WALL AIR CONDITIONER SINCLAIR VISION ASH-12BIV - is it worth it?

New apartment about 60 sq m
Air-conditioning in the living room with kitchen + open corridor of about 30 sq m

Something like that is recommended by the editor ....

LINK: http://www.sinclair.pl/oferta/klimatyzatory-split/scienne/seria-vision/ash-12biv.html

I'm worried that it is a bit loud, 28dB, which is much more than the 19dB offered by the LG ....

I also competitively found such LG http://klima-sklep.pl/klimatyzacja/13080-klimatyzator-scienny-lg-deluxe-dc12rq.html

I have to decide quickly

I am asking for opinions for and against, because I do not know the subject at all.
I will live alone, the top floor of the window from the north-east, so without the sun.
I also care about supporting heating.
The air-conditioning will be used sporadically when it is hot or cold after returning from a business trip to warm up.

Will I find something better and quieter at this price?
about 3500 PLN with assembly

Urgent matter, thanks in advance for your help

Nobody Nothing?
Any info please ...
Tomorrow I have to make a decision ....

Sinclair is a Chinese Midea. The product is not bad, but it does not sin with technical sophistication. LG stands a bit higher, which can be seen even in the mentioned volume.

As for the failure rate, it is probably similar,
not bad shelf.

Gentlemen, the air conditioning is already hanging, average cooling, I thought it would be more efficient ... but ok ...
The problem is that I want to check all the functions, and after turning on the heating, the air conditioning closes ...

Is it because it's so warm?
Is that some kind of flaw? Because I would like to check it as long as there is a guarantee ...

I do not know about this model, but in Midei devices it is usually the case that heating starts with the chiller defrost cycle and the described behavior fits it. It is summer so defrosts will be over soon.

Why and what for?
Because a Chinese, and why - you would have to ask the yellow ones.

plastifon wrote:

after turning on the heating, the air conditioning closes ...

It's normal. The fan will open and start the fan when the JW exchanger reaches about 35 oC (this limit looks different, depending on the manufacturer)

gag70 wrote:

In Midei appliances, it is usually the case that heating begins with a chiller defrost cycle

This often happens when the control does not take into account the outside temperature in the control algorithm, but works blindly. As for heating, it is not known what happened before and defrosting the JZ exchanger.
Attention. I suggest not to turn on the heating at such outdoor temperatures. Depending on the "wisdom" of automation, this may lead to uninteresting consequences. Including damage (e.g. leakage) of the air conditioner, incl.

And so, out of curiosity, I will ask. Have you read the user manual?

plastifon wrote:

Gentlemen, the air conditioning is already hanging, moderately cool

What is this "cooling average"? You measured the air temperature at the inlet and outlet of the JW.
The difference should be at least 10 ° C at the highest speed of the JW fan.

Of course, I measured and it is even more than 10st around 15, but in the room after about 4 hours of walking on TURBO and setting 23 it was still 26, is it not normal?
Of course, I read the instructions

plastifon wrote:

I measured and it is even more than 10 around 15,

What did you measure? What temp made the difference?
Did you take a second measurement at the end of these 4 hours?

plastifon wrote:

in the room, after about 4 hours of walking on TURBO and setting 23, there were still 26,

I mean where? Enter the measurement point (!) More precisely, because the room is about 30 m2 and probably about 75 m3.

plastifon wrote:

it's not normal, isn't it?

It is difficult to judge from such meager information. You would have to know the situation exactly. For example, were the windows open? Heat gains from e.g. the sun. Air humidity. Temperature distribution. Place of installation of the air conditioner and measurement place. E.t.c.
3.5 kW is not crazy. With hot walls and other heat gains, there may be no effect of temperature changes during this time.
It is not known where JZ is and what conditions prevailed there.
You can only control the temperature difference at the highest (!) Fan speed from time to time and check whether the inlet temperature drops.

I measured the temperature at the outlet with a room thermometer, earlier I read the ambient temperature and the temperature dropped about 15 degrees
Living room with a kitchen about 25 sq m
Windows from the north and east, there was no sun
The windows are closed
The bedroom door is locked
Brand new apartment building, 25 cm of polystyrene insulation on the walls
Top floor, roof insulated with 25 cm polystyrene

I measured the temp where I sit about 5 meters from the air conditioning in the living room.

It is interesting that it recognizes the ambient temperature even higher than it is on the thermometer

The thermometer shows 26 and the indoor climate shows 28

plastifon wrote:

I measured the temperature at the outlet with a room thermometer, earlier I read the ambient temperature and the temperature dropped around 15

jack63 wrote:

You measured the air temperature at the inlet and outlet of the JW.

Can't you see the difference ??? By the way, JW is an indoor unit of an air conditioner.
As you can see, the air conditioner is smarter than you because it shows 28 and you measured 26.
If the JW displays the measured temperature, it is enough to measure the air temperature (!) At the outlet.
The room thermometer, depending on which one, is not exact.
It turns out that the heat is ok. Assuming that the JW fan runs at max. You don't write anything about fan speed!

plastifon wrote:

I measured the temp where I sit about 5 meters from the air conditioning in the living room.

How high is it from the floor and how is it to the air stream from the Military Unit?
There is no such thing as "room temperature"!
It can be medium or at a specific point in the room. At each point inside @ v and the room temp is different.

Temp measured on the table, i.e. about 60 cm from the floor
A stream directed in this direction
TURBO fan, so I assume! That it is max.

Well, if he's wiser, it's even worse
Because since I set 23, he cooled down in 4 hours only by 2 degrees?

plastifon wrote:

Well, if it's wiser, it's even worse
Because since I set 23, he cooled down in 4 hours only by 2 degrees?

He's smarter, but unfortunately weak, and your expectations are too high. Maybe you had to wait longer?
The walls have accumulated a lot of heat and it takes time to stop heating the room. In addition, the "cold" must "spread throughout the room". It all goes on.

plastifon wrote:

TURBO fan, so I assume! That it is max.

Turbo applies to the fan itself or the air conditioner as a whole, and it's not the same.
Set the fan to last gear manually from the remote control. Target temperature at 24 - 25 oC. I always do that. Keep in mind that this temperature is measured in the air conditioner itself, which is quite high. After the room has cooled down (!), The temperature at the table level may be 2-3 degrees lower.
To make sure that the air conditioner is working properly, measure the outlet temperature about half an hour after turning it on and every hour.
If you want to maintain the average room temperature, do not switch it off for a long time. It will turn off the compressor itself or minimize the power consumption when the temperature measured by it is approx.
The basic mistake that users make is to turn on the air conditioner when they return to a warm apartment. This must be done in advance. Sometimes several hours. That's what the timer is for. Then you come back to the cooled apartment and the energy consumption is optimal.
In addition to testing operation, it is better to set the fan to auto.

Good point, she has wifi and the applications have to take care of it and I will turn on remotely for 3-4 hours before returning
Similarly with heating.

And I have another question
How the air condition works in AUTO mode, not the blower, but the whole air condition in general
There is such a mode but it is not very described
I am to understand that it decides when to heat and when to cool?

Or how?

plastifon wrote:

How the air condition works in AUTO mode, not the blower, but the whole air condition in general

It does everything it can to maintain the set temperature. Cools, heats, blows, ties ties ...

plastifon wrote:

I am to understand that it decides when to heat and when to cool?

Yes. As a rule, although it depends on the manufacturer, it takes place within + - 2 oC from the setting. When it is above 2 oC from the supercharger, it cools down to the set point. When it drops below 2oC from the setpoint, it switches to heating and heats up to the setpoint.
The point is not to be overwhelmed by too frequent change of work mode, because it takes a lot of time.

Approx
Only in the AUTO mode I cannot set anything, not even the temperature.
So what temperature will it maintain?

plastifon wrote:

So what temperature will it maintain?

Read in the manual ...
As a rule, the "middle" temperature, which I wrote about above, is 24-25 oC if it cannot be changed.
Such a charm of the Chinese. They generally have poor driver software. Fewer temperature sensors and everything is "optimized" to ... somehow work.
Often there is even no security that can be implemented programmatically. For example, a loss of refrigerant or a compressor breakdown can be very approximated by temperature measurements, but it is not.

Today
I was looking in the hotel air conditioning and after pressing this triangle with arrows, i.e. I suppose full automatic, it displays 20. Well, it's a bit cold, I guess?
And also it cannot be changed from the remote control

GREE company here

The hotel may have systems consisting of many indoor units and one or two units. The so-called VRV. Then there is a central controller and the visitor may have limited room for maneuver.
Anyway, it is not known what you pressed and how it works?

I checked in the manual and there is nothing about the AUTO mode.

Yes, I do not fully understand how it works, can someone explain?

plastifon wrote:

I checked in the manual and there is nothing about the AUTO mode.

In the manual what ??? Enter the type of device, because it is not known whether you mean a hotel device or the topic?

Of course it's a Sinclair device ... which I have at home

How is it no auto mode?
According to the Polish (!) Instructions, you have:
Mode indicator (MODE)
informs about the current operating mode:
Automatic
/ Cooling /
Drainage
/ Ventilation
/
Heating (only in units
equipped with this function)
Check at yourself.
The service manual says:
When selecting auto mode, air conditioner will operate automatically according to ex-factory setting. Set temperature cant be adjusted and
will not be displayed as well.

I know, I've seen ...
But it is not explained how it works

What does it mean that it will work in AUTO mode?
I understand that it has to keep the temperature, if you need to heat it, if you need to cool it
But on what parameters? Which functions does it use! What about ionization, what about dehumidification, what fan mode?

Added after 5 [minutes]:

Well, there is nothing about what these ExFactory settings are
Even in the DTR as I checked

plastifon wrote:

there is nothing about what these ExFactory settings are

Ask the manufacturer a question ....
This is a disgrace, because for other Chinese it is given, but usually only in the service center, information about how this mode works, and here's a doopa ...
This is the equipment you have chosen, this is what you have ....