7 bar
    fuel level: 19 liter
    P1339: Misfire (catalyst influence)
    Characteristic: cylinder no.3 injector
    Status: permanent error
    Location: local
    Variables associated with the vulnerability
    enrichment control state: closed loop
    Calculated value of charge (filling): 065.49%
    Fast enrichment correction (row 1): 28%
    Slow enrichment correction (row 1): 28%
    intake manifold pressure: 1080 mbar
    Engine speed: 1888 rpm
    vehicle speed: 15 km / h
    accelerator pedal sensor 1 voltage: 1720 mV
    accelerator pedal sensor 2 voltage: 840 mV
    engine condition: engine running
    battery voltage: 14.5V
    engine work: pedal
    measured filling: 92%
    set inlet pressure: 1100 mbar
    GEAR SHOWN: First gear engaged
    Mileage: 80,605 km
    set value of the inlet phase shifter position: -7 | shaft
    5 of 37 1/19/2019 19:13
    crankshaft
    Enrichment setpoint: 1,000 mixture composition
    input mixture correction factor: -1%
    inlet camshaft phase shifter position: -8 | shaft
    crankshaft
    Crankshaft Target Adaptation on Deceleration: Done
    inlet pressure measured: 1080 mBar
    nominal filling: 94%
    Intake air temperature: 14 ° C
    pressure setpoint in the gasoline manifold: 118 bar
    gasoline manifold pressure: 15 bar
    fuel level: 25 liter
    P1338: Misfire (catalyst influence)
    Characteristic: cylinder no.2 injector
    Status: permanent error
    Location: local
    Variables associated with the vulnerability
    enrichment control state: closed loop
    Calculated charge value (filling): 100.00%
    Enrichment correction fast (row 1): 38%
    Slow enrichment correction (row 1): 28%
    intake manifold pressure: 1630 mbar
    Engine speed: 2480 rpm
    vehicle speed: 37 km / h
    accelerator pedal sensor 1 voltage: 2670 mV
    accelerator pedal sensor 2 voltage: 1320 mV
    engine condition: engine running
    battery voltage: 14.6V
    engine work: pedal
    measured filling: 141%
    set inlet pressure: 1580 mbar
    GEAR SHOWN: Second gear engaged
    Mileage: 80,606 km
    set point of the inlet phase shifter position: -10 | of the shaft
    crankshaft
    Enrichment setpoint: 1,000 mixture composition
    input mixture correction factor: 9%
    inlet camshaft phase shifter position: -10 | of shaft
    crankshaft
    Crankshaft Target Adaptation on Deceleration: Done
    inlet pressure measured: 1630 mBar
    nominal filling: 137%
    Intake air temperature: 22 ° C
    pressure setpoint in the petrol manifold: 117 bar
    gasoline manifold pressure: 7 bar
    fuel level: 19 liter
    Any tips ???
  • #8 17740500
    Pioter42
    Level 7  
    After a long break, the parts came and the car was repaired. The high pressure pump was the cause of all the fuss.
  • #9 17740502
    Pioter42
    Level 7  
    After a long break, the parts came and the car was repaired. The high pressure pump was the cause of all the fuss.

    Added after 46 [seconds]:

    I consider the topic closed.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a Peugeot 508 with a 1.6 THP engine experiencing misfires in cylinders 2 and 4, indicated by error codes P1336, P1338, and P1340. The user reports that after restarting the engine, it runs normally, but the errors persist. Initial troubleshooting included replacing spark plugs and checking ignition coils, which were found to be operational. Suspicions were raised regarding the variator, timing chain, and tensioner. Responses from forum members suggested checking for carbon buildup near the intake valves and verifying compression pressure. Further diagnostics revealed oil presence in the intake and abnormal lambda probe readings. Ultimately, the issue was traced to a faulty high-pressure pump, which was replaced, resolving the misfire problem.
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