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    Hello my dears
    I will describe here in detail how to configure Raspberry PI together with OctoPi to operate the 3D printer over the network WiFi . This is a very convenient solution because normally when we want to print something we have to manually put our model file (or more precisely: code GCode for the printer) onto the microSD card and put it into the printer. And with the solution shown here, this can be done fully over the web (via a web browser and a locally hosted web site ) with a few clicks.
    The method shown here also allows you to connect a webcam to view the printout, but I will skip connecting it and focus on the network printout itself.
    The method described here will work on various Raspberry and 3D printers, but I will do it using the example of Raspberry Pi Zero W and printer Ender 3 Pro .

    What is OctoPi and OctoPrint?
    To begin with, it would be useful to define exactly what is what. Admittedly, the two names can often even occur interchangeably, but each actually means something slightly different.
    OctoPrint (current version is 1.4.0) is a web server/interface for 3D printers. It allows you to control the printer via a web browser, send it gcode files via a form, etc.
    OctoPi (current version is 0.17.0) is a finished system image configured with OctoPrint for Raspberry PI .

    Short table of contents of what I will describe here
    Here I will describe:
    - how to prepare a microSD card with OctoPI for Raspberry (along with uploading our network configuration so the Raspberry will connect to it by itself)
    - how to connect Raspberry to a 3D printer
    - how to get the IP address of our Raspberry (if the normal way of connecting to it via http://octopi.local does not work)
    - how to configure OctoPrint to work with the printer (settings Serial Port )
    - how to use OctoPi to print over the network
    I won't describe here how to share our printer across the Internet, as I simply didn't have the need to do so (sharing on my home WiFi was enough). It is possible, but you will have to do it on your own.

    What Raspberry to use?
    OctoPi is compatible with many versions of Raspberry PI , but the final choice of 'Tiny' depends on whether you only want to send .gcode (print files) over the network or to watch the print progress via the webcam.
    If we want to use a camcorder then we should definitely choose a more powerful microcomputer, Raspberry 3 or 4. Sending the camcorder image requires bandwidth and with a weaker 'Tiny' could negatively affect the print quality.
    If you only want to send GCode alone over the network and you don't need a webcam, then Raspberry PI Zero W should also work fine (in my case it did).
    I chose Raspberry PI Zero W and I will describe all the steps here on its example, but for other Raspberry they will probably be very similar.

    What will we need?
    First of all - printer Ender 3 PRO or similar. A full list of printers compatible with OctoPi is here:
    https://github.com/OctoPrint/OctoPrint/wiki/Supported-Printers
    As you can see very many printers are supported so chances are good that ours will be too.
    Raspberry Pi Zero W (this is for the version without camera, for the version with camera a more powerful version will be needed Raspberry ):
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    5V power supply for Raspberry (required current capacity depends on which Raspberry you use, I recommend checking this on the web):
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    MicroSD card (minimum 8GB) for Raspberry (but if you insist, you can even use the one that comes with the Ender 3 in the kit):
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Cable for power supply Raspberry , i.e. micro-USB :
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    First part of connecting Raspberry to the printer, i.e. micro-USB to USB female connector adapter (cable USB OTG ):
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    The second part of connecting Raspberry to the printer, i.e. the usual mini-USB cable :
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Optional - adapter miniHDMI to HDMI . It is only useful if we want to connect a monitor/TV to Raspberry to view what is happening on it. This will not be necessary for us as we will complete the configuration first on the microSD card itself and then over the network:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint

    We are preparing a microSD card for the Raspberry
    OctoPi download from here:
    https://octoprint.org/download/
    There is a warning on the page that OctoPi can run slowly on the Raspberry PI Zero W in combination with e.g. a print video stream, but I'm not going to add a video stream so no problem.
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    The version I used (and current at the time of writing this article) is 0.17.0 . It takes up 600MB and downloaded for me in a few minutes:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    We also download the tool Etcher , which will serve us to record the operating system OctoPi onto a microSD card :
    https://www.balena.io/etcher/
    I chose the Portable version so as not to have to install anything:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    We get our microSD card ready and connect it to the computer via a suitable adapter (well, unless we have a slot for micro SD, then without). I used the adapter that came with my printer Ender 3 Pro :
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Our computer should detect that we have connected the microSD card. Now we can run the program Etcher . Its interface is really minimalist and simple:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    We click ' Select Image ' to select a previously downloaded operating system image:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Then click ' Select drive ' to select our microSD card. The program Etcher then also shows us hard drives connected to the computer via USB, so we have to be careful. Selecting the wrong media as needed can result in data loss!
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    And finally - click Flash .
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    It is possible that the system Windows will then ask us for permissions or permission to operate. We grant it, of course.
    We wait for the operation to complete:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    The whole thing took about 10 minutes in my case. After uploading I got a notification from Windows :
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    I alone Etcher showed that he had finished the job:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    But that's not all - we don't remove the card yet.
    Once the system is uploaded, we open ' My Computer ' and then the microSD card to see the just-recorded system files:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    There we find the text file octopi-wpa-supplicant.txt . In it is the WiFi configuration and there we need to enter our wireless network information. Without this Raspberry will not know what to connect to.
    Open it in some normal text editor ( Notepad++ , etc, not Wordpad or thereabouts):
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    And in it we have to give SSID (name) and password of our network. Below is the entire contents of the file, the relevant fields are completed. Yes, WPA/WPA2 is supported.
    Quote:

    # Use this file to configure your wifi connection(s).
    #
    # Just uncomment the lines prefixed with a single # of the configuration
    # that matches your wifi setup and fill in SSID and passphrase.
    #
    # You can configure multiple wifi connections by adding more 'network'
    # blocks.
    #
    # See https://linux.die.net/man/5/wpa_supplicant.conf
    # (or 'man -s 5 wpa_supplicant.conf') for advanced options going beyond
    # the examples provided below (e.g. various WPA Enterprise setups).
    #
    # !!!!! HEADS-UP WINDOWS USERS !!!!!
    #
    # Do not use Wordpad for editing this file, it will mangle it and your
    # configuration won't work. Use a proper text editor instead.
    # Recommended: Notepad++, VSCode, Atom, SublimeText.
    #
    # !!!!! HEADS-UP MACOSX USERS !!!!!
    #
    # If you use Textedit to edit this file make sure to use "plain text format"
    # and "disable smart quotes" in "Textedit > Preferences", otherwise Textedit
    # will use none-compatible characters and your network configuration won't
    # work!

    ## WPA/WPA2 secured
    network={
    ssid="MY_SSID"
    psk="MY_PASSWORD"
    scan_ssid=1
    }

    ## Open/unsecured
    #network={
    # ssid="put SSID here"
    # key_mgmt=NONE
    #}

    ## WEP "secured"
    ##
    ## WEP can be cracked within minutes. If your network is still relying on this
    ## encryption scheme you should seriously consider to update your network ASAP.
    #network={
    # ssid="put SSID here"
    # key_mgmt=NONE
    # wep_key0="put password here"
    # wep_tx_keyidx=0
    #}

    # Uncomment the country your Pi is in to activate Wifi in RaspberryPi 3 B+ and above
    # For full list see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2
    country=EN
    #country=GB # United Kingdom
    #country=CA # Canada
    #country=DE # Germany
    #country=FR # France
    #country=US # United States

    ### You should not have to change the lines below #####################

    ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=netdev
    update_config=1

    We save the changes to the file, close it and remove the microSD card.
    Now it's time to put it into the Raspberry , but about that in the next paragraph.

    We connect the Raspberry to the Ender and boot
    Now we can plug everything in. Insert the microSD card gently into the slot. Connect the 5V power supply to PWR-IN from Raspberry , while the adapter USB OTG to the USB signature connector.
    Optionally, we can connect a mini-HDMI to regular HDMI adapter (if we want to preview on a monitor how Raspberry boots up).
    Below are all the connections in a clear photo:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    All that's left is to connect this to the power supply and 3D printer and the hardware is ready. The LED located on the Raspberry should then light up. We still have to wait a bit (up to a few minutes) until the system boots up and automatically connects to the WiFi we indicated.
    From this point on OctoPi should be available on the local network at:
    
    http://octopi.local
    

    But if this address doesn't work, we need to get to it by the IP address itself - I'll describe how to get this IP below.

    We check the OctoPrint IP - way 1
    The first way to find out the IP address of our server OctoPrint is connecting the monitor to Raspberry PI . The monitor is connected via HDMI. When we boot up the 'Raspberry' with the monitor connected, we will see the boot information on the screen and then also the IP address assigned to it by the router.
    First booting itself Raspberry takes a little bit, system also then makes additional operations, some scanning, etc, see photos below for details:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Only after some time does the IP appear on the screen (here: 192.168.0.103 ):
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    This address may be different after the next boot (it is assigned by the DHCP router), so you do not need to remember it.

    We check the OctoPrint IP - way 2
    The second way to find out the IP address of our server OctoPrint is to use the local network IP address scanner. The IP address OctoPI will be conspicuous by its hostname octopi.local .
    We will need some kind of IP scanner - free to download of course. I chose Angry IP Scanner from here:
    https://angryip.org/download/
    Using the IP scanner itself is very simple. Once installed and running, you enter the IP range you want to check:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    What range you enter depends on what IP your local network covers, I entered from 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.0.255 :
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    We click 'Start' and after a while we can already see the active IP on the network:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Done. This is how we found the IP of our Raspberry - this is the IP which has the hostname octopi.local . For a more convenient reading of the results from the Angry IP Scanner we can also click the cog icon (settings) and under the tab ' Display ' select the option ' Alive hosts (responding to pings) only ' there

    Finalizing the OctoPrint installation
    Installations OctoPrint are already finalised via a web browser from any device on this network where our Raspberry is. We simply type
    http://octopi.local

    in the address bar and after a while the configuration page should load. If that doesn't work, then we simply need to enter the IP address there (the two ways to find out the IP address of our Raspberry I described in the previous paragraphs).
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Follow the instructions from the screen and click ' Next '. We can further configure the password for OctoPrint , I left it blank, because I don't intend to share Raspberry on the Internet and my network WiFi can only be accessed by household members.
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    We confirm our decision:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    The installer then asks about the formalities for data collection - we can refuse them this pleasure.
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Next, the installer allows us to configure how to check if our server is connected to the internet. The settings from the screenshot are the default and also, in my opinion, suitable for us. The IP address 8.8.8.8 from the screenshot is one of Google's addresses, often used for such applications.
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    In the next step we can enable or disable the plugin blacklist, this is used to block plugins that may have undesirable effects, especially for novice users. I have not enabled it:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Now we can configure our printer. First we set its name.
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Here we set the parameters about our 3D printer. It is worth checking these on the internet. For my Ender 3 I entered the size of the working area as 220mm by 220mm by 220mm.
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Further on, we can also set the speed of movement of each axis, but this is not that important because anyway these settings will eventually be taken by OctoPi not from here, but from GCode files.
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Finally, we get an informative screen where we can click 'Finish' to finalise the configuration:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    But that's not all - we still need to check the connection UART to our printer, about that in the next paragraph.

    We connect to the printer via OctoPrint
    It's almost all done. Refresh the page and a standard screen should appear to our eyes OctoPi :
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Here one would like to click the big ' Connect ' button to automatically connect to our printer. Unfortunately this doesn't work in my case. When I click ' Connect ', it Raspberry scans the ports for a while but finds nothing. Although strangely the Ender fan then speaks up, as if it is picking up something.
    The screenshot below shows what happens when I click ' Connect ':
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    As you can see, a scan is in progress, but after a while the printer search fails (' Error connecting to printer '):
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    In line with the above message, more information is under Terminal :
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    The solution to this problem for me turned out to be to select directly the appropriate port on which we have the printer:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    In my case, on the Raspberry PI Zero W , this port is called /dev/ttyUSB0 . If we don't have this port, then you need to go to settings (Settings), here:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    And add the following port names there in 'Additional serial ports':
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Port names:
    
    /dev/ttyUSB*
    /dev/ttyACM0
    /dev/ttyACM*
    /dev/ttyAMA*
    

    Of course, then you have to click 'Save' to save and a restart of the Raspberry is advisable if this happens.

    So on the main page you select the port ' /dev/ttyUSB0 ' (but in your case it may be a different one - depends on the Raspberry used and the connection) and then after clicking ' Connect ' we should get a valid connection:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    As you can see, the connection status has changed to ' Operational ', which means everything is fine.
    Once connected correctly, we can control the printer remotely via the 'Control' tab. This will allow us to check that everything is working:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Pressing the buttons in this tab live moves the axes on the 3D printer . If they don't work (the printer doesn't respond to them) it means that we have configured something wrong.
    In the adjacent tab ' Temperature ' we can control the bed heating and hot end of the printer. This is convenient because we can warm up the printer even before we export the GCode of our object we want to print:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    We can enter the temperature manually or select it from a drop-down list:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Here the temperatures are available:
    - for filament PLA - bed 60, tool 180
    - for filament ABS - bed 100, tool 210
    Interestingly these temperatures are different to the ones I have by default in the slicer program I use (Cura). In it for PLA I have a temperature of bed 60 but tool 200.
    The final choice of temperature, however, should be made by us depending on what specific filament we are using and how we like to print better - opinions vary. I recommend choosing experimentally.
    Once you have chosen your temperature, the graph shows nicely how the printer heats up:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    A moment later it is ready to print.

    Preparing the GCode for printing
    We prepare the .gcode file for the printer in the standard way, as we did before when we had to manually flip the whole thing to the microSD card. I use the Ultimaker Cura program for this.
    I open the .STL in it and generate the .gcode for it by clicking the Slice button:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    After generating the .gcode I save it to disk using the 'Save to File' button:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    It's worth remembering where on the disk we saved the .gcode, as we'll be sending it via the browser to the Raspberry shortly.
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint

    We are printing over WiFi
    We already have everything correctly configured and we already have the model exported to the format .gcode . Now we can send it to the printer, thanks to WiFi the whole thing can be done without getting up from the computer.
    On the page OctoPrint we have a list of uploaded files .gcode :
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    We can add another one there using the ' Upload ' button, or simply drag it to the web page from Windows Explorer (the drag and drop method - also works):
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    After adding it there, click the ' Load ' button to load gcode into memory:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Then information about our gcode, expected print time, etc. should appear above:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    And you can basically start printing now - click ' Print '.
    After clicking ' Print ', however, it is possible that even an already preheated printer will not start immediately. The image below explains why:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    As you can see, the printer additionally heats up. This is due to the fact that the final temperatures used are those set in the gcode file (settings from the slicer) and not those from OctoPrint. Keep this in mind.
    In GCode Viewer we can preview the print plan and verify that everything is ok and that we are printing what we want:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    Once warmed up, our object should already be printing. Under Terminal you can view the communication after UART between the printer and Raspberry , but in general I would advise against playing with the web panel while printing as any delay Raspberry can result in a slight disruption of the print.
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    And that's it - after a reasonable amount of time we should have a finished print:
    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
    ( Yes, I know, in the above photo my magnetic pad from Ender 3 is in very bad shape, but I'm still waiting for a new one and the package is delayed still by this coronavirus... )

    Final comments, tips
    Here I will give in bulk some important notes on Raspberry PI and OctoPi . Some have occurred in the text but are worth repeating.
    - OctoPI can be used even with Raspberry PI Zero W but preferably without a webcam, otherwise these weak Raspberry does not cope and serial communication with the printer is too slow which creates print artifacts
    - OctoPI can run quite slow, even while standing up it can give messages that something is wrong (web page with error information), but with me always waiting a minute longer solved everything
    - OctoPI takes temperature settings from file .gcode , setting the temperature via the web panel won't give us much, because then these values will be overwritten anyway by those in .gcode
    - OctoPI itself did not want to detect my printer on the setting Auto , I had to manually select the serial port
    - in the current configuration it is possible that the LCD screen from Ender 3 will be powered by 5V from USB from Raspberry PI (it will light up slightly even though the printer is switched off); this is rather undesirable but can be easily fixed by simply cutting off the 5V line from the connection, e.g. by taping the pin responsible for 5V with tape in the USB plug

    Summary
    I have shown here how to configure OctoPi on Raspberry Pi Zero W for use with printer 3D Ender Pro , but in principle similar steps can be applied to other Raspberry and printers.
    I've been using a 3D printer set up like this for a while now and haven't experienced any problems, artifacts or degradation in print quality, but I still stress that if you want to additionally hook up a webcam then you should use a more powerful Raspberry than I have.
    And just connecting the 3D printer to WiFi in this way I highly recommend , it greatly improves the workflow and convenience of flipping files. I wish I had done this sooner.

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  • #2 18608563
    error105
    Level 14  
    To add on my own, OctoPI is so badly optimised that you can't actually use it on anything below a RaspberryPI 3, one that it's slow, two that it increases print times (due to Octo muddling up the system and slowing down the UART sending commands to the printer) - on my Anet A8 the print instead of 8h could go well over 10, it's quite a difference. I never had a camcorder, and installed Octo on a slimmed-down Debian - so it still ran faster than on this finished image.

    Currently the best in my opinion is the Repetier-Server, it runs lightning fast even on my lethargic RaspberryPI A+, and prints go in exactly the same amount of time as from an SD card. The interface fires up instantaneously etc - the only downside I have found is that there is no camera support in the free version, I don't use it so for me there are no downsides :)
  • #3 18609653
    mkpl
    Level 37  
    error105 100% right. I have Octopi on B+ with clipper and without overclock the printer cuts when printing. After Christmas I'll switch to the Pi 3. Because the gain from such a configuration outclasses everything though (120mm/s with PET G).
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  • #4 18610014
    Jarus13
    Level 12  
    I use octoprint on a Pi 3B+, the increase in print time is negligible, with a 10h print it was a difference of about 10 minutes.

    With these adapters such a bit odd combinations, the ender board can't be clipped over the UART? 3 wires and you're done.

    p.kaczmarek2 , install the octoprint plugin in Cura, after cutting the model you click print and it sends you the Gcode to the printer itself :)
  • #5 18610178
    mkpl
    Level 37  
    Jarus13 wrote:
    I use the octoprint on the Pi 3B+, the increase in print time is negligible, with 10h printing it was a difference of about 10 minutes.

    With these adapters such a bit strange combinations, the ender board can't be clipped over the UART? 3 wires and you're done.

    p.kaczmarek2 , install the octoprint plugin in Cura, after cutting the model you click print and it sends you the Gcode to the printer itself :)


    I thought about this solution. Skip the FTDI altogether and plug straight into the UART - UART to raspberry. I'll catch up on the "back end" of printing then I'll check it out. If even that doesn't do anything then the dang USB cable is gone :)
  • #6 18610793
    error105
    Level 14  
    Jarus13 wrote:
    I use the octoprint on the Pi 3B+, the increase in print time is negligible, with 10h printing it was a difference of about 10 minutes.

    With these adapters such a bit strange combinations, the ender board can't be clipped over the UART? 3 wires and you're done.

    p.kaczmarek2 , install in Cura plugin for octoprint, after cutting the model you click print and it sends you Gcode to the printer itself :)


    You are comparing a 4core 1.5GHz to a 1 core 700Mhz, rather pointless. Leaving aside the fact that if one application requires 4 cores and does exactly the same thing as another that runs smoothly on 1, it still proves that Octo is mega unrefined and I'd probably rather continue printing from a card than on this crap :)
  • #7 18613983
    Jarus13
    Level 12  
    error105 wrote:
    Jarus13 wrote:
    I use the octoprint on the Pi 3B+, the increase in print time is negligible, with 10h printing it was a difference of about 10 minutes.

    With these adapters such a bit strange combinations, the ender board can't be clipped over the UART? 3 wires and you're done.

    p.kaczmarek2 , install the octoprint plugin in Cura, after cutting the model you click print and it sends you the Gcode to the printer itself :)


    You are comparing a 4core 1.5GHz to a 1 core 700Mhz, rather pointless. Aside from the fact that if one application requires 4 cores and does exactly the same thing as another that runs smoothly on 1, it still proves that Octo is mega unrefined and I'd probably rather keep printing from the card than on this crap :)


    I won't argue, but the makers themselves suggest using the Pi 3B, and that it somehow goes on others can be seen as a nice gesture rather than a chance to save a few quid.
    I prefer to use the octoprint though, if I had to run to another room to look after the printer or take an SD card, drop the gcode in and go there again it would make my blood boil. Although overall a lot of people keep the printer where they exist and sleep then the card is at their fingertips.
    Besides, you plug in the camera, install the spaghetti detection plugin and you don't have to worry, for example, that your print has peeled off and the printer has been wasting filament for hours.
    I suspect that if you were to start using octoprint on the suggested hardware, you would change your mind that it is not such a crap at all ;) Maybe optimisation is not its strong point, but functionality makes up for it.
  • #8 18614024
    error105
    Level 14  
    I don't have such a need, I print from PETG so the print doesn't even peel off the cold table :) And via Repetier-server I can run the print remotely on RaspberryPi zero class hardware without worrying about print speed :)
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  • #9 18619698
    ZaQ_1
    Level 10  
    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    Which Raspberry to use?
    The OctoPi is compatible with many versions of the Raspberry PI, but the final choice of 'Tiny' depends on whether you just want to send .gcode (print files) over the network or watch the progress of the print through the webcam.
    If you want to use the webcam, then you should definitely choose a more powerful microcomputer, Raspberry 3 or 4. Sending the webcam image requires bandwidth and with a weaker 'Tiny' could negatively affect the quality of the printout.


    Wait, then octoprint doesn't upload the entire gcode file to the printer's sd card, it just sends individual commands like when printing over the cable from a pc? After all, it's a backward step in development.
  • #10 18619818
    error105
    Level 14  
    ZaQ_1 wrote:
    Wait, the octoprint does not upload the entire gcode file to the sd card of the printer, but sends individual commands like when printing via cable from a pc?

    Exactly, and on top of that when the Octo hangs the printout stops, and even if the printout does not stop, disconnecting the USB causes a problem because the printer board restarts so the printout is lost again :D
  • #11 18619923
    Slawek K.
    Level 35  
    error105 wrote:
    ZaQ_1 wrote:
    Wait, the octoprint does not upload the entire gcode file to the printer sd card, but only sends individual commands like when printing via cable from pc?

    Exactly, and on top of that when the Octo hangs the printout stops, and even if the printout doesn't stop, disconnecting the USB causes a problem because the printer board restarts so the printout is lost again :D

    After all, Repetier Server does the same thing.

    And as for the lack of uploading to SD card, misguided accusation, below is a screen shot from Otco showing that you can upload either to print or SD card :

    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint

    Greetings
  • #12 18619935
    error105
    Level 14  
    Slawek K. wrote:
    After all, Repetier Server does the same thing.

    Of course it does, it's just that it's better written so I'd trust it more not to crash than Octo :)

    Slawek K. wrote:
    As for not uploading to SD card.....

    It doesn't change anything, if you have a USB cable inserted and something happens to the Octo it will restart your printer even if there is a printout flying from the SD :)
  • #13 18619946
    Slawek K.
    Level 35  
    So how is it different with Repetier Server ? no USB cable ?

    Greetings
  • #14 18619959
    error105
    Level 14  
    I wrote clearly that Repetier is better written so I would trust it more not to crash than Octo which requires 4 cores to send commands over UARC where such a thing is done by 8Mhz Attiny even :)

    A simple way to control a 3D printer over WiFi with OctoPrint
  • #15 18619976
    Slawek K.
    Level 35  
    error105 wrote:
    This changes nothing, if you have the USB cable inserted and something happens to the Octo it will restart the printer even if a printout is flying from the SD

    Same with Repetier.
    I have used Repetier Server for a long time and indeed do not see any advantages over Octo. I've been using Octo for about four years now and have NEVER had a hang-up, nor have I noticed any increase in print time, for what reason, since print time is made up of the number of head moves, i.e. the path and the speed set in the slicer. The UART buffer of the atmega2560 is the same no matter what is sending the data, Repetier or Octo. Only thing is, it's probably a matter of the hardware on which one and the other runs, for me the lack of a camera in the Repetier (only in the paid version) just disqualified the Repetier, because I have a printer in the attic, and I can't imagine running up and down the stairs every now and then to check. And the price difference of the Rpi3 doesn't bring the whole investment of the printer to its knees again.

    Best regards
  • #16 18620040
    error105
    Level 14  
    Mi Octo sat on the Rpi A every now and then, Repetier crashed once. Generally I don't use it, I go to the loft fire up the printer and the emergency power supply, insert the card and wait 2 minutes until it heats up and the printout catches the table :) Then I no longer have the need to check, after all it is supposed to work and not be watched constantly. I have only added in Gcode that after printing the table leaves nicely and presses the stop which sends a message that the print is over and that is it :)
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  • #18 18627844
    Jarus13
    Level 12  
    error105 wrote:
    Slawek K. wrote:
    After all, Repetier Server does the same thing.

    Of course it does, it's just that it's better written so I'd trust it more not to crash than Octo :)

    Slawek K. wrote:
    As for not uploading to SD card.....

    It doesn't change anything, if you have a USB cable inserted and something happens to the Octo it will restart your printer even if there is a printout flying from the SD :)


    Oy you must have become very discouraged with the octopi by putting it on anything and now you are making up silly things.... If you put it on the printer's SD card you can turn octopi off at any time.
    Secondly I have been using it for a few years and it has never once crashed so I don't know where the problem is.
    Next, why would you need to connect via USB to covert the signal 2x via ftdi or other chip when you can immediately connect via 3 wires....
  • #19 18628882
    error105
    Level 14  
    Jarus13 wrote:
    You must have become very discouraged with the acetopi by putting it on anything and now you are making up silly things

    Anything ? It works for me on the same RPi and Repetier-Server together with java and Blynk and it works smoothly, while OctoPI alone can no longer manage to work on the same hardware and does nothing more than Repetier. So in this case it is Octo and not my little one which works great in this case, I have a preview via Motion what the camera sees and surprisingly it works nicely :)

    Jarus13 wrote:
    Next is why I connect over USB to make the signal kowerto.....

    Holy crap, I was referring to the author here, although I myself had it connected that way..... out of laziness :)
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