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Nie, dziękuję Przekieruj mnie tamanaba255 wrote:. This proposal is out of the water I have on the two-system Bosza Gas and so far I have not touched the power outage for 8 years, it is up to 300v, but following this path I thought to buy some solar charger Mppt for input up to 550V 48v output to Aku from this to the on grid inverter with a limiter, but the solar charger itself costs more than the converterThere is a seller on Allegro who makes off-grid devices, I have a heater driver from him that gives alternating current, a rectangle and a charger for high voltage PV batteries up to 300V at 12V DC. When I talked with him, he could make a device that, using the current from the panels, gives 230V pure sine output and the missing current is taken from the network.
Batteries for PV are expensive to buy, cheaper will be a large boiler that will collect electricity from surplus in the form of heat, and hot water is needed every day.
https://allegro.pl/uzytkownik/Wojtek959?bmatch=baseline-cl-dict43-uni-1-2-1127
noja102 wrote:. Hello, I do not have a battery yet because these are plans and I have to rethink it, because I do not know what options to choose ongrid limiter or Offgrid, I still do not have an answer to my last question regarding the consumption of more power from the zinverter Off grid if I do not get an answer, I will call, the proposal is ok just a bit high price and still done in ChrlLook for Skymax, for example, here https://www.sklep.asat.pl/pl/c/Inwertery-falźniki-hybrydowe-on-off-grid/78 some of this forum use and praise themselves, and do you have batteries? or a normal hybrid, some solax, goodwe or something like that, only the price of the battery knocks you off your feet
adam12 wrote:This proposal is out of the water I have on the two-system Bosza Gas and so far I have not touched the power outage for 8 years, it is up to 300v, but following this path I thought to buy some solar charger Mppt for input up to 550V 48v output to Aku from this to the on grid inverter with a limiter, but the solar charger itself costs more than the converter
anaba255 wrote:. You are right, but I cannot disconnect the panels on the roof legal issues grindil in the Uk loan I do not have room for a boiler for this plumber and permits I cannot do it myself because I may have problems afterwards when someone picks me up ......adam12 wrote:This proposal is out of the water I have on the two-system Bosza Gas and so far I have not touched the power outage for 8 years, it is up to 300v, but following this path I thought to buy some solar charger Mppt for input up to 550V 48v output to Aku from this to the on grid inverter with a limiter, but the solar charger itself costs more than the converter
This device can run continuously, although it is a simplified alternative to hybrid inverters.
You can easily lower the tension on the panels by dividing them into two rows.
If not the boiler, then only the batteries remain, and this is an additional cost. Count whether the savings you get on battery energy will cover what you spend on the hybrid inverter, batteries and their replacement after some time. Batteries are also efficient.
adam12 wrote:The installation is in the UK, I cannot resell the electricity
adam12 wrote:my last question regarding the consumption of more power from the inverter Off grid j
hostii wrote:https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/7097503700_1578233522.jpgadam12 wrote:The installation is in the UK, I cannot resell the electricity
I do not know what the law is in the UK, but what is happening with the electricity fed into the energy sector ?? is gone?
The question is, is this on-grid single-phase at home?
As for me, the solution can be one, replacing the inverter with a hybrid battery, but you need to look for one that has the priority of charging the battery and then putting it into the network. The point is that the excess electricity should charge the battery for the night.
You can also try to divide the installation into 2kW on-grid and 2kW on off-grid -> in summer, in winter, switch everything to the on-grid because there is not enough sun to use the off-grid. But as you know it is different with batteries, I personally would not buy new batteries (unless there are some shutdowns non-stop, but it's a better aggregate anyway)
It is best to charge a firefighter with power and energy in DHW because it will not wear out after some time
adam12 wrote:my last question regarding the consumption of more power from the inverter Off grid j
when the power of the off-grid inverter is exceeded, it simply turns off
adam12 wrote:the previous owner did not register for electricity surcharges the deadline expired 3 years ago now the installation is used and does not qualify
adam12 wrote:the energy is lost, the meter does not reset, I do not have a penalty, the energy returned is not counted because the solar meter is not read
hupo wrote:. The solar meter is plugged in behind the main meter, as in the on-grid there are no third partiesadam12 wrote:the energy is lost, the meter does not reset, I do not have a penalty, the energy returned is not counted because the solar meter is not read
We do not know the solutions implemented in the UK. Would it be easier if a colleague Adam12 could confirm that the "solar meter" is located in the installation in series "behind" the basic (ordinary) meter and parallel to the other energy receivers in the apartment? If so, we have an ordinary ON-grid that many of us use in Poland, in which we lose only a part of the energy produced and if we want to recover the rest, we must use
- home energy storage cooperating with ON-grid, e.g. as described in post # 16
or
- hybrid inverter with batteries and here (depending on the type of inverter) the problem of overloading the inverter may appear
A more interesting and worse situation would be if the PV is not connected together with the energy receivers in the apartment, it is part of the installation belonging to a third party, etc. / etc, and then the loss is 100% and you definitely need to legally straighten it.
adam12 wrote:It would be nice to find the same or similar but working on this principle, but without batteries with the possibility of external connection because I have some 2Kw lithium-ion batteries from dyson, makita
noja102 wrote:And what brand does this on-grid inverter currently have? Colleague "adam12", because not only victronenergy, it offers solutions for of-grid, if it has, for example; SMA, Sunny Island 4.4M would be better
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If Growatta is, for example: Growatt Sp2000 with high-voltage beteria Growatt http://www.growatt.pl/dokumenty/Katalogi/Growatt%20SP.pdf
TL;DR: 85 % round-trip efficiency is typical for modern hybrid setups [IRENA 2023]; "exceed the inverter rating and it simply shuts down" [Elektroda, hostii, post #18382518] Converting a 4 kW on-grid system to off-grid means adding a battery-ready hybrid inverter or a certified power-diverter; grid-simulation hacks seldom pass G98 tests.
Why it matters: Done correctly, you can reclaim up to ~3 MWh of surplus PV per year instead of giving it away.
• Existing array: 16 × ≈250 W panels ≈ 4 kW; string voltage peaks ≈ 550 V [Elektroda, adam12, post #18380901] • UK G98 limit: 3.68 kW per single-phase export [ENA, 2018] • Hybrid inverter price: £700–£1,200 per kW [IRENA 2023] • Lithium battery cost: £400–£600 per kWh (10 kWh pack ≈ £5 k) [IRENA 2023] • LFP cells give ~6,000 cycles at 80 % depth-of-discharge [BYD 2023]