[Solved] Regulations for Installing Electrical Switchboard in Cabinet Recess with Sliding Doors

kkas12 wrote:

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Or maybe put them in a recess and brick the recess and we have a beautifully exposed wall.

Leave the gap to, for example, use an "esy" screwdriver (after activation).

For what. After all, it is maintenance-free.

I would like to add that there are situations when the installation must be de-energized immediately.
In the event of an electric shock or fire, every second is precious.
I cannot imagine that while saving my life, health, property, I would first have to look into wardrobes, cupboards, cupboards, storage spaces etc. and scour their contents in search of switchgear.

As for the storage spaces, three years ago I made a project to transfer the measuring systems from the staircase to the basement and the new inlets to the TM in the cooperative block, 4-storey. When I was on the inventory in the apartments, I found that more than 80% of TM built over the door (once there were such standards) were later enclosed by residents with storage spaces in which everything was stuffed. From DIY equipment to clothes. Receiving circuits protected by Bi fuses in the Maków housing. Mostly original fuses, although with different values, were also padded. I asked if the tester noticed it while taking periodic measurements. The answer was similar, "Mr., he never looked there" !! I did not have to, but I informed the residents about the dangers of building TM with storage spaces and filling them with clothes. Unfortunately, this is the Polish reality.

And it will remain so as long as people with the mentality of their colleague Markus (and unfortunately not only) will find applause for their limited point of view, which is the beginning of a sick discussion.
And in this forum, such ideas should not, and even have no right to become, under any circumstances, the beginning of further discussions.
Because this is heresy.
Nothing more.

zbich70 wrote:

I cannot imagine that while saving my life, health, property, I would first have to look into wardrobes, cupboards, cupboards, storage spaces etc. and scour their contents in search of switchboards.

Write down "and chase them away burning (fuming) content ... ". Because such a variant should also be taken into account.

And all this in a place that has just been renovated.

Yes, yes, certainly an elderly, infirm person has been wandering in the switchboard since the morning
Write this with your hand on your heart, how many times have you turned off the circuit in the switchboard because you have shocked someone? Probably not more often than an encounter with a UFO.

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stomat wrote:

Write this with your hand on your heart, how many times have you turned off the circuit in the switchboard because you have shocked someone?

Idiotic translation. The fact that I have never taken the keys from a drunk driver does not mean that everyone on the road behind the wheel is always sober. If the procedures and rules were followed, the Smolensk catastrophe would not have happened. But it was because there were smart "thinkers" who always know better.

stomat wrote:

Yes, yes, certainly an elderly, infirm person has been wandering in the switchboard since the morning
Write this with your hand on your heart, how many times have you turned off the circuit in the switchboard because you have shocked someone? Probably not more often than an encounter with a UFO.

A moment of burnout of the light bulb is enough to deprive the tenant of lighting in the apartment, and the fact that this person has only a candle (not a flashlight) at hand is a problem.

elpapiotr For example, my lighting is divided into three circuits + emergency lighting in selected rooms.

Ryszard49 wrote:

elpapiotr For example, my lighting is divided into three circuits + emergency lighting in selected rooms.

Grandma has too?

elpapiotr , he wrote:

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Grandma has too?

There is no but also maybe she doesn't know where the "traffic jams" are in her apartment and I don't suspect that she was messing with the security herself.

Well, tell my friend to play there:



I did an installation renovation in this apartment, it was there fuse board on ... one "es" B16 probably. In corridor B 20.
There it is about 3.5 meters high. Let Grandma go down the ladder.

I can see the topic has developed. I attach a photo of what it looks like for me. If that were the case, I would throw away one shelf and have a space of 50x70 cm.

elpapiotr wrote:

stomat wrote:

Yes, yes, certainly an elderly, infirm person has been wandering in the switchboard since the morning
Write this with your hand on your heart, how many times have you turned off the circuit in the switchboard because you have shocked someone? Probably not more often than an encounter with a UFO.

A moment of burnout of the light bulb is enough to deprive the tenant of lighting in the apartment, and the fact that this person has only a candle (not a flashlight) at hand is a problem.

Please don't mix up the threads because we won't get anywhere. You write about an old installation where everything hangs on one "whip", and I am about a modern installation with separate circuits, with FRs etc. as God commanded, only with a switchboard placed above the door. This is what is done a lot now and I don't see anything wrong with it. Even if you step on a stool once a month like a president in a monthly magazine.
And do not exaggerate, as on TV, whenever the TV talks about riding a bicycle after drinking beer for dinner - they show a peasant in rubber boots who falls over on a folding pile. These are two different things.

elpapiotr wrote:

I did a renovation of the installation in this apartment, there was a fuse board for ... one "es" B16 probably. In corridor B 20.
There it is about 3.5 meters high. Let Grandma go down the ladder.

How would she shut down the installation if it shocked someone? An ax with a dry, wooden handle should hang in the corridor to cut the cord if necessary
I hope you made her switchboard centrally next to the TV set at a height of 60 cm.

Buddy dent, you're just writing ... stupid stuff.
And your hope is in vain. Behind the TV. That it would not be conspicuous.

Wojtasekowski wrote:

retrofood then I have a different question. I can give the distribution box itself in the partition wall because it will fit, but what about the meter? I have a 30 cm door recess and it would be fine to stuff it there, but is it possible?
In the photo I marked what I mean.

And at this point you can cram whether there are any legal contraindications?

We raise the topic

Meter elevated in front of building, slim switchboard in flat in partition wall. Not obscured by anything. And in addition to the nearby domestic fire extinguisher:) .