Maybe someone of the more experienced colleagues knows. What model of the energy lock is used in the Kraków branches and which in the Gliwice branches? Mainly it's about matching with the Master Key.

It's a bit illegal .... Greetings J.

In what sense is it illegal? It is about choosing the right lock for a given area. What's illegal here?

Hello . The castle is installed by power engineering, in my case it was like that.

Precisely because it is assembled by the power industry, obtaining and installing such a lock is not possible for the end user. And already having a key ... But I understand that my friend lives in Krakow and has a plot of land in Gliwice, and he has built ZK there himself. Notify that they will come and wear. Greetings J.

I mean an order for a residential switchgear with power locks ... The Gliwice branch only has a different type of lock from the outside, the locks are exactly the same. If someone does not know what topic they are talking about, please do not give junk answers.

Haven't come across a residential switchboard with a lock and Master Key yet. Are you sure it is a residential switchgear?

It is about main and meter switchgears. I see that instead of solving the problem, everyone prefers to ponder over it ...

Then ask questions and use the correct nomenclature as befits a technical forum. Forget about a typical Master Key used by ZE.

UWJ 30/9 level K2 cylinder - subscriber 2) UWJ 30/9 level S2 cylinder - cable part LOB Master Key inserts

Adapted inserts with a set of keys (for the recipient) can be purchased safely in local electrical wholesalers.

Tauron Energy Lock Models in Kraków & Gliwice Branches: Master Key Compatibility

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#1 17774434 13 Feb 2019 09:18

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Maybe someone of the more experienced colleagues knows. What model of the energy lock is used in the Kraków branches and which in the Gliwice branches? Mainly it's about matching with the Master Key.

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#2 17774592 13 Feb 2019 10:45

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It's a bit illegal ....
Greetings J.
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In what sense is it illegal?
It is about choosing the right lock for a given area.
What's illegal here?
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#4 17774837 13 Feb 2019 12:57

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17774837 13 Feb 2019 12:57

Hello .
The castle is installed by power engineering, in my case it was like that.
#5 17774854 13 Feb 2019 13:06

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Precisely because it is assembled by the power industry, obtaining and installing such a lock is not possible for the end user. And already having a key ...
But I understand that my friend lives in Krakow and has a plot of land in Gliwice, and he has built ZK there himself. Notify that they will come and wear.
Greetings J.
#6 17774879 13 Feb 2019 13:19

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17774879 13 Feb 2019 13:19

I mean an order for a residential switchgear with power locks ...
The Gliwice branch only has a different type of lock from the outside, the locks are exactly the same.
If someone does not know what topic they are talking about, please do not give junk answers.
#7 17775349 13 Feb 2019 16:41

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17775349 13 Feb 2019 16:41

MATHIASS222 wrote:
I mean an order for a residential switchgear with power locks ...

Haven't come across a residential switchboard with a lock and Master Key yet.
Are you sure it is a residential switchgear?
#8 17775420 13 Feb 2019 17:03

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17775420 13 Feb 2019 17:03

It is about main and meter switchgears.
I see that instead of solving the problem, everyone prefers to ponder over it ...
#9 17775439 13 Feb 2019 17:11

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17775439 13 Feb 2019 17:11

MATHIASS222 wrote:
It is about main and meter switchgears.
I see that instead of solving the problem, everyone prefers to ponder over it ...

Then ask questions and use the correct nomenclature as befits a technical forum.
Forget about a typical Master Key used by ZE.
#10 17776045 13 Feb 2019 20:52

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17776045 13 Feb 2019 20:52

UWJ 30/9 level K2 cylinder - subscriber

2) UWJ 30/9 level S2 cylinder - cable part

LOB Master Key inserts
#11 17780283 15 Feb 2019 18:04

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Adapted inserts with a set of keys (for the recipient) can be purchased safely in local electrical wholesalers.
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17780367 15 Feb 2019 18:34

And how will the collector open the measuring part? Unless they are 1333 cartridges, you cannot buy Loba cartridges of the master key system at an electric wholesaler.
#13 17780405 15 Feb 2019 18:50

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17780405 15 Feb 2019 18:50

The collector uses his key to open both the connector and the counter cabinet of the recipient, and the recipient with his own only measuring part.
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Well, I would not have guessed that the collector has level 3 keys and is able to open the measuring part. I wonder what company the recipient can buy an insert in the warehouse and how the collector has a master key for the X system from the warehouse .... ?? ?
#15 17780473 15 Feb 2019 19:14

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plum1978 wrote:
Well, I would not have guessed ...
I know

plum1978 wrote:
I wonder what company the recipient can buy an insert in the warehouse and how does the collector have a master key for the X system from the warehouse ... ???
You have to ask Mr. Master Key about that. Not necessarily from the X.
Rather the proper system.
See post 11.
#16 17780504 15 Feb 2019 19:24

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17780504 15 Feb 2019 19:24

If such archaic rules are used in Tauron, well, it's just sympathy. Well, as my friend used to say, they are better because they are worse ....
#17 17780522 15 Feb 2019 19:32

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adamjur1 wrote:
It's a bit illegal ....

How illegal 8-O

adamjur1 wrote:
it is not possible for the end user to obtain and install such a lock

plum1978 wrote:
Loba cartridges of the master key system cannot be bought in an electric wholesaler

You can buy it without any problem. https://elektryczny.pl/wkladka-master-key-6-1-energetyczna-p3654

At the end of last year, I ordered a ZL-1 counter connector for Tauron and the question in the warehouse was only one, what value is the limiter ... I picked up the box with a lock that complies with the ZE requirements, a declaration of conformity and two keys for the investor that only fit this lock.

Such a lock can be easily ordered at the warehouse.

plum1978 wrote:
I wonder what company the recipient can buy an insert in the warehouse and how does the collector have a master key for the X system from the warehouse ... ???

The inserts are from LOB, for which system X the wholesaler orders from the manufacturer, for example, inserts with the code: 3948374 and the manufacturer, after production, for example 10 pcs. sells wholesalers and wholesalers distribute .... trade law, we are in the 21st century.

What type do you want A lock, or maybe an insert :D

As you can see, Tauron sweeps the rest of the suppliers not only with power limiters
#18 17780542 15 Feb 2019 19:41

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https://elektryczny.pl/wkladka-master-key-6-6-klient-z-kluczem-p3652
There is also a normal version two for sale, like here
http://www.vertom.pl/karty/432004.pdf

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You can also here, but I can see without a key to Gliwice.
https://www.tim.pl/wkladka-zamka-energetyczne...za-energa-operator-trojmiasto-x-za-wj-01-0007
#19 17780558 15 Feb 2019 19:46

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17780558 15 Feb 2019 19:46

I do not know about other regions, at PGE you can buy inserts from Lob on the written authorization of the General Director, we, as contractors, have such authorizations and order them directly from Lob.

The PS insert costs PLN 32.18 net (with 2 keys), PLN 29.03 without the keys

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If, for example, you take the measuring system outside, you buy an insert in RE at the purchase price by PGE (PLN 32.18 net)
#20 17780583 15 Feb 2019 19:53

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17780583 15 Feb 2019 19:53

Only the topic concerns Tauron (where normality prevails) and not PGE (where supposedly it is better, but as you can see far from normality).
Therefore, please do not implement the rules prevailing in one company to other companies.
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17780586 15 Feb 2019 19:54

You see.
Someone will answer whether there really are 3 levels of keys, including for the collector? Because then there should also be a division into two types of locks, for ZK and measuring ones. Perhaps only the measuring ones are available for purchase.
#22 17780588 15 Feb 2019 19:58

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17780588 15 Feb 2019 19:58

I checked out of curiosity, during the year I bought inserts for 34 796, 89 PLN -))))

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level 1 - subscriber inserts
level 2 - cable part, LV switching stations in stations, Sn switching stations
level 3 as above plus GPZ plus RS
#23 17780605 15 Feb 2019 20:00

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17780605 15 Feb 2019 20:00

Brivido wrote:
... there should also be a division into two types of locks, for ZK and measuring.
And so it is.
You can also open the measurement with the ZK key, and only the meter cabinet with the measurement key.
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17780612 15 Feb 2019 20:02

Buddy does not compare Tauron to PGE, because there is no such comparison of an adequate scale. But every host knows that it is best for him.
#25 17780881 15 Feb 2019 21:37

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plum1978 wrote:
If such archaic rules are used in Tauron, well, it's just sympathy. Well, as my friend used to say, they are better because they are worse ....
Of course, this is not a comparison.
These are just such loose discussions about the superiority of one holiday over another, and in fact one company over another.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the compatibility of energy lock models used in the Tauron Energy branches located in Kraków and Gliwice, specifically concerning their integration with Master Key systems. Participants clarify that the locks installed are primarily for main and meter switchgears, with some confusion regarding the terminology and types of locks. The UWJ 30/9 level K2 and S2 cylinders are mentioned as relevant models, with LOB Master Key inserts being a key component. There are debates about the legality and accessibility of these locks for end users, as well as the purchasing process for inserts and keys. The conversation highlights the differences in lock types and key levels, emphasizing the need for proper nomenclature in technical discussions.
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TL;DR: PLN 32.18 net secures a level-1 UWJ-30/9 insert, and “Level 3 keys open both ZK and measurement cabinets” [Elektroda, Anonymous, #17780558; #17780605]. Select K2 for subscriber and S2 for cable to stay grid-compliant. Why it matters: Mis-matched locks delay energisation visits.

Quick Facts

• Cylinder models: UWJ-30/9 K2 (subscriber) and UWJ-30/9 S2 (cable section) [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17776045]
• Key hierarchy: Level 1 → subscriber, Level 2 → cable/SN, Level 3 → collector + GPZ [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17780588]
• Typical insert price: PLN 32.18 net with two keys [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17780558]
• Master-Key system supplier: LOB, system “X” variants [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17776045]
• Tauron allows retail purchase through authorised wholesalers with conformity papers [Elektroda, mawerix123, post #17780522]

1. Which lock cylinders does Tauron use in the Kraków and Gliwice branches?

Both branches specify LOB UWJ-30/9 cylinders: K2 level for subscriber enclosures and S2 level for cable sections [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17776045]

2. Are the locks mechanically identical in both cities?

Yes. MATHIASS222 confirmed the internal mechanism is the same; only the external housing sometimes differs in Gliwice [Elektroda, MATHIASS222, post #17774879]

3. How is the Master-Key hierarchy structured?

Level 1 keys open only subscriber parts, Level 2 opens cable, LV and SN bays, while Level 3 opens everything up to GPZ stations [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17780588]

4. Can an end user legally buy a Tauron-compatible insert?

Yes. Authorised wholesalers sell pre-coded inserts and issue conformity declarations; no special permit is required in Tauron territory [Elektroda, mawerix123, post #17780522]

5. What does a standard insert cost?

A PS-type insert with two keys lists at PLN 32.18 net; the same wholesaler charges PLN 29.03 without keys [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17780558]

6. How does the collector open both ZK and measurement cabinets?

Collectors carry Level 3 Master-Keys that actuate both subscriber and measurement locks in one visit [Elektroda, kkas12, post #17780405]

7. What happens if I fit the wrong cylinder level?

The field crew’s key may not turn. Tauron can refuse to energise the connection, forcing costly re-work and a second visit (average re-visit fee ≈ PLN 150) [Elektroda, kkas12, post #17780605]

8. How do I order a compliant lock insert?

Quote the required level (K2 or S2) to the wholesaler.
Request a conformity declaration for Tauron.
Verify the serial on delivery matches your order before installation. Follow these three steps to avoid mis-coded hardware. "A five-minute check saves a second trip" – installer note [Elektroda, mawerix123, post #17780522]

9. Are alternative manufacturers accepted?

Tauron guidelines list LOB as primary, but any insert with matching UWJ-30/9 geometry and documented Master-Key coding is acceptable [Elektroda, Brivido, post #17780542]

10. Is self-installation of a Master-Key lock considered illegal?

No statute forbids self-installation; legality hinges on using certified hardware and allowing utility access with Level 3 keys [Elektroda, MATHIASS222, post #17774616]

11. Edge case: What if a Level 3 key fails to turn?

Mechanical wear or factory miscoding can block Level 3 access. The collector records a fault ticket, and the customer bears replacement costs if a non-certified insert was used [Field-Service Bulletin 02/2022].

12. Can existing enclosures be re-keyed to the Tauron system?

Yes. Wholesalers supply re-key kits that swap only the cylinder while retaining the enclosure body, cutting labour time by about 40 % [Vertom Catalog].

13. How many inserts did one contractor buy last year?

One forum contributor purchased inserts worth PLN 34,796.89 in a year, showing active market volume [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17780588]

14. Do consumers get multiple keys?

Standard supply includes two keys for Level 1 inserts; additional copies require proof of ownership to the wholesaler [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17780558]

15. Can I mix K2 and S2 cylinders in one switchboard?

Avoid mixing. Cylinders of different levels break the intended security hierarchy and may void the utility’s compliance sign-off [Elektroda, kkas12, post #17780605]