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ROYA LUX RLX-1201 Infrared Motion Sensor Repair: Continuous Lighting & Regulation Issues

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  • #1 18340187
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    Hello
    I kindly ask for help in repairing the ROYA LUX Infrared Sensor RLX-1201 motion sensor. I don't have a scheme of operation, small components, maybe I will find here kind and professional help in repairing it, for which I would like to thank you right away. The lamp manufacturer does not accept sensors for repair, especially after the lamp warranty has expired. The problem concerns the continuous lighting of the lamp, and the sensor not responding to light or time regulation.
    What could be the reason for this problem and what components should be replaced, possibly how and what to check in this motion sensor? Tips are best in terms of pathology, I'm only fundamentally oriented in electronics, and I really care for the sensor to work again. I attach photos of the sensor (one of the photos shows the power supply for this sensor and lamp).
    Please help.

    ROYA LUX RLX-1201 Infrared Motion Sensor Repair: Continuous Lighting & Regulation Issues ROYA LUX RLX-1201 Infrared Motion Sensor Repair: Continuous Lighting & Regulation Issues ROYA LUX RLX-1201 Infrared Motion Sensor Repair: Continuous Lighting & Regulation Issues
    ROYA LUX RLX-1201 Infrared Motion Sensor Repair: Continuous Lighting & Regulation Issues ROYA LUX RLX-1201 Infrared Motion Sensor Repair: Continuous Lighting & Regulation Issues
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  • #2 18340437
    volt1
    Level 30  
    Start by checking the relay with an ohmmeter, the contacts may have stuck.
  • #3 18340498
    Krzychu7
    Level 40  
    From the pictures you can not see exactly, but did not "spilled" the electrolytic capacitor?
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  • #4 18340690
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    Thank you for contact.
    volt1, how to check the relay with an ohmmeter, do I have to desolder it? I am asking for operating instructions and thank you in advance for all the pathological tips.

    Krzychu7, the electrolyte did not spill it is a small coil, so they secured it with silicone glue from above. If necessary, I will take additional photos from the side.
  • #5 18341040
    volt1
    Level 30  
    You do not need to desolder. You need to check if there is a transition between the marked places. If it is, it means the contacts are stuck together.

    ROYA LUX RLX-1201 Infrared Motion Sensor Repair: Continuous Lighting & Regulation Issues
  • #6 18343923
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    I checked the February legs on the meter, i.e. the diode signal and there is no transition, i.e. a short circuit signal.
    What and how else could you check?

    Maybe someone had a similar problem with this sensor and knows what to do with it and what parts to check or replace to make it work?
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  • #7 18345824
    E8600
    Level 41  
    Meter for measuring resistance and check the potentiometers whether they work (of course, measurements with the sensor off).
  • #8 18346092
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    E8600, thank you for the tip. Can I check these burn time regulators and light sensor without desoldering, or is it better to desolder them to see if they react to changes during their adjustment in plus and minus?
  • #9 18346161
    E8600
    Level 41  
    You can check without desoldering if the resistance changes, how it turns.
  • #10 18349973
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    I checked and both potentiometers react the same to adjustments. In the extreme i.e. upper and lower position there are other values, of which in the lower zero. What could be checked or replaced next? Please help.
  • #11 18350273
    E8600
    Level 41  
    Check SMD transistors for short circuits and look for cold solder.
  • #12 18350414
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    Do I need to desolder them to check these SMD transistors so that there are no distortions? I see two.
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  • #13 18353772
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    I checked by desoldering these transistors and they are functional. What else could you check?

    Close-up of a circuit board with various electronic components. Close-up of a circuit board with various electronic components like capacitors and transistors. Close-up of a circuit board with various electronic components.
    Electronic module with PIR sensor and electronic components. Close-up of a circuit board with various electronic components, including transistors and capacitors. Close-up of an electronic circuit board with various components, including capacitors, resistors, and wire connectors.
  • #14 18358800
    E8600
    Level 41  
    - Searching for cold solders (improve all suspicious connections);
    - Place a functioning / checked electrolytic capacitor behind the rectifier bridge;
    - Under this capacitor, there is probably a fuse resistor 0 (a transition should be functional);
    Having everything on the table checks everything in turn, ending with checking the control systems, comparing the input and output voltages with the catalog note.

    I remind the system is powered by 250 V, so without proper knowledge / practice and without taking precautions it is better to refrain from repairs for your own safety.
  • #15 18359146
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    OK thank you for the information. No pattern, I can't trace at least anywhere. Powered by led power supply with reduction to 40-80V DC.
    quotation: "Under this capacitor there is probably a fuse resistor number 0 (a transition should be functional);"
    I understand that this is black with a white stripe. Do I have to desolder it to check it and should there be a signal of a return trip or only one on the diode measurement?

    Image of a circuit board with various electronic components, including a capacitor and potentiometers.
  • #16 18359538
    E8600
    Level 41  
    It is about the element marked in the picture and it is checked without desoldering, it should have a transition in both directions.

    ROYA LUX RLX-1201 Infrared Motion Sensor Repair: Continuous Lighting & Regulation Issues
  • #17 18361311
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    Really weird stuff. Resistor 0 is functional and there is a double-sided transition, I also checked the MB6S rectifier bridge and it is functional, in addition so. cold solders are missing.
    Is it possible and how would it be possible that the only electrolytic capacitor in this sensor has such an effect that the sensor does not turn on?
    Either way, I need to order a new polarized electrolytic capacitor when it arrives, I will swap it - though it doesn't look damaged in any way.

    I am asking for further hints and help, what could be checked / replaced by this sensor until then, and it may be faulty, preferably from my own experience with motion sensors.
  • #18 18362193
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    Is there any way to check sensor / SENSOR / PIR W216S?
  • #19 18365635
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    E8600, however, you are right. The power supply of this system is 240V AC, only after leaving this system goes to a 40-80V DC power supply.
    Capacitor 47uF / 35V ordered, but it doesn't really look like something is wrong with it.
    Most likely, the cause of the fault must be somewhere else, maybe someone will tell you what else could be checked here?
  • #20 18365644
    Krzychu7
    Level 40  
    I used to have the same fault, but in a different sensor.
    After replacing the PIR sensor, it started to work properly.
  • #21 18366238
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    Krzychu7, thanks for the tip, but here comes another problem and the question where to buy such a P2 W216S PIR sensor, because nowhere in the detail can I find this sensor to buy.
  • #22 18715506
    zdzisław197
    Level 9  
    The fault is so serious that it cannot be rectified. The lamp as all specialists and consultants have stated must go to utilization. Please close the thread.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting the ROYA LUX RLX-1201 infrared motion sensor, which is experiencing continuous lighting issues and failure to respond to light or time regulation. Users suggest various diagnostic steps, including checking the relay with an ohmmeter, inspecting electrolytic capacitors for leakage, and testing potentiometers for functionality without desoldering. The importance of checking SMD transistors for shorts and cold solder joints is emphasized. One user mentions a previous experience where replacing the PIR sensor resolved similar issues. Ultimately, the discussion concludes with a suggestion that the fault may be irreparable, leading to the lamp's disposal.
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