Switch Connection Guide: Cable Types for Single, Double, Stair, Two-way & More - Anka's Query

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#31 18406449 16 Jan 2020 10:52

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18406449 16 Jan 2020 10:52

Erbit wrote:
Besides, as you have already noticed, a different number of wires for the "such" installation and another for "such" and we still do not know what installation.

As already mentioned, the building is large and there are practically all possible combinations. Canned and without.
But so far the contractor has not ordered a 4-wire cable from me and when I asked, in addition 2 times, he did not intend to, although he received the project - each circuit individually drawn.
I thought he had some super clever way that eluded me somewhere in my experience, but I can see that I must have a serious conversation with him.
Thank you for all your help and best regards.
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anka-e wrote:
I thought he had some super clever way that eluded me somewhere in my experience, but I can see that I think I'm going to have a serious conversation with him.

As a standard, the contractor will buy two types of cables (not everyone will do it, but here it is "visible"):
3x1.5 for lighting and 3x2.5 for sockets.

And now, instead of going to the fitting from the connector, instead of going to the 4x or 5x cable, it will go 3x.
In this situation, there will be a choice:
1. Lay one 3x1.5 wire from the connector to the luminaire and connect only one phase, without the possibility of controlling, for example, many zones in the chandelier.
2. It will lay one 3x1.5 wire from the connector to the fitting and use the protective conductor and leave the installation unprotected.
3. Lay two or more 3-wire wires to the housing from the connector, or between connectors and connect correctly, leaving a large reserve of protective and neutral wires (although it is rather doubtful that he will do so).

The first and the second are not in accordance with the law and technical knowledge.
If the installation is mixed (part made without flask, part traditionally), it is fun to the armpits.
We have a problem related to this on the forum.

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The connection drawings presented by my friend are not correct or are not made as standard.
#33 18406632 16 Jan 2020 13:29

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18406632 16 Jan 2020 13:29

anka-e wrote:
...
I thought he had some super clever way to ...

Of course it has:
- cheap
- bales like
- contrary to the regulations
- dangerously
- if only more remained in the pocket

Let the investor worry about the rest.

anka-e wrote:
... the project got ...

I think many of us would love to have a peek at least at bits of this project. I am simply curious to know how the designer has solved what we are discussing, because if the designer has solved it correctly (and it is also different), it means that the contractor is an ordinary bungler.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the proper connection of various types of switches using specific cable types. Anka outlines her understanding of the required cables for different switch configurations, including single, double, stair, two-way, cross, normally open, three-position shutter switches, and dimmers. Participants provide feedback on the adequacy of Anka's cable specifications, emphasizing the importance of adhering to color coding and installation types (traditional vs. canless). The conversation highlights the necessity of using appropriate cables to ensure safety and compliance with electrical standards, as well as the potential pitfalls of incorrect wiring practices. Specific brands and models of switches, such as Simon 54, are mentioned, along with the need for protective conductors in installations.
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