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  • Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell
    Here you will find a practical comparison of the characteristics of online (VFI) and offline - line interactive (AVR) UPSs. Devices Micropower 1000VA and RTII 1000VA provided by the manufacturer Green Cell . We will not cover the basics of UPS here, but will focus on practical trials and experiments with this equipment. Basic information about uninterruptible power supplies can be found here: all about UPS .

    We will look inside both shared devices and compare their internal construction. In the material you will also find videos recorded during tests and after opening the housing of the devices.

    Offline line-interactive UPS Green Cell Micropower 1000VA
    According to the manufacturer's specification, it is a UPS with an output power of 1000VA / 600W. The energy for emergency operation is stored in two serially connected AGM 12V/7Ah batteries. In UPSs of this class, a single 12V battery is often used. The increased voltage allows you to work with less current discharging the batteries, we also get more Wh. For own needs, the emergency power supply consumes 20-50W (depending on the battery charge level). The design of the device is compact, the UPS is quiet (no forced cooling), but it is worth providing it with good ventilation to, among others extend battery life. The backlit LCD display is very readable and provides information about the operating mode, input and output voltage, battery charge level, power received from the UPS. The device has only one on/off button. Perhaps an additional UPS/battery test button would be useful?

    Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell

    On the back of the UPS there are two types of sockets, which will be especially useful in home applications, where, apart from IEC C-13 plugs, we often meet Schuko plugs. On the rear wall there is an input circuit fuse, a USB connector for communication with the software and a surge protector with an 8P8C (RJ45) connector. In the arrester, pins 1-6 are connected, pins 4-5 are swapped. The construction is based on diodes and varistors. It can be assumed that it is a protector dedicated to FastEthernet and telecommunication devices, e.g. ADSL modems.

    Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell

    Softwareimplements the assumed functions, but in my opinion, the application interface can be slightly refreshed in the future:
    Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell

    Offline UPS practice tests
    A characteristic feature of offline UPSs is a short break in the power supply to the loads after a power outage. This is related to (usually) relay disconnection of the load from the network, activation of the emergency voltage source and switching the load to a new power source. Similarly, the return to mains voltage requires switching operations using relays. The switching time usually does not exceed 10ms.

    This is how the offline UPS is switched from mains to battery operation and back to mains:
    Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell

    The short-term interruption in the power supply of the loads during switching to battery operation, typical for an offline UPS, should not affect the operation of the connected devices with lower power (due to the energy stored in the "excess capacities" of the power supply systems of these devices). For more powerful devices and critical loads, it is better to use an online UPS. In short: a low-power network switch, CCTV recorder, and even a small NAS or computer should not "notice" a power outage. However, for devices that are critical for the functioning of the company and consume more power, e.g. a disk array, a PoE switch that powers a dozen or even several dozen devices, it is better to use an online UPS. This is a very general rule with exceptions, but you have to start somewhere when choosing an uninterruptible power supply. Offline UPSs usually have a simpler design, lower power and also a lower price than online UPSs. Simple offline UPSs usually do not have the ability to connect external batteries to extend operation after a power outage.

    The offline UPS does not convert energy during mains operation (except in AVR mode), resulting in high efficiency. The power input is connected by a relay to the output, while the losses are mainly powering the UPS electronics and charging the battery. To compare the device with the UPS online, you can estimate its efficiency at different powers consumed by the loads. The increase in "efficiency" at higher powers will mainly result from the decreasing share of power for UPS's own needs in the total power drawn from the grid. A very "rough" estimate, but it will give us a comparison with online devices.

    Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell

    At the input, we estimate the active power using a wattmeter (and we control the apparent power with multimeters to verify that the indications of a not very accurate wattmeter are in the correct order of magnitude). At the output, we measure the apparent power, since the receiver is resistive, we can assume that VA ~ W. The results will of course be different when the battery charger starts working. The estimation was carried out with charged batteries (i.e. typical UPS operating conditions). Anywaywe get an efficiency range of 85-96%, which should come as no surprise when we know how the device works.

    The declared power of 600W was taken from the UPS, but in the picture you can see the power consumption of 800W at the input - what happened then?
    The UPS reacted properly and after a while turned off the power to the loads. This possibility of momentary overload is very important when, for example, we connect a device with a large value of input capacitance and high current during switching on.

    Operation of the AVR system in an offline line-interactive UPS
    The output voltage regulation system can be compared to an autotransformer connected at the output of the device. Depending on the input voltage, you can add the voltage to the output or subtract it when the input voltage is too high. The added or subtracted voltage during the tests was ~37V.
    In the case of the tested device, three operating states with input voltage can be distinguished:
    Input voltage 210-255V: input connected to the output via relays.
    Input voltage 209-175V: Active AVR output voltage 246-205V.
    Input voltage >255V : active AVR system output voltage >218V.

    The transition to battery operation takes place at the input voltage

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    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:

    Regarding the article itself - at home, UPSs are rather used not to support the power supply of, for example, a computer, because what gives anyone these 3 minutes, only mainly as a surge protection. I myself consider UPS in on-line topology (with double conversion) to be the best possible surge protection you can get. In fact, there is no option that the overvoltage will pass through the UPS and reach the computer, because it will first destroy the converters in the UPS, which will most likely short-circuit the network. Of course, it is about overvoltages flowing through the network, and not, for example, electromagnetic waves from a nearby lightning strike.


    I use EVER UPS with pure sine at home.

    Attached, older battery than the car gives a working time of more than an hour.

    The maintenance is most useful because I have a large RAID matrix which can be harmful to such power cycles.
    During a storm, he was able to switch because the lights dimmed.

    Sometimes it happens that I turn on the welder (insufficient soft-start) and throw out the fuses. Then he also saves the situation.

    I have not used the backup for more than a few minutes.

    Once upon a time there was only a power outage during a storm, but it was also not more than a few minutes.
    I had internet all the time because the switch and modem were also powered by UPS.


    And you can do "poverty online" quite cheaply.
    Buy used offline without batteries (with cold start function), transformer or high-power switching power supply for 12-14V (or 24V for more power) and a battery / large bank of capacitors.

    It is only worth oversizing such a UPS, because the transistors and the transformer may not withstand continuous operation. Alternatively, improve cooling.

    Such offline UPS is sometimes thrown away by companies for free, just because the batteries have died.
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    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    pawelr98 wrote:
    Such offline UPS is sometimes thrown away by companies for free, just because the batteries have died.

    There is plenty of it on the Allegro. Unfortunately, due to the lack of batteries, the seller is not even able to determine (or does not want to / does not know) whether the rest is operational. I got stuck once, although I lost PLN 40.


    For the transformer itself, sometimes it's worth it.

    I got a UPS for free with a 1kVA indel transformer inside.
    Thick as hell wire, around 15V at the output (UPS had a 24V battery).

    My uncle also told me that he had a UPS with a 4kVA transformer for scrap.
    On such, you can play a welder or assist with starting.

    These transformers have a slightly small core for the power (because they are only supposed to work for a few minutes) but are still worth attention. It is enough to lower the power by these 30-few% and they will work reliably continuously.

    One thing that annoys me about my UPS is the problems running dedicated software on Linux.
    This is where you can set the computer to automatically turn off after a few minutes without power.

    While the break of more than an hour has not happened yet, I prefer to blow it cold and have the computer turned off after these 15-20 minutes, because this length of the break rather heralds a more serious problem than a short voltage dip.
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    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    pawelr98 wrote:
    Sometimes it's worth it for the transformer itself.

    I prefer MOTs for such games :) The core takes apart easily, I do whatever I want and assemble the core. I don't want to play with winding the toroid with a thick wire.
    I like to buy transformers at Allegro auctions, some OLXs. The prices are downright penny. For example, I once bought this:
    TOROIDAL TRANSFORMER 500VA 2x30V / 2x60V 4A, and PLN 67 plus 8 shipping.

    Now I am looking for a 230V / 230V, 50VA isolation transformer for an oscilloscope, but it's hard to get a cheap one.


    But MOTs have a high idle current (I measured 4.5A on my welding machine) and are wound with aluminum.
    And for this often welded.

    Meanwhile, the transformer from the UPS has a rather normal no-load current.

    In UPSs, they are not only toroids (which are the easiest way to wind up, because you don't have to disassemble anything), but very often also EI cores.
    1kVA in the EI version is a nice block.

    Some 650VA toroid from a UPS is in my place in a transistor amplifier.
    120W at 30V, which with a factor of 1.6 gives us the same 200VA.
    When I was buying it, I assumed that I would use 300-400VA at the maximum.

    Dimensionally, it is slightly larger than the TST300 (I compared it physically), so the continuous power is probably 400-450VA.

    Computer UPSs equipped with external large batteries are a frequent alternative to expensive backup systems, for example CO systems.
    Dedicated equipment can be many times more expensive than a self-made one.

    The comparison of the transformer indicates a reduction of 30% but as a whole unit I would take a 50% correction because I would not trust whether all the rest (keying transistors, diodes, etc.) will work reliably with a long working time.
    The tight packing of the elements is also not optimistic.

    Mine has 700VA / 420W (EVER ECO Pro 700 CDS) and during long-term tests (after 30 minutes) with a load of about 150W it was getting warmer (housing).
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    @ Kraniec_Internetów the matter with the power supply from the UPS (without the sine wave at the output) of the APFC power supplies is interesting, I still have access to the tested equipment and I can check in practice whether any effects will appear. What pattern of the experiment do you propose, maybe we can check it?
    We will also wait for a response from the R&D team, although an amendment must be made for the holiday period.

    Even a short power backup gives a lot (saving the effect of work, automatic safe shutdown of the system), as well as no restart of devices during short-term power outages (frequent during strong storms and storms).

    As for overvoltage protection, although UPSs can do a lot of good, formally they should be treated as a D-type arrester, which should be preceded by C, B, A, or B + C, A arresters (A-arrester is known "on the pole").

    @ pawelr98 what kind of pure sine UPS is it: online or offline, can the charger handle a car battery?

    As for the software, if there is a problem with Linux, theoretically in amateur conditions you could make a DIY module that would retrieve information about the UPS status and send it with "our" protocol via UART (eg emulated to USB). Adding a halt command call handler after noticing a specific message on the serial console should not be a problem. It is also possible to implement such communication via IP, e.g. using ENC28J60 or another module.

    In the topic of CO pumps for induction motors, it would be good to keep the sine at the output + the signal for the furnace controller that the batteries are about to run out.
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    @ Kraniec_Internetów Business @Green# Cell is on the forum, they replied in the second thread:
    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3607458.html#18123766
    You will also probably get the info directly, but from my side possibly the results of practical tests, we have the equipment by the end of the week.

    According to your idea, I will try to check the shapes of currents and voltages when powering the APFC converter from a rectangle.

    As for the protectors, I will stick to the "official" rules, ie the UPS is a D arrester, the next stages of surge protection should be implemented on the UPS power supply switchboards + protectors in building switchboards.

    Which does not change the fact that I know cases where the usual offline line-interactive UPS protected the loads when the storm knocked over the power pole (it switched to battery operation, disconnecting the loads during unpredictable phenomena in the power installation). However, these are cases and not a rule / norm.
  • #12 18123959
    CMS
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    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    Now I am looking for a 230V / 230V, 50VA isolation transformer for an oscilloscope, but it's hard to get a cheap one.


    With such a low power, I do not see a problem in "shorting" two transformers, for example 230V / 12V, or 230V / 24V with secondary windings and thus obtaining an isolation transformer.
  • #13 18123971
    pawelr98
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    TechEkspert wrote:

    @ pawelr98 what kind of pure sine UPS is it: online or offline, can the charger handle a car battery?

    As for the software, if there is a problem with Linux, theoretically in amateur conditions you could make a DIY module that would retrieve information about the UPS status and send it with "our" protocol via UART (eg emulated to USB). Adding a halt command call handler after noticing a specific message on the serial console should not be a problem. It is also possible to implement such communication via IP, e.g. using ENC28J60 or another module.

    In the topic of CO pumps for induction motors, it would be good to keep the sine at the output + the signal for the furnace controller that the batteries are about to run out.


    Offline UPS with sine.

    A car battery from the smaller ones - 35Ah.
    Currently, probably ~ 20Ah.
    7Ah was installed at the factory.

    It's not that this battery is used because of some real need.
    The factory 7Ah battery (used like the entire UPS) just died and I did not want to buy a new one. And since it was being replaced in the car, I connected the old one.

    If the battery is slightly discharged (let's say it is a dozen or so minutes), at first the charging system gets tired of it (charging current 0.8-1A). But after an hour or two it goes into maintenance (lower voltage) and the problem is gone (the holding current is quite low).
    The problem is automatic charging. When the mains returns, it gives the battery somewhere with 14 volts, which causes the auxiliary transformer to heat up (it is responsible for charging, not the main transformer) to quickly charge the battery. Only that the capacity is much higher and it is switched to a lower voltage after a much longer time.

    Generally, this is not a very big problem. It is enough to add a separate charging assistance system if the battery is very large.
    Or make a simple modification to replace the internal auxiliary transformer with a larger one. There is usually a pair / a dozen VA and replace it with 40-60VA which will provide a current of a few A.

    For me, the dips are so short and rare that the charging system is doing fine. Most often it is the fuses being blown by the welder, which gives only a few minutes of break (until I go and turn the fuse back on).
    Sometimes it will only release a fuse from a given circuit, but sometimes it happens that the main one trips (you can see the selectivity not quite well selected by the last electrician, which he did the switchgear from scratch).

    In the case of central heating furnaces, where there are more frequent dips, additional charging systems supporting such UPSs are often visible.
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    @TechEkspert, be sure to check if these UPSs interfere with nearby radio and TV receivers, both during operation from the network and during battery backup.

    I know from experience that laptop power supplies of this brand (and I've already had a dozen of them in my hands) are terribly "noisy". I have never undressed them, but I have suspicions that they are not properly shielded.
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    @ pawelr98 in this UPS offline sin there is a step-up transformer in the output and inverter on low voltage side?
    When looking at the heat sinks of keying transistors, are there significant losses, what can the efficiency of the entire system be when powered from a battery?

    @CMS good idea, I did not come up with such a test, I will check it and let you know.
    Recently, in terms of interference, I struggled with the LED power supply: Reduction of interference from the LED ceiling power supply.

    At what frequencies did you notice the interference? FM radio, DVBT TV or AM radio with long / medium wave?
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    CMS
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    I mainly listen to Rock Radio, in Warsaw, which is 103.7, but I think that when it "sows" it is in the entire FM band.
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    TechEkspert wrote:
    @ pawelr98 in this UPS offline sin there is a step-up transformer in the output and inverter on low voltage side?
    When looking at the heat sinks of the keying transistors, are there significant losses, what can the efficiency of the entire system be when powered by a battery?


    Low side inverter is normal thing.
    The transformer works like a low pass filter.

    A sine wave is compared with a triangle wave and thus a corresponding PWM signal is generated.

    This is how every sine wave inverter works, including class D audio amplifiers.

    You can even make a "poverty inverter" in this way, i.e. a class D amplifier + mains transformer.

    And the efficiency of such a system must be rather high because the heat sinks are small.
    Now I am picking at the phone (bootloader repair) but then I can show photos from the inside of this 1kW UPS by EVER.
    It is a RACK version, most of the space is taken up by batteries and a transformer. The PCB is rather small in comparison.

    The topology is probably full-bridge due to the lack of capacitors or split between two batteries (this model has 2x12V = 24V).

    If I put it back together (the transformer was disconnected) and swayed the batteries, I could also measure with an oscilloscope what the low-voltage side looks like.
  • #18 18124468
    tzok
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    It even looks decent, but I am a bit surprised that nowadays someone else produces UPSs with an "approximated sine wave". I had one such UPS and after replacing the power supply in the computer with an APFC one, the UPS became practically useless - it hums, heats up and the backup time has dropped by half or more.
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    I do not remember the power supply, probably a Fortron, the UPS was the Fideltronik ARES 500, but the brand probably does not matter much, only the shape of the waveform plays a role.

    ... o I even found such a topic on the Forum: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2329518.html
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    In the case of switching power supplies, in general, UPSs could just normally deliver a DC voltage of 325 + V and that's it. No AC fun.

    If someone does not feel sorry for the warranty (or the power supply after the warranty), then such a thing is usually possible.

    Or you might be tempted to simply shut off the APFC while the UPS is running.
    All you need is a relay that shortens the appropriate pins in the control system (there must be a function that checks if there is any voltage in the network, which can be used to immobilize the chip).
    Each APFC circuit has a diode that bypasses the choke (somehow the power supply has to move), so with the keying turned off, it will simply be normal to rectify the voltage through the rectifier bridge.

    Considering that a typical offline UPS uses a relay for network / battery switching, the workload is not too large.
    Just add another one in parallel to the original one and that's how to do the job.





    Here you can see how it is structured (8:40).

    It is true that my UPS has a sine wave, but the UPS in the array NAS has a passive PFC. Year of production 2007 and still in good condition.

    Here, for example, I start the power supply (not just anything, a resonant converter (ZCS) push-pull) from DC voltage (regulation from about 150V to 450V).
    The factory has APFC on a separate PCB.

    The main problem was basically that the APFC also included a voltage source to start the power supply (initial control power supply).

    Beautifully replaced with two MŁT resistors passing some current from the main capacitor to the auxiliary power supply (after start-up it powers itself from a separate winding).

    Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell

    By analyzing the operation of the power supply, it is possible to determine what modifications should be made to run it properly without the APFC circuit.
  • #23 18126062
    tzok
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    This is how you can play with electro-scrap equipment, but when you buy a new computer and a new UPS for it, no one will modify the power supply, but will buy a UPS that will not cause problems.
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    @CMS I temporarily checked the level of generated interference and in no configuration I was able to disturb the FM radio reception. I ran the SDR and checked the 10MHz, 50MHz, 100MHz bands, it was hard to notice anything against the local interference.

    Finally, I introduced a simple battery receiver and in the case of long and medium wavelengths, you can get interference from offline UPS, but it does not surprise me at all due to the presence of a transformer and a magnetic coupling with a ferrite antenna. This is not a "life" situation, as it is enough to move the receiver away from the UPS and the disturbance disappears. In the case of an online UPS, the same method can be used to obtain interference by bringing the radio closer to the power cables (because the UPS housing is metal and shields quite well).

    From the more "practical" effects I was able to obtain interference at some frequencies in the range of ~ 1500Hz at a distance of several to several dozen centimeters. In the case of offline UPS, disruptions appeared in battery operation - a matter of course in network operation, there is no processing. However, in the case of the online UPS, an interesting relationship appeared - without the connected load, one could notice interference modulation, connecting the load in the form of a light bulb reduced the interference level.
    The level of interference from the online UPS was close to the interference generated by the inverter of a 1W LED flashlight approximate to a radio receiver ...

    Summarizing these primitive attempts, on the example of problems with the LED power supply: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3601356.html I gained some "experience" in this matter. In the case of the LED power supply, I did not have to try very hard to detect interference from other nearby sources. However, in the case of UPSs, I had to make an effort and come up with impractical scenarios to get some effect.
    FM radio failed to disrupt.

    I know that these are very primitive tests and they have nothing to do with some measurement, but I explain the obtained results to myself like this:

    - in the case of offline UPS during mains operation, there was no processing, so no interference, with battery operation, the operating frequency was low, so the bands of generated harmonics did not reach the FM radio range, while the interference obtained in the immediate vicinity for long and medium waves resulted from magnetic coupling with considerable transformer

    - in the case of online UPS, the whole is shielded and inside there were filters with inductances, in the absence of load, the cable at the output acted as an antenna and the proximity of the radio allowed to detect interference, while connecting the load allowed for the flow of current and "activation" of the filters, and perhaps more stable operation of the inverter control systems.

    What do you think about it?

    @ Kraniec_Internetów it remains to check the cooperation of the UPS offline with the AC adapter with APFC. I am curious about the results, because such systems change a lot at the input, trying to obtain a sinusoidal shape of the current. Once I made a comparison of the current shape against the input voltage of the SMPS with APFC and without PFC, you can see that APFC has something to do:


  • #25 18126287
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    tzok wrote:
    This is how you can play with electro-scrap equipment, but when you buy a new computer and a new UPS for it, no one will modify the power supply, but will buy a UPS that will not cause problems.


    Well, I have never bought a new power supply yet, so I have never had a guarantee as such.

    However, a better solution is to buy a used UPS with a sine wave.
    The price difference is sky-high.
    Mine in the new version cost about PLN 500-600 and I bought it for probably PLN 120 with a battery.

    Here are the photos of the 1kW UPS.
    There are four transistors between the two heat sinks, which means a full bridge.
    Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell
  • #26 18126304
    CMS
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    Thanks for the test. I am positively surprised.
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    @CMS I also "hoped" that the offline rectangle would sow a lot, but I think that the low frequency and the presence of a large inductance mitigated the effect. Online is a different class solution so I expected the noise level to be low (look at the line input filter), but the higher no load noise level was not obvious.

    The 1W LED flashlight was also "effective", if you could check the medium wave influence ~ 1-1.6MHz (and other ranges) of your slightly stronger flashlight in your free time, we will see if we can spot a new source of interference :)

    @ pawelr98 Powerful and domestically produced output transformer. In the tested offline UPS, the transformer core elements are connected by a weld / weld. In this Indel, I assume that no such solution has been used? In this topic: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3606304.html, there was a discussion about the impact on the transformer parameters of such a method of connecting sheets by welding / welding in a transformer.

    @ Kraniec_Internetów at small values of current there is a kind of APFC activation threshold.
    I have the results of experiments with the observation of the input current of the SMPS from APFC.
    Trace of yellow current shape, trace of blue voltage shape.

    As you can see, it's not bad, sometimes there are current pins, but it doesn't look dangerous:
    Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell

    I managed to capture the phenomenon that you are probably writing about and here the current peaks look worse,
    this was accompanied by a slight humming of the UPS transformer, I held the device in this state for a few minutes and the operation seemed stable:
    Comparison of online and offline UPS features - Green Cell
  • #29 18127675
    CMS
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    TechEkspert wrote:
    with a slightly more powerful flashlight, we will see if we can locate a new source of interference :)


    You're talking about the one who melted my cover and fleece :) , it was 10W, I already have four of this power, and two more will be built any day.

    I would like to do such a test, but I have no conditions. However, I did not find any interference in any devices near the flashlights.
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    Yes, I meant these high-power flashlights that glow so that they can make a hole in the case :)

    Perhaps it is a question of the frequency of the converter, in a lower power flashlight maybe the converter has a simple structure and is unstable.

    I was wondering about the phenomenon you describe, i.e. interference at frequencies around 100MHz, maybe these power supplies were damaged, or fell into some oscillations? Strong harmonics so "far" from the fundamental frequency may indicate steep slopes of the signal and strong current pulses.

    Managed to record a multi-topic podcast with an engineer from Green Cell a member of the R&D team. In this topic, we only tested UPSs, but in the recording we talk about fast charging standards for mobile devices, car DC / AC converters, and about electromobility.
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