Photovoltaic panels from IKEA, is it worth it or better from another company?

Hello all.
I would like to get an opinion whether it is worth buying Ikea panels that are cheaper for Ikea customers or is it better to add cash and buy pavement or qcells panels?

Why add it? Ikea's offer, from what I can see, is over PLN 4,000 / kWp.

I talked to a consultant and for 4.5kWp installations he calculated PLN 22,500 for me, while another company charged me PLN 28,000 for pavement panels of 4.5kWp

Pavement is not a miracle, additionally expensive.

310W brand panels cost PLN 590 (e.g. Longi), a 5kW inverter about PLN 5000, other elements max 2000-3000, installation should not cost more than PLN 2000. Retail prices.
In total, about PLN 20,000, including 23% VAT, as the installation on the roof is 15% cheaper, i.e. PLN 17,000. Everything above is the installer's margin.

310W cobblets are for PLN 690 each, which is the same installation PLN 1500 more expensive.

There are installations on Longi + Fronius on the Allegro for 24k 6kW and 22k 5kW.

At Ikea, you have very good customer service, a long warranty and no retailer bothering when something is not working. Door to door service and hassle-free repairs.

So it's better to choose Ikea?
And if I decided to choose another company, what panels do you recommend? One company offers LG360W because after 25 years the panels produce 324W, i.e. 90% of their original power. Others have 80-85% at least they say.

Romanoooo wrote:

So it's better to choose Ikea?
And if I decided to choose another company, what panels do you recommend? One company offers LG360W because after 25 years the panels produce 324W, i.e. 90% of their original power. Others have 80-85% at least they say.

90% ... are these panels on the market enough to test it? I would rather not look at this value. Look at the quality of workmanship, "massiveness", thickness of the glass, frames, etc.

What do you recommend?

I chose double glass panels for the first batch: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3563883.html
But in Poland nobody is selling them.

Installations at IKEA are made by Geo Solar, I can recommend a very professional approach.
Of course, CenaCzyniCuda is so I chose a company that, in addition to the guarantee, gave a good price, and I managed to get better conditions than local companies offered.
It is best to search for contractors on portals (olx, alledrogo) and send inquiries.

The problem of IKEA, as well as other installers, even with the family card, i.e. a 15% discount, it comes out over a 10,000 mark-up for assembly and 23% VAT, and they count 8%, i.e. they take out 15% from the materials, i.e. the sum is May for assembly some 13,000 For the assembly which they will probably make such money in 1 day? I am paying the builders who have a harvest anyway and high prices of 13,000, I am paying for the renovation of a 50m2 flat, where they sit in 2-3 weeks on it for 5-6 weeks ...
As ACCeL calculated, everything closes as he wrote, in addition, it is 23% vat, passing it through any service company, they even add pkd for free, an additional 15% less will come out of us. If we deduct what you can from the tax, you can safely count that the installation costs will be recovered in 5 years, and this is already good. By assembly companies, the returns are at the level of 8 or even 10 or 12 years as in columbus ...
Besides, we have guarantees for each element from the seller and then from the distributor-manufacturer. If someone has any idea about construction or electricity, it is with the help of an ordinary electrician who will connect it and on applying for his / her qualifications, maybe with 200-500 PLN.

This is what I am going to do now, because when the installers came, or rather traders, after 5 audit meetings, I did not want to listen to this marketing pulp that nothing came from ... the best thing is that they do not provide specific prices for the material in the valuations for assembly. I have not met such guerrillas for a long time, and I work a lot in services, renovation and installation. An ordinary electrician immediately gives the price of labor from a point or the entire network + materials, and does not throw the price from space for the whole ...

Hello,

Do you know if in the case of self-assembly, and then checking the installation and signing the papers by an electrician with permissions (exactly - what? Or SEP or something specifically under FV?), There may be any problems with Tauron when replacing the meter, contract, etc.? Also, when it comes to the 5000 return from the My Electricity program - can they be causing problems here? Because then the invoice would only be for the purchase of materials.

Tauron does not have any problems with self-assembly if everything is correct in the documents. Unfortunately, for the "My Current" program, you need to have invoices for everything, including assembly and (apparently) there is only one approach to the program.

There are supposed to be changes in the My Current program from the 14th, but if you do not have permission, it will not help you. Look for some electric company that will invoice for the installation.

I warn you against working with IKEA Geo Solar. They carried out an audit for me, we signed a contract for the installation of panels, I made an advance payment. Then the company itself withdrew from the contract, and I cannot ask for a refund of the advance payment in the amount of PLN 4,600. ]

Note on GEO-solar, I made an advance payment of over 7,000 and after two months
deception that the installation in a week will be
I found out that I will wait a month for some bolts.
Unreliable company and large initial costs: audit PLN 200 (not returned)
The chimney sweep's opinion is PLN 300
Roof opinion PLN 300

I confirm Geo Solar is a failure. For 2 weeks I was deceived. After a positive credit decision, the bank lady said that I should wait for a contact from the above-mentioned company. After 2 weeks and several attempts to call the company - nobody knows anything about me. There was no report from the bank. Some began to blame others.
I gave up because such an approach to the client bodes for circuses.

I also had a bad experience with Geo-Solar. I applied on September 11 - I had panels on October 30. Later, 2 weeks of waiting for the email with the documents to be sent to Tauron. 30 days to replace the meter (Tauron also has obsuwy) and 2 weeks to send a certificate of its replacement.
Today is January 31 and so far I have not received a refund for the audit.

No contact after reporting via the form, no contact after paying for the audit, no audit on time (someone was sick, but no one called with an explanation), the audit was a bit of a shame because no interview about a possible future increase in energy needs, oversized inverter. The only positive is the efficient assembly team - to the point, quickly and to the point. But they have several, so you can hit differently.
There is only one person working on the hotline, who is not able to comprehend everything on his own, promises to arrange something there and call back and never call back. And so on ...

Only due to the fact that I was calling there practically every day, including complaints to Ikea, I managed to meet the deadline for the first wave of subsidies.

ACCel is IKEA installed with you or not, because I don't know anymore?
Do you mean everything? Installed well?

What would be the cost at IKEA for 8kW?
Please let me know if you know people who have IKEA solar panels from GEO Soloar?

For me, the cost for 8.7kW is 40,000.

For me, from another company, 5.5kW for 26700 from IKEA was supposed to be 32000

I do not know where this valuation came from, because in the end you had a price for 1kW more than me from Ikea.

my quote from ikea was from september 2019 and solaredge solar longi panels inverter

Maybe you pre-overestimate the inverter like me? Are you generally satisfied? What's your production in January?

46.77 kWh from 20.02 from 9.00

https://forum.trojmiasto.pl/Solary-i-inne-Dofinansowanie-t263568,4,42.html

I would rather look for specialists, not IKEA

But it is not IKEA that installs and you do not sign the contract with IKEA. They brand it and make sure that it is good

I would choose IKEA

Hello. I warn you against buying panels in cooperation with IKEA. IKEA is only an intermediary, it is not responsible for anything, you sign a direct contract with a third company. In my case it was GEOSOLAR. Geosolar did not install anything, but took subcontractors in turn. As of today, the company does not install panels anymore, but supervises our installations via the Internet. You can check for yourself what the cut version of their website looks like. At that moment, IKEA changed the company to Foton Technik and left us to GEOSOLAR, the bush company. The same is probably the case with a new partner company, without checking, without guarantee, just to squeeze in more expensive goods. How many thousand installations have they squeezed into us Under the banner of IKEA? I hope that for the next 5-10 years I will not have a breakdown, because I do not count on the warranty anymore.