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Which Mikrotik RouterBoard LHG 4G kit or RouterBoard LHG LTE6 kit is better?

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  • #1 18317884
    maciejolelo
    Level 5  
    Hello, I want to buy an antenna from the manufacturer Mikrotik.
    And now the question arises whether it pays me to buy a version with a category 6 LTE modem but with an energy gain of a 17 dBi antenna. Or choose the option cat.4 modem with 21dBi antenna energy gain.
    My location is a forest, the nearest BTS 7km-10km, operator PLUS / T-Mobile.
    The current set of USB modem HUAWEI E3372 + LTX 900MHz / 1800Mhz antenna without the possibility of changing the band and the PLUS operator. At the moment, the speed is a maximum of 5Mb / s, but when the conditions are better, I have 20Mb / s-30Mb / s.
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  • #2 18317964
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Szajs from Mikrotik are not worth much, who needs something with a 6kat LTE modem as it has an Ethernet port of 100Mb / s? No localization, what is this external antenna, E3372 ordinary or HiLink? In Plus, these 5Mb / s are the norm, do you achieve on LTE1800 or LTE900?
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  • #3 18317975
    maciejolelo
    Level 5  
    According to the browser, it's HiLink. As for the band on which it works, I am not able to answer you, nowhere is it written on what band it works.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    matek451 wrote:
    Szajs from Mikrotik is not worth much

    So what options do you propose?
  • #4 18318050
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Nothing in the dark, if the E3372Hilink should work with https://www.lte-anbieter.info/ltewatch/count_huawei.php?Datei=ltewatch_h, you can force LTE1800 and LTE900 in the application and check the signal parameters and CID of the Plus BTS, same for T-Mobile. In these Mikrotikach, the antenna itself is the best, but the FE port disqualifies them, why a modem with 2 CC CA up to 300Mb / s in a device without GE? In addition, it does not aggregate LTE2600 + 1800 or LTE1800 + 2100, it aggregates LTE2600 + 1800/900/800, LTE1800 + 900/800 and LTE2100 + 900/800.
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  • #5 18318121
    maciejolelo
    Level 5  
    So yes, the band that works for me is 900MHz at 1800MHz connects and disconnects after a while. I used to have a 21DBi parabolic antenna and it raised the range for me, but it did not want to connect to the Internet, it was probably the fault that I had it set to automatic bandwidth selection. It seems to me that it is worth at least to test it and if it does not bring the desired results, return it. That's my opinion.

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    Which Mikrotik RouterBoard LHG 4G kit or RouterBoard LHG LTE6 kit is better?
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  • #6 18318171
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Test on lte900 made on E3372 with some antenna, what? The signal on this band, pretending to be very weak, on the assumption of 5MHz width on LTE900aero2 is slow and usually clogged. LTE1800aero2 at 20MHz also works on the BTS of Plus Obrzycko. The lack of location does not allow you to take a position on the choice of equipment, T-mobile has LTEE1800, LTE2100 and LTE800 in Obrzycko, with their aggregation, on each 10MHz band.
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  • #7 18318178
    maciejolelo
    Level 5  
    Location: Stobnica village.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    The antenna is rather a NONAME for several years already hanging on the antenna mast, but from what I remember, the rating plate was 18dBi 900MHz / 1800MHz.

    Added after 37 [seconds]:

    All hardware in general is several years old except for the router.
  • #8 18318215
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Put the E3372 out of the window on a USB extension cable and test the LTE900 and LTE1800 because this antenna is rather an attenuator. What are the speeds of this Plus on LTE900, show speedtest.
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  • #9 18318230
    maciejolelo
    Level 5  
    Which Mikrotik RouterBoard LHG 4G kit or RouterBoard LHG LTE6 kit is better?
    For two months, I had power failures just like me once. Not when, of course, there were glimpses of the above-mentioned speeds. And I noticed such a strange relationship when the temperature drops below zero, the internet works fine.
  • #10 18318249
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Do not joke with this action flawlessly, at 10.30 pm there is poverty, probably even worse at the peak. Plus, it's not an innovative operator, you can't count on normal internet on LTE900. Only LTE1800 gives some hope, but you have to test it. BTS Kiszewo also works on LTE1800 and LTE900.
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  • #11 18318261
    maciejolelo
    Level 5  
    I am writing you the truth in rush hours, I have a stable 10Mb / s with a ping of 30-40 and at night above 20Mb / s.

    Added after 6 [minutes]:

    There really isn't any antenna that could make a difference?
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  • #12 18318280
    matek451
    Level 43  
    But it's Plus, so the FUP works, i.e. the operator's funnels by. his sees me. it is possible that you got 1 / 0.5 Mb / s. There is no guarantee that after the basic limit you will not get the first one and you will end up with 0.5Mb / s or even 32Kb / s. There is no LTE internet in Plus with no data and speed limits. LTE900 at 5MHz bandwidth in MIMO2x2 in theory provides up to 37Mb / s, so the range band is usually heavily loaded. BTS Obrzycko is powered by a 160 Mb / s radio link. So, by assumption, there will be no madness.
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  • #13 18318342
    maciejolelo
    Level 5  
    But I'm talking about the antenna itself now, not looking at the ridiculous results.
  • #14 18318357
    matek451
    Level 43  
    The antenna will not help if the Plus network is clogged, the stubbornness of Plus's customers is well known, it does not reach them that Plus cuts the speed by unclear criteria. The key is the LTE1800 test. If you have a pressure on Plus, buy this Mikrotik with 6 LTE category and see for yourself, apparently it aggregates LTE1800 + 900, in T-mobile you will use LTE1800 + 800 aggregation but not aggregation of LTE1800 + 2100 capacitive bands because it does not support it.
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    #15 18318485
    jarek7714
    Level 27  
    maciejolelo wrote:

    And now the question arises whether it pays me to buy a version with a category 6 LTE modem but with an energy gain of a 17 dBi antenna. Or choose the option cat.4 modem with 21dBi antenna energy gain.
    My location is a forest, the nearest BTS 7km-10km, operator PLUS / T-Mobile.
    With your field conditions, take the option with cat.4 and 21dB gain (you can change the operator, but if there is no mast closer, in difficult conditions, it will not be crazy, and LTE-A will work "medium" or not at all with changing signal conditions). Do not look at this foam flapping about Plus, because since you are extracting 10Mbps from the range band, i.e. that it is not bad with it, but the 800 / 900MHz band for the Internet service, i.e. a poor solution (even with 10MHz band), using an antenna with with such a high dB gain, there is a chance to maintain the radio link in LTE1800 and a stable internet connection. What will the speeds be, i.e. depending on the local load conditions of the transmitter and FUP - in which there is nothing accidental (I have been using it for 2.5 years and after using the basic package I always have a 20Mbps / 7Mbps funnel, this is another 100GB funnel, 32kbps funnel more I never had, max. used over 200GB a day, of course, and then the 0.5 / 0.5Mbps funnel jumped in, with the basic package 40GB).
  • #16 18318642
    m.jastrzebski
    Network and Internet specialist
    matek451 wrote:
    Szajs from Mikrotik are not worth much, who needs something with a 6kat LTE modem as it has an Ethernet port of 100Mb / s? No localization, what is this external antenna, E3372 ordinary or HiLink? In Plus, these 5Mb / s are the norm, do you achieve on LTE1800 or LTE900?

    Not that I was picking on, but why would someone need a port faster than 100Mb / s if it has 7km to BTS? Even if he sneezes, he will not even come close to those 100mbit / s.
  • #17 18318693
    matek451
    Level 43  
    And is this device sold only to users under such conditions? Since a 6-category LTE modem with 2 CC CA up to 300Mb / s was inserted into it, it is logical that the LAN port was GE, which was even worse, this error was duplicated from the machine because in the earlier ones with LTE 4 cat, DL speed up to 150Mb / s and then FE no longer used the capabilities of the modem
    . The use of the FE port in such devices is a misunderstanding. The very idea and solution is OK, but the use of the FE port affects the negative assessment, unnecessary savings are reflected in the hiccups. Maybe in the next version they will eliminate this error. List the situation, paint it as with 100Mb / s AC and WAN routers.
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  • #18 18318726
    m.jastrzebski
    Network and Internet specialist
    matek451 wrote:
    And is this device sold only to users under such conditions?

    I value your knowledge very much, but are we talking about all potential users and conditions here? We are talking about one specific (difficult) case here. The author is not to buy the device, because it may be too weak for Zdziśek who lives under the BTS?

    It would be fair to say that MT gave the bodies with the port, but in this case it does not matter anyway.

    How many people / situations do you know that LTE CAT 4 or 6 goes over 100mbit / s in this country. Be realistic. In my experience, MT with LTE is dramatically more stable than the Huawei device I am currently using. The first one worked for weeks (although only in CAT 4) and I have to restart Huawei (B715) once a day because it stops working.

    matek451 wrote:

    List the situation, paint it as with 100Mb / s AC and WAN routers.

    This is not the same situation. 100mbit / s in LTE Cat 4/6 is a rather rare situation. Everyone who has to use LTE because it is not possible to use permanent internet from the cable, probably enjoys 100mbit / s.
    WiFi AC in a house / apartment can operate above 100mbit / s in virtually every case and the FE port is an obvious limitation here.
  • #19 18320537
    maciejolelo
    Level 5  
    Which Mikrotik RouterBoard LHG 4G kit or RouterBoard LHG LTE6 kit is better?
    The same internet has not been changed except that the temperature dropped below zero and it is on the 900MHz band.
  • #20 18320656
    matek451
    Level 43  
    The test from 7 a.m. has practically no meaning, in Plus, even at this time not many people use the Internet. the maximum load is between 19-23 and then the speedtest is reliable. The result obtained at the level of 33 Mb / s is almost the maximum for this LTE900 band.
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  • #21 18324870
    maciejolelo
    Level 5  
    Hello, it's me again. Yesterday, an antenna from MikroTik 21dBi came to me. And in my opinion it is much better than on the previous equipment.
    Which Mikrotik RouterBoard LHG 4G kit or RouterBoard LHG LTE6 kit is better? Which Mikrotik RouterBoard LHG 4G kit or RouterBoard LHG LTE6 kit is better?
  • #22 18324904
    matek451
    Level 43  
    What's better? After all, the signal on LTE1800 is a drama, RSRP-117dBm with an antenna with a gain of 21dBi in theory. Do around 20 tests and show the results.
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    Anonymous
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  • #24 18325569
    maciejolelo
    Level 5  
    Which Mikrotik RouterBoard LHG 4G kit or RouterBoard LHG LTE6 kit is better? Which Mikrotik RouterBoard LHG 4G kit or RouterBoard LHG LTE6 kit is better?

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    The antenna works on the bands:
    LTE FDD:
    3 (1800 MHz)
    7 (2600 MHz)
    20 (800 MHz)
    31 (450 MHz)
    LTE TDD:
    41n (2500MHz)
    42 (3500MHz)
    43 (3700MHz)
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    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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    Anonymous
    Level 1  

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the choice between the Mikrotik RouterBoard LHG 4G kit with a category 4 LTE modem and a 21 dBi antenna versus the RouterBoard LHG LTE6 kit with a category 6 LTE modem and a 17 dBi antenna. Users express concerns about the performance of both options in a forested area, approximately 7-10 km from the nearest BTS, with operators PLUS and T-Mobile. The current setup using a HUAWEI E3372 modem yields speeds of 5-30 Mb/s depending on conditions. Participants suggest testing the signal strength on LTE900 and LTE1800 bands, emphasizing that the antenna gain and modem category will significantly impact performance. The consensus leans towards the category 4 option with higher antenna gain for better stability in challenging conditions, despite the theoretical advantages of the category 6 modem.
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