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  • Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Hello my dears
    Today I will describe here my own segment with drawers for storing small parts.
    I designed the whole thing first in the 3D modelling program Blender and then printed it on a 3D Creality Ender Pro 3 using PLA printer .

    Design considerations
    I made the following assumptions when designing the drawers:
    - the whole thing should be easily manufactured on a cheap 3D printer (without using supports )
    - gluing should be kept to a minimum
    - different types of drawers should be available (i.e. different numbers of compartments)
    - drawers should be compatible with the modular drawer segment still available in the shops Patrol , which I use to date
    - the drawers should be able to easily insert a card/cardboard box with a description of the contents
    - for printing will be used filament PLA and printer Creality Ender Pro 3

    Design and first tests
    One of my primary considerations was compatibility with the Patrol segments, so I started by measuring the 'Patrol' drawers.
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    I came up with 92x40x72, so I designed a prototype like this:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Then, as a first test, I printed it out:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    The wall thickness here was 1mm, the print time was just under 3.5h and the weight of the filament used was 25 grams.
    The print came out good and solid. I then decided that I would try to print more of these, and to improve the existing model. I also then started to consider versions with 0.5mm thick walls (but such are less robust).

    Handles
    I then designed a handle. I decided that I would try to make it as a separate print, although I now know that I could supposedly use the so-called supports and print it together with the drawer.
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    The handle itself turned out to be a quick and light print:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Less than a quarter of an hour and done. The printed handles came out like this:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Initially I thought that this was just the first version and that I might modify these handles to somehow go on the drawers (something like a catch), but in the end I left their original concept to the end.

    Different versions of the drawers
    The next step was to prepare different versions of the drawers. In the end I stopped at:
    - 3x1 version - 3 compartments
    - version 3x2 - 6 compartments
    - version 4x2 - 8 compartments
    I decided to print these newer versions with 0.5 mm thick walls for a test, not 1 mm as in the first version.
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Counter-intuitively, so many compartments can be useful, especially if someone really likes to keep things tidy and sorted. Even the nuts or bolts themselves are much more convenient to keep separated and not (as some do) mixed up.

    "Pocket" for a card
    Satisfied with the results, I decided to add something I was unlikely to find in the commercially available drawers, namely a pocket for a card/label with contents.
    To start with I made it like this:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    The whole idea was to be able to change the signature of each drawer without gluing.
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing

    Segment for drawers
    The next obvious step was to already design an entire segment into which the drawers could be inserted. I started with a 3x1 block:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    And after testing it (printing it, checking the dimensions) I also designed a 3x2 block:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    By the way, these were some of the longest pieces I've printed to date. A whole 15 hours! But it was worth it, as the element came out correctly on the first try.
    I couldn't design any larger blocks anymore due to the limitations of my 3D printer, but there's nothing stopping you from printing two blocks and gluing them together. In my experience, 'Droplet' type adhesives hold PLA filament very well.

    Addition - print times and weights
    As a matter of interest, I will include here the print times and weights of the individual items. The values here are those estimated by the program Cura but I know from experience that they are quite close to reality (with longer times the discrepancy in print duration is several minutes). All the items here have been printed using a ready-made set of settings Cura called " Low Quality 0.28 mm ", which is this fastest configuration. Accuracy with these drawers is not critical, although I have changed some of the models several times to make sure they open and close comfortably.

    Element: handle
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Time: 8 minutes
    Weight: 1 g

    Element: Element:1x3 compartment drawer 1 g
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Time: 2 hours 5 minutes
    Weight: 17 g

    Element: Element:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Time: 2 hours 28 minutes
    Weight: 19 g

    Element: Element:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Time: 8 hours 19 minutes
    Weight: 83 g

    Element: Element:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Time: 15 hours 9 minutes
    Weight: 149 g

    Final results - Custom drawer series
    The photo below shows the printed first series of drawers before the handles were glued to them. Some of these have a wall thickness of 0.5mm and some have a wall thickness of 1mm, but I will comment on these thicknesses in the paragraph Conclusions .
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    The screenshot above shows a model of the drawer, the walls of which are already 0.5 mm thick (this is a bit thin, however) and the thickness of the insertion signature cardboard 1 mm (here 0.5 mm could be given).
    This is how the drawers looked after the handles had been glued on (I used Kropelka glue for this):
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    They came out quite solid. In addition, the baffles also reinforced them. I will write more about the solidity of the print in the conclusions.

    Final results - Patrol module compatibility
    As I wrote earlier - my design is compatible with the Patrol module, i.e. the drawer from the Patrol module can be inserted into my segment, and the drawer from my design can also be inserted into the Patrol segment. The dimensions have been specially chosen so that the drawers do not go quite loose, but also go in comfortably and conveniently.

    This is what one of the Patrol drawers in my segment looks like:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    This is very convenient and useful. I already have quite a few "Patrol" drawers installed in the workshop and with this I can manage them better without moving them, which would require unmounting the entire segment from the wall.

    Conclusions, observations
    I drew the following conclusions from the first series of drawers I made with the help of 3D printing:
    - 3D printing allows many types of drawer/piece organiser to be made
    - the printed parts can be successfully glued with a drop and the handles stick in this way, although I think that gluing could be avoided by using a so-called "glue gun". supports
    - wall thickness 1 mm results in a very rigid and robust drawer, however then the whole thing prints for a long time
    - a wall thickness of 0.5 mm results in a more flexible drawer (but within the acceptable limit of suitability, unless one would not handle them well and/or hold heavy parts in them). Then the print is much faster.
    - when printing with 0.5 mm thick walls, strange problems occur in places where successive layers of filament do not want to adhere to each other and "go loose", but I encounter this occasionally and it can be fixed with a few drops of glue
    - it is much better to leave more slack between drawer and its segment than to give too little slack; if we give too little slack, drawers quickly wear and tear, especially if they have walls 0.5 mm thick
    - the additional compartments in the drawers strengthen them considerably, which makes it possible to relax a little bit about the thickness of the walls
    - the whole idea of printing out the necessary segments and drawers is very, very convenient in my opinion, everything can be customised in CAD and printed on the spot
    - the thickness of the card 'pocket' could be reduced, as at this point you have to put a piece of cardboard in there to make it stick well (possibly thicker paper)
    - the drawer segment uses quite a lot of filament, you could try to print it not 100% filled but with holes to reduce its weight
    - there is still the issue of fixing the segments, both to each other and to the wall, to be improved. for the moment this is not urgent, because at my place they simply stand on the countertop

    The question at the moment is how my drawers will fare after, say, a year of use. Then I will be able to judge more reliably whether a wall thickness of 0.5 mm is at all acceptable and whether gluing the handles with a droplet is really an acceptable idea. So far, they all work out pretty well.
    In the worst case scenario I will just print them again, but all with wall thicknesses of 1 mm and maybe even more.
    And what do you guys think about designing and printing your own drawers and organisers for the workshop? Feel free to discuss.

    PS: I am attaching the source file where the models shown in the topic are. I make no guarantee that their dimensions are correct. I have widened some of them to work better with the Patrol drawers. The models may also actually come out slightly different due to printer settings. Before printing things from a file from me, I recommend double checking the dimensions. I myself corrected the dimensions once because the first version of the drawer was going clumsy and locking up.
    drawer1_19...191020.zip Download(87.59 kB)Points: 4
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    The above attachment is in the format blend . Before printing, the individual models must first be exported from it to STL, and only then can the STL be converted to gcode for the 3D printer in question.

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  • #2 18230376
    SylwekK
    Level 32  
    You'll probably hate me, but I'm going to be monothematic with your latest projects. As with the screwdriver holder the economics lie.... While it is justifiable to print a damaged drawer it is simply pointless to print everything from scratch - time, cost, questionable durability of a flaccid component. No sm think. It can be taken as training before a more serious project, but unfortunately nothing more.
  • #3 18230418
    rosak
    Car dashboards specialist
    At the Chinese, there are such drawers to choose from, to colour, for 1/100th of this price.
  • #4 18230439
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    SylwekK wrote:
    Similar to the screwdriver holder, the economics lie.... .


    The largest segment, the 3x2 weighed 150 grams (without the optimisation that can be added). With the price of the filament now available online, which is £40, this comes out to £6.
    A drawer of 20 grams comes out to 80 pennies.
    (And the filament will get cheaper and cheaper over time).

    Such drawers for a 3x2 bookcase go into 6, so we have 6£ + 6*0.8£ = 11£.
    I have seen somewhere on sale twice the size of the Patrol blocks for 20 zloty each, so the situation really isn't bad.
    At the moment, you're paying extra for the business in return for the convenience of customising the model yourself and making it in-house, but you have to look forward - don't you think 3D printers will get better and better and the filament cheaper?

    EDIT: Now I see that a kilo of filament is also at 32 zloty , so a change all the more in favour of the economics of my project.
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  • #5 18230776
    kj1
    Electrician specialist
    rosak wrote:
    From the Chinese, there are such drawers to choose from, to colour, for 1/100th of this price.

    But what guarantee that, two or more years down the line, when you want to expand your "cabinets", you will buy the same ones from him. And even when they are similar, will they match the previous ones?
  • #6 18230815
    SylwekK
    Level 32  
    There is another issue with the drawers that I forgot to mention - I can't imagine drawers for electronics that are not transparent. Somehow the inscriptions are not enough for me, but if others don't mind then ok :)
    I find it quicker to search for an item when I see something like this:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
  • #7 18231388
    Kobra
    Level 18  
    You know, I don't know how your printer would take it, but I would be tempted to buy a 1mm nozzle, I have an Aneta 8 and with this nozzle it can handle this type of printing in vase mode in no time at all
    Absolutely don't worry about SylwekK's and even less about rosak's comments I suspect that 3d printing and Blender are completely alien to them Even if you are not proficient in these programs, with such simple projects you learn and this is a big plus
    I don't know what has happened to this electrode
    Where are the moderators When you post (in Chinese cheaper) you should be banned for life
    Whatever someone does there is always a 'no' and a fixed formula (form over substance)
    It is good that there are other portals where people praise even the connection of the led diode to the battery
    Best regards
  • #8 18231436
    SylwekK
    Level 32  
    @Kobra, point out where my criticism is not constructive. I NEVER write just to write something. I always justify my criticism with reasons why I do and don't, and suggest other solutions. I also wrote in the twin topic (not repeated here) that these projects can only serve as an exercise.
    As for personal excursions of the type
    Quote:
    the subject of 3d printing and blender is completely alien to them

    you'd be surprised how many different specialist programs I've gone through from all sorts of industries and use on an ongoing basis.
  • #9 18231534
    Kobra
    Level 18  
    (Printing everything from scratch is just pointless - time, cost, questionable durability of a flaccid component
    As for me, you don't know what you are talking about PLA is very hard and resistant (I have made a drive for a 4 m gate, the whole drive is made of PLA and the actuator)
    Leave the economics to the creator of the project It should not concern you He financed it and it is he who bears the costs And you have nothing to do with it He wanted to show off And you have nothing to do with it and you should not criticise You are writing to write Pointlessly

    you'd be surprised how many different specialised programmes I've been through in various sectors and use on an ongoing basis

    Show off What have you done? What you can show off What might be helpful to others
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  • #10 18231672
    SylwekK
    Level 32  
    I don't understand why you continue to go private and attack me. Your statements continue to lack substance, and about the flaccidity the author himself even wrote :) .
    Following your line now... You criticise (wrongly) electrode users for their statements, and look at your profile and your achievements here. Compare it with mine, for example. There is a tab called "post rating" - what do you think, does that come from waterboarding, arguing and unwarranted criticism? :)
    Read with understanding, draw the right conclusions. I am not against 3D printers. However, it is just a tool that needs to be learned. What if I posted a similar project here made in 10minutes only made with a table drill in a piece of plywood? Would I get positive marks, or would I not, just because I was using a more obvious tool, even though it will ultimately serve the same purpose? I know that everything can be done in several ways, but for God's sake let's choose the most optimal one. If I were to do an article on every little thing I've done as part of the learning curve with my new milling machine, it would be called a "variation" - soon a description specially dedicated to you:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    Then there will be another two versions of this tool and still a lathe knife for the plates - all within the framework of learning, of course....
    Did you understand what I mean?
    This is a warm greeting :)

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    PS. And that concludes this discussion for us.
  • #11 18231800
    Kobra
    Level 18  
    [quote="SylwekK"]I don't understand why you continue to go private and attack me. Your statements continue to lack meoriticity, and about flaccidity the author himself even wrote :) .
    Following your line now... You criticise (wrongly) electrode users for their statements, and look at your profile and your achievements here. Compare it with mine, for example. There is a tab called "post rating" - what do you think, does that come from waterboarding, arguing and unwarranted criticism? :)
    ]
    My achievements have nothing to do with it It's not the quantity that counts, it's the quality I'm not going to compare it with because I have no one to compare it with All the time I'm writing to your statement in the post Economy (read with understanding)
    You are not the one who should judge the validity of a project in this way Leave it to other users to decide for themselves whether it is worth printing or not An intelligent person will thank you or show you how to do it better
    You do not have to dedicate anything to me I have it .....
    Regards
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  • #12 18231848
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Thank you for your kind words and for your criticism.

    I, nevertheless, continue to believe that the cost incurred in making customised drawers (i.e. ones that are not on sale, i.e. those of my 6-chambered drawers for the Patrol segment) is worth the results. Making a 1:1 clone of Patrol drawers is not cost-effective, but making something that is not on sale and is customised to suit myself for me is worth it.

    SylwekK wrote:
    And if I were to insert here a similar project made in 10minutes only made with a table drill in a piece of plywood?

    The whole idea and convenience of the project is that successive drawers can be created by a few clicks and possibly by flipping a GCode file onto an SD card.
    This is a great convenience which (I don't know why) you don't appreciate. On top of that, any other person can also make my drawers for themselves, you don't need anything other than a 3D printer.
    I realise that perhaps you would prefer to make from plywood as you wrote, but not everyone has the desire, tools and skills to do so.

    As for arguments like "you saved time making the drawers but took a long time designing the model" - i disagree, because with the number of printed copies of the same model, however, the 'time cost' spent on making it in a 3D program decreases.

    PS: I also saw on our DIY forum that someone is making 3D printer filament from old PET bottles. If this was combined with the idea of drawers, it might still be possible to go lower in cost.
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  • #13 18231889
    necavi
    Level 18  
    Plus for the fixed partitions. The movable ones are only in theory about convenience and configurability. In practice, after time the elements chase all over the box.
  • #14 18231903
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    necavi wrote:
    Plus for the fixed partitions. The movable ones are only in theory about convenience and configurability. In practice, after time the elements chase all over the box.


    Exactly, I know this problem all too well. The worst thing is to give different compartments parts that look very similar and are small, such as screw washers. I have had this happen so many times that I realise after one drawer has been removed that the contents of the compartments have started to get mixed up.
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  • #15 18232800
    krakarak
    Level 42  
    I am waiting for a project to 3D print a match or a stick.... The printed screwdriver holder and boxes are a complete misunderstanding and a dead end in the use of this technology.
  • #16 18233817
    romulus73
    Level 28  
    Fellow cracker you are strange, try to buy such a clutch. the white one is original (deliberate aging of the product) broke after a year and the blue one is a revised version made of PLA of questionable durability exceeding the original casting
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    or make yourself a rebuild like this
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing
    all you can do is scrape it out with a knife. has 3d printing now made sense to you?
    Maybe someday you'll understand that a printer is a great time killing pastime and doesn't have to be cost effective because the Chinese have it cheaper, I don't care I want to print it, but you probably prefer to look at your phone screen.
    Back to the topic, I have been printing binders for a long time and for such prints I recommend dyza 0.6
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  • #17 18234141
    krakarak
    Level 42  
    I am not the odd one out, but you are attributing content to me that I have not addressed!
    I do not question the essence and technology of 3D printing! But where it is justified by time and economics!
    I was referring to the "timeless" use of the 3D printer for such, pardon the pun, "organisers" for screwdrivers or boxes for small items!
    What anyone without exception can do with just a screwdriver and a piece of wood in 2 minutes, the author's colleague develops the algorithms for printing, imaging and uses the 3D printer. If this isn't content over form, I don't know what is!
    That's what I mean and that's all I mean.
  • #18 18236029
    tomybb
    Level 26  
    By the way, so as not to start a new topic: which 3D printer is now worth buying?
  • #19 18236139
    CC_PL
    Level 13  
    The colleague's project - even if not entirely justified, in terms of effort and printing time - is quite interesting. With time calculated in hours, I wouldn't have so much patience and would buy twice as expensive drawers from a shop :)

    But I agree that 3D printing is particularly recommended for recreating damaged parts, etc. And less so for 'garage' printing of larger series of products (unless it makes more economic sense).


    tomybb wrote:
    By the way, not to start a new topic: what 3D printer is worth buying now?


    It depends. For what, for what amount, what materials, how many nozzles,. etc. etc.

    For fun, ANET, Ender or Prusa clones will suffice. These are printers for 500-1300 zł.
    For something more serious I would recommend an original one from Joseph Prusa. Around 3500 zł.
    For a company where precision and repeatability count, I would go for any ZORTRAX. From 7-8 thousand zł upwards.
  • #20 18236157
    tomybb
    Level 26  
    CC_PL wrote:
    It depends. For what, for what amount, what materials, how many nozzles,. etc. etc.


    Rather in the price range up to about 1000PLN, with a view mainly to printing some not too large details, parts, etc. Which of these cheaper ones do you recommend?
  • #21 18236173
    CC_PL
    Level 13  
    I would take Ender 3, or its PRO version (used in this article).

    @p.kaczmarek2 - Regarding the Patrol drawers, the shop ones, do you have their exact dimensions? I see in the text that you measured with a caliper.
  • #22 18236228
    tomybb
    Level 26  
    CC_PL wrote:
    I would take Ender 3, or its PRO version (used in this article).

    Is it worth paying extra for the Pro version?
  • #24 18238640
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    CC_PL wrote:

    @p.kaczmarek2 - Regarding the Patrol drawers, the shop ones, do you have their exact dimensions? I see in the text that you measured with a caliper.

    Quote:

    It came out 92x40x72, so I designed a prototype like this:
    Custom organiser/drawers for small components, parts - design and 3D printing

    Except that you have to be careful with these dimensions, because I once widened my drawer segments by 1mm because the Patrol drawers went into them (because they are made of more flexible material) and the 3D printed ones blocked.
    Also probably a matter of the print precision settings in Cura and the printer itself.

    tomybb wrote:
    CC_PL wrote:
    I would take the Ender 3, or its PRO version (used in this article).

    Worth paying extra for the Pro version?


    I plan to write a short review of the Ender 3 Pro along with my own experiences and comments on use. But in a nutshell I am happy with my printer, a couple of things should be kept in mind however....
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  • #25 18238869
    tomybb
    Level 26  
    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    I plan to write a short review of the Ender 3 Pro along with my own experiences and comments on use. But in short I am happy with my printer, a couple of things should be kept in mind however...


    When are you going to write because I am just at the buying stage....
  • #26 18238933
    CC_PL
    Level 13  
    Quote:
    But you have to be careful with these dimensions, because I once widened my drawer segments by 1mm because the Patrol drawers went into them (because they are made of more flexible material) and the 3D printed ones blocked.
    Also probably a matter of the print precision settings in Cura and the printer itself.


    That's the 'bul' of how something doesn't fit together. Perhaps the manufacturer has technical drawings of their products?

    @tomybb - the Ender 3 is very OK (especially as it costs £650) if you have a small budget, Whereas instead of the Ender 3 Pro I would personally take the Ender 5 (much larger area, more stable frame, improved electronics and better drives). There's also the slightly more expensive Ortur 4 V2, for around £1,600. On a steel frame, reinforced and giving better prints.
  • #27 18247891
    detomastah
    Level 8  
    @p.kaczmarek2
    I'll ask about Blender, I'm generally an expert in modelling in that program (by Elektroda standards) :D But one thing I can't do - dimension the walls. In your picture I can see the wall lengths, how you obtained them. Or otherwise, how do you design for dimension in Blender?
  • #28 18248178
    CC_PL
    Level 13  
    @detomastah, there are several possibilities:

    The script for creating dimensions in Blender - Coding / Released Scripts and Themes - Blender Artists Community
    https://blenderartists.org/t/the-script-for-creating-dimensions-in-blender/590215

    How to add 3d dimension lines to Blender? • Blender 3D Architect
    https://www.blender3darchitect.com/python-scr...viz/how-to-add-3d-dimension-lines-to-blender/

    Dimensions and Scale - Blender.org
    https://www.blender.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24939

    How to Measure in Blender | 3D Printing Ninja : Free Help Guide to Master 3D Printing
    http://3dprintingninja.blogspot.com/2016/02/how-to-measure-in-blender.html

    Metric and Imperial Units of measurement in Blender : KatsBits TUTORIALS
    https://www.katsbits.com/tutorials/blender/metric-imperial-units.php
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