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[Solved] Which lte router to choose and which external antenna to choose.

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  • #1 18817100
    matrixx1234
    Level 8  
    Hello.
    I live in Werówka, Opoczyński district and want to take mobile internet in orange on a subscription and I do not know what router to choose with the possibility of connecting an external antenna, choose not from Huawei and I do not want this Chinese crap. Which external antenna to choose.
    Thank you in advance for your help in choosing the equipment
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  • #2 18817123
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    matrixx1234 wrote:
    Anything else from huawei and the zte does not want this Chinese crap.

    You will get nothing else, apart from the fact that they are companies leading on the market when it comes to technologies and a multitude of solutions.
    Orange? Did you do any tests or did you like the advertisement?
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  • #3 18817143
    matrixx1234
    Level 8  
    sosarek wrote:
    matrixx1234 wrote:
    Anything else from huawei and the zte does not want this Chinese crap.

    You will get nothing else, apart from the fact that they are companies leading on the market when it comes to technologies and a multitude of solutions.
    Orange? Did you do any tests or did you like the advertisement?

    I know two people and they praise orange
  • #5 18817347
    matek451
    Level 43  
    And who in such a location takes the NetWorks operator, i.e. Orange or T-mobile, internet from them for masochists and suicides. The opinion of friends does not matter, Janusz does not have a clue about mobile internet and operators and their infrastructure in this area. These operators are light years behind the competition there, they use Play or Plus. Orange should be avoided like fire, even testing I would not do because what for. Do the Play tests because there is a base station with aggregation of 4 LTE 2600/1800/2100/800 bands and 50MHz band available for users, very good conditions and prices for subscription and equipment for pennies, of course it is possible only Huawei B818, the best LTE 19 cat router, junk it is produced by others, not this company or ZTE
    Plus, in Drzewica, it has BTS with FDD LTE2600 aggregation + 1800 / + 900, i.e. 45MHZ bandwidth. For comparison, Orange and T-mobile is a nedza station, i.e. only 800 / 900MHz with 10MHz band on LTE800, it is the bottom and meter of silt and the band from the fold is free and blocked completely.
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  • #6 18817577
    matrixx1234
    Level 8  
    90MB / s is plus I usually have 50MB / s
  • #8 18817587
    matrixx1234
    Level 8  
    matek451 wrote:
    And who in such a location takes the NetWorks operator, i.e. Orange or T-mobile, internet from them for masochists and suicides. The opinion of friends does not matter, Janusz does not have a clue about mobile internet and operators and their infrastructure in this area. These operators are light years behind the competition there, they use Play or Plus. Orange should be avoided like fire, even testing I would not do because what for. Do the Play tests because there is a base station with aggregation of 4 LTE 2600/1800/2100/800 bands and 50MHz band available for users, very good conditions and prices for subscription and equipment for pennies, of course it is possible only Huawei B818, the best LTE 19 cat router, junk it is produced by others, not this company or ZTE
    Plus, in Drzewica, it has BTS with FDD LTE2600 aggregation + 1800 / + 900, i.e. 45MHZ bandwidth. For comparison, Orange and T-mobile is a nedza station, i.e. only 800 / 900MHz with 10MHz band on LTE800, it is the bottom and meter of silt and the band from the fold is free and blocked completely.

    I do not take this spy crap from Huawei.

    Added after 5 [minutes]:

    matek451 wrote:
    And what do you use Plus on, show this operator's speedtest.

    I was doing a speed test with my friend on his phone. Now I am in Lodz. I never use a mobile net, but I have a stationary one from Orange at home
  • #9 18817613
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Read less crap because they clearly hurt you. You do not have any knowledge about mobile internet, let alone equipment for it, moreover, your level is evidenced by the fact that you do not even know the units. You do not listen to professionals, but freaks who do not even have Huawei or ZTE equipment in their hands and repeat the nonsense produced by the known country. Well, take this subscription to Orange because your colleagues are full-fledged specialists, they cannot be wrong. And you did the tests for the bank professionally.
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  • #10 18817630
    matrixx1234
    Level 8  
    matek451 wrote:
    Read less crap because they clearly hurt you. You do not have any knowledge about mobile internet, let alone equipment for it, moreover, your level is evidenced by the fact that you do not even know the units. You do not listen to professionals, but freaks who do not even have Huawei or ZTE equipment in their hands and repeat the nonsense produced by the known country. Well, take this subscription to Orange because your colleagues are full-fledged specialists, they cannot be wrong. And you did the tests for the bank professionally.
    Huawei and ZTE This is a Chinese agency.

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    matrixx1234 wrote:
    matek451 wrote:
    Read less crap because they clearly hurt you. You do not have any knowledge about mobile internet, let alone equipment for it, moreover, your level is evidenced by the fact that you do not even know the units. You do not listen to professionals, but freaks who do not even have Huawei or ZTE equipment in their hands and repeat the nonsense produced by the known country. Well, take this subscription to Orange because your colleagues are full-fledged specialists, they cannot be wrong. And you did the tests for the bank professionally.
    Huawei and ZTE This is a Chinese agency.

    Man is looking for help and here they still spit venom instead of helping.
  • #11 18817640
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    matrixx1234 wrote:
    Huawei and ZTE This is a Chinese agency.

    Even your pants, excuse me, you have Chinese like everything that surrounds you - so either you are going to buy decent equipment, conduct appropriate tests or I do not see the point in pulling the thread.
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  • #12 18817652
    matrixx1234
    Level 8  
    sosarek wrote:
    matrixx1234 wrote:
    Huawei and ZTE This is a Chinese agency.

    Even your pants, excuse me, you have Chinese like everything that surrounds you - so either you are going to buy decent equipment, conduct appropriate tests or I don't see the point in pulling the thread.

    It's like having a public camera at home.
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  • #13 18817657
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    @ matrixx1234 You are spied on by MS, Google and millions of other things - if the proposed devices do not fit, give up the Internet, telephone and hide in the wilderness.
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  • #14 18817684
    matek451
    Level 43  
    He is looking for help from people who have knowledge and listen to them, and there is no repetition of any nonsense about the agent, if not for Huawei, today you would probably use mobile internet at the 2 / 3G level, most of the base stations of Polish operators work on Huawei and client devices, i.e. routers, 99% of MiFI and modems are Huawei and ZTE, its low prices and high quality are due to good cooperation with operators. The rest are far behind and in trace amounts. You did not come here for help, but to hate the producers, it is a waste of time to discuss with you, you do not even know how mobile internet and operators work. People with the persecution mania should do as the colleague wrote above.
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  • #15 18817774
    matrixx1234
    Level 8  
    matek451 wrote:
    He is looking for help from people who have knowledge and listen to them, and there is no repetition of any nonsense about the agent, if not for Huawei, today you would probably use mobile internet at the 2 / 3G level, most of the base stations of Polish operators work on Huawei and client devices, i.e. routers, 99% of MiFI and modems are Huawei and ZTE, its low prices and high quality are due to good cooperation with operators. The rest are far behind and in trace amounts. You did not come here for help, but to hate the producers, it is a waste of time to discuss with you, you do not even know how mobile internet and operators work. People with the persecution mania should do as the colleague wrote above.

    And such a router is worth InterPhone ODU-IDU 300? https://www.plus.pl/telefon?deviceTypeCode=MO...N36A&=contract=24SICode=MODIN36A&=contract=24 DATA.1 & offerSegmentationCodes = & skipOfferSegmentationCodes = & inStock = false & instCode = RR36 & instalmentModelType = PLK_INST_FIXED

    Added after 47 [minutes]:

    I take this Huawei B818 and what an external net antenna for it from a plus
  • #16 18817841
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    matrixx1234 wrote:
    And such a router is worth InterPhone ODU-IDU 300

    Read the ODU-IDU topics on the Forum to find out that even enemies are not recommended to do so.
    matrixx1234 wrote:
    I take this Huawei B818 and what an external net antenna for it from a plus

    First, you should check the signal parameters of all operators in a given place, then you can recommend something.
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  • #17 18820947
    matrixx1234
    Level 8  
    sosarek wrote:
    matrixx1234 wrote:
    And such a router is worth InterPhone ODU-IDU 300

    Read the ODU-IDU topics on the Forum to find out that even enemies are not recommended to do so.
    matrixx1234 wrote:
    I take this Huawei B818 and what an external net antenna for it from a plus

    First, you should check the signal parameters of all operators in a given place, then you can recommend something.

    Screenshots of internet tests plus Which lte router to choose and which external antenna to choose. Which lte router to choose and which external antenna to choose. Which lte router to choose and which external antenna to choose.
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  • #18 18821315
    jarek7714
    Level 27  
    matrixx1234 wrote:
    Huawei and ZTE This is a Chinese agency.

    Don't panic, the US and the rest of the Western world woke up 10 years too late in restricting access to their ICT resources (today i.e. more Huawei's discrimination and fear of being dominated by the best Chinese), noticed that they have a problem - because they depend on products / components from China.
    sosarek wrote:

    Read the ODU-IDU topics on the Forum to find out that even enemies are not recommended to do so.
    You write nonsense, the v300 is a very good product - provided that the BTS is in close proximity (about 500m, depending on local conditions), a much better solution than modem-routers located at home without antenna installations. The product should be selected according to local conditions and the content of the offer.
  • #19 18821367
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    jarek7714 wrote:
    You write nonsense, v300 is a very good product - provided that the BTS is in close proximity (about 500m, depending on local conditions),

    That's actually great, so maybe don't write nonsense.
    jarek7714 wrote:
    much better solution than modem-routers located at home without antenna installations.

    Sure, better in what way, for example the lack of the possibility of aggregation of bands, connecting an external antenna to improve the quality of the connection?
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  • #20 18821407
    matrixx1234
    Level 8  
    Prefer to take satellite internet
  • #21 18821411
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Coming back to the merits of the matter, the speed tests after 18 were ambiguous, the results were completely different. The station load changes in 2 minutes in a massive way, a test should be done between 20 and 22. The station is saved by FDD LTE2600, the test is made in its vicinity, the signal parameters on LTE2600 are correct, for this band in LTE1800 aggregation.
    I'm going CPE LTE is to use them at a reasonable distance from the BTS without the need for an external antenna. In the case of odu-300, a distance of 500m disqualifies the device as a CPE LTE.
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  • #22 18821417
    matrixx1234
    Level 8  
    I finally got a specific answer.
  • #23 18821439
    matek451
    Level 43  
    You have read what I wrote about the load on the Plus station in Drzewica, within a minute DL changes from 90Mb / s to 9 Mb / s despite using B7 + B3 aggregation and this is before the evening peak, so further tests are logical because the station may be overloaded . Plus it does not offer B818 and no wonder because it is practically unnecessary in this network.
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  • #24 18825065
    jarek7714
    Level 27  
    sosarek wrote:

    That's actually great, so maybe don't write nonsense.
    Already v1, despite supporting only L1800 and limited to 30Mbps, in many cases achieved higher speeds than the modems / modem-routers offered at that time without proper external installations.
    sosarek wrote:

    Sure, better in what way, for example the lack of the possibility of aggregation of bands, connecting an external antenna to improve the quality of the connection?
    ODU-IDU is equipment addressed to CP customers with the possibility of easy connection to the existing DVB-S / S2 installations, without the use of additional cables (effective / better for close proximity to modem-routers when we do not use external antenna installations), v300 aggregates the bandwidth (useful when the network is overloaded, we have nightly no-limit packages available), it has SMA antenna sockets, another advantage is the selection of a specific LTE band from the device's GUI permanently.
    matek451 wrote:

    I'm going CPE LTE is to use them at a reasonable distance from the BTS without the need for an external antenna.
    There are no devices for everything, especially those sold by operators (ZTE WF830 in Play is also weak for customers away from BTS more than 2 km ...), probably only T-Mobile in the past had an offer from Zyxel's CPE with a reasonable profit.
    matek451 wrote:
    In the case of odu-300, a distance of 500m disqualifies the device as a CPE LTE.
    We can connect external antennas with short cables to the device, reducing the signal loss on the cable (and there are situations when the customer has to use more than 10m of antenna cable and in the case of H-155 / its Chinese counterparts made of "copper" without copper, they practically kill the gain of the external antenna used. have reservations about the price of this set.
    matrixx1234 wrote:
    I finally got a specific answer.
    It can be the ODU-IDU300, it can be a more universal B818, i.e. a question of your budget for a modem / antenna set?
  • #25 18825228
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Inside the WF830 a sector antenna with a gain of 5-7dBi, in the IDU-ODU300 two pieces of PCB with 1dBi antennas, omni-directional at $ 1 apiece, work terrible.
    Dinning for years in full, so instead of installing something normal, in return, cheap SMA was moved outside and now the customer should worry and buy antennas for PLN 200-300. Where is the point of CPE LTE here.
    Secondly, in the case of SAT antennas, their installation in a specific direction is determined in advance, so it does not always hang where the ODU should be, so the directional antenna is not always on short cables.
    Overall it is one big failure, many problems and failures reported on Plus Forum by users, simlock and after 2 years problems with removing it. The price of the massacre, several classes better Huawei 5G CPE Win H312-371 with 5G with 4-band aggregation you can have for about PLN 1,200.
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  • #26 18825698
    Anonymous
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  • #27 18826575
    jarek7714
    Level 27  
    matek451 wrote:
    Inside the WF830 a sector antenna with a gain of 5-7dBi, in the IDU-ODU300 two pieces of PCB with 1dBi antennas, omni-directional at $ 1 apiece, work terrible.
    Do you read anything more than your own texts ?! ODU-IDU300 is a very good solution at a distance of about 500m from the BTS - it works better than modem-routers with 2-3 dB gain antennas located in houses, sometimes a few walls from the direction of the signal and when it is used, there is no option that it does not work correctly. Similarly, the ZTE WF830 - when applied to a distance of about 2km, at longer distances, it will not work properly (and it does not work, more people have problems with it than with the ODU-IDU300, of which there are many more sold ...), then we will not connect external antenna as for the Plus / CP product. In addition, the customer in Plus / CP is not only doomed to an ODU-IDU, he can completely resign from purchasing equipment from the operator, buy any on the open market.
    _cheetah_ wrote:

    The idea was interesting, it was probably mainly about taking the modem to the mast to catch the levels without building a special LTE antenna installation and combining it with the existing TV / SAT cabling, so as not to lay another cable (twisted pair), or possibly pull a relatively cheap TV / SAT cable.
    In addition, the idea was probably the use of 75 ? coaxial cables (TV / SAT), because for one thing, practically everyone is familiar with such cables, and two of them are armed with connectors (F) in the simplest case, without any specialized tools, so even the proverbial housewife could set up such an internet.

    That is, as simply as possible, reasonably cheap, without any specialist knowledge, with a high chance of obtaining some transfers - maximum availability for the less wealthy part of the society, thus not having some very exorbitant transfer needs.

    Simple and uncomplicated commercial thinking (catch as many subscribers as possible), which has resulted in all the rest.

    Actually, for me, the idea is not stupid. Execution - well ...
    Very good idea, medium performance - it would be better to use a directional antenna with even 5dB gain, then the equipment would be less susceptible to stupid use - human factor, I can stick to the software options - it should be enriched with bridge mode.
  • #28 18826635
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #29 18826752
    matek451
    Level 43  
    The idea behind the external CPE LTE is to eliminate losses on antenna cables, i.e. integrating the antenna with the LTE modem, a solution taken from CPE WiFi. CP released a bum and, as part of powdering the muck in the 300 version, introduced two SMA connectors, moreover, quite doubtful in the case of outdoor applications for additional antennas that need cables. You can see that you did not have to deal with it, sold and advertised as a set to connect to a Sat CP TV and as you know, the SAT antenna is set to the south, so you either mount the ODU next to it and often the elevation covers the base station, you add the external antenna on short cables and still you have problems or you place the additional antenna for the ODU in the optimal place, but then the long antenna cables take the gain and again the problem.
    You've seen the inside of the ODU, bad quality PCBs even have signal quality issues near the base station. The IDU in this set is sometimes emergency, but soft has great configuration possibilities, the main drawback is the ODU, the CP had enough time to release the final ODU without flaws with the LTE modem integrated with the MIMO2X2 directional antenna with a reasonable gain, but it did not, a typical approach for them, everything after cheapness.
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  • #30 18830053
    matrixx1234
    Level 8  
    jarek7714 wrote:
    matek451 wrote:
    Inside the WF830 a sector antenna with a gain of 5-7dBi, in the IDU-ODU300 two pieces of PCB with 1dBi antennas, omni-directional at $ 1 apiece, work terrible.
    Do you read anything more than your own texts ?! ODU-IDU300 is a very good solution at a distance of about 500m from the BTS - it works better than modem-routers with 2-3 dB gain antennas located in houses, sometimes a few walls from the direction of the signal and when it is used, there is no option that it does not work correctly. Similarly, the ZTE WF830 - when applied to a distance of about 2km, at longer distances, it will not work properly (and it does not work, more people have problems with it than with the ODU-IDU300, of which there are many more sold ...), then we will not connect external antenna as for the Plus / CP product. In addition, the customer in Plus / CP is not only doomed to an ODU-IDU, he can completely resign from purchasing equipment from the operator, buy any on the open market.
    _cheetah_ wrote:

    The idea was interesting, it was probably mainly about taking the modem to the mast to catch the levels without building a special LTE antenna installation and combining it with the existing TV / SAT cabling, so as not to lay another cable (twisted pair), or possibly pull a relatively cheap TV / SAT cable.
    In addition, the idea was probably the use of 75 ? coaxial cables (TV / SAT), because for one thing, practically everyone is familiar with such cables, and two of them are armed with connectors (F) in the simplest case, without any specialized tools, so even the proverbial housewife could set up such an internet.

    That is, as simply as possible, reasonably cheap, without any specialist knowledge, with a high chance of obtaining some transfers - maximum availability for the less wealthy part of the society, thus not having some very exorbitant transfer needs.

    Simple and uncomplicated commercial thinking (catch as many subscribers as possible), which has resulted in all the rest.

    Actually, for me, the idea is not stupid. Execution - well ...
    Very good idea, medium performance - it would be better to use a directional antenna with even 5dB gain, then the equipment would be less susceptible to stupid use - human factor, I can stick to the software options - it should be enriched with bridge mode.



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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around selecting an LTE router and an external antenna for mobile internet in the Opoczyński district, specifically with the Orange operator. The user expresses a preference against Huawei products, seeking alternatives. Various participants share their experiences with different operators, emphasizing the importance of testing signal strength and performance in the area. Recommendations include considering routers that support external antennas and exploring options from brands other than Huawei and ZTE. The conversation highlights the significance of local network conditions and the potential benefits of using devices like the InterPhone ODU-IDU 300 and Huawei B818, while also discussing the limitations of certain models and the necessity of proper equipment for optimal performance.
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