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SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test

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    Hello my dears
    I recently found an interesting 3D printable object on the Thingiverse website and decided to do a short review of it here. I think the idea is quite good and worth promoting.

    SMD Component Magazines by robin7331
    All the information can be found on the model's author's page, on Thingiverse:
    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3952021
    This is a container for SMD components from which the end of the ribbon sticks out and we can gradually pull it out of the container and cut as much as needed. A very convenient and fresh concept compared to what I have seen before (also from us on the forum).
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test
    There are generally two types of container:
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test
    A stand for these containers is also included, along with holes for possible fixing. The containers also attach easily against the stand, using either a spring or the filament-based spring clip itself (known as 'compliant'). I have only tested it in the 'complaint' version and it works very well. The only thing you need to do is to clean the edges against which you hook this mechanism from any bumps, 'stringing' PLA.

    My template for labels
    In order to sign the containers, I prepared myself a simple template in Word. There are squares of 15mm sides (when printed on A4 paper) into which you can write the abbreviated names of the items:
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test
    I printed the labels on ordinary A4 paper and stuck them to the containers with double-sided adhesive tape.

    My printout
    I used PLA filament for the project, or more accurately its leftovers from other prints. I printed on an Ender 3D Pro. I printed various sizes of 'compliant' containers. I always printed a width of 15mm (there is 'Magazine_15' in the name), but different gap heights (1mm, 2.5mm, 2mm etc).
    I made the following observations while printing:
    - these models are quite easy to print, I printed some with old leftover filament and despite the large stringing everything is OK
    - the printing of these models can be accelerated a bit (if only by changing the Feed Rate already on the running Ender 3 with the knob)
    - these models can be printed with a larger nozzle
    During printing:
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test
    Individual boxes after printing:
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test
    Fitting:
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test
    Printing four at a time:
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test

    Signature card:
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test
    Final version of the boxes on the stand (also included is a model of it):
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test
    By the way, those white and black boxes were printed from old filament (from leftovers from larger prints) and the orange ones were printed from new filament. You can see the big difference. Well, a man is a lifelong learner, and I will still polish these boxes.

    Cost estimate
    (added a little later at users' request)
    You can easily calculate how much one box costs us - its weight is estimated in Cura. 'Low Quality' mode and 0.4mm nozzle (larger nozzle will speed up the print):
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test
    This is the container I chose - 15mm wide.
    I've also experimentally checked that this 2h print can be whittled down to as little as 1h (200% Feed Rate) and the object still comes out fine (although this also depends on the quality of the filament and the condition of the printer).
    So we have:
    - 20g weight (19g, but I rounded up for clarity of calculation)
    - print time 1h
    Now the question is what kind of filament. I use the cheapest one and it is quite OK. I pay £50 for 1kg, I buy exactly that:
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test
    (seller blurred because I don't like to do cryptic advertising).
    From 1kg spool we have 1000/20 = 50 boxes for 50 zł + shipping of filament + electricity, so one box costs just over a zloty .


    Pluses and minuses of the solution
    After several weeks of use, I am able to list the following pluses of this solution:
    + very convenient access to the SMD component
    + everything is in view
    + containers are available for different SMD components
    + the 'compliant' mechanism based on the elasticity of the print is ingenious and works well
    I also see some downsides:
    - if we have very few components, these containers waste space (but I'm not likely to be affected by this, and if I have something small, I keep outside them)
    - if the vendor sends us a cut SMD tape (it happened to me), then there is no way to put it inside this container in a sensible way

    Attachments
    Files from Thingiverse - I can give them here as they are under a Creative Commons licence:
    SMD Compon...azines.zip Download(13.23 MB)
    My 15mm by 15mm label template in docx:
    labels-..docx Download(15.88 kB)

    Summary
    I really liked this type of container for SMD components. It is much better than the containers I have seen before (also on Elektroda) and I am already using it at the moment. The components can be removed easily and quickly.
    What do you think of these containers? Do you know of any better alternatives?

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  • #2 18861830
    398216 Usunięty
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    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    What do you think of these containers?
    As you yourself pointed out in the Pros and Cons, you should buy in tape. Admittedly it takes up more space than the bulk tape itself, but the convenience and use makes up for it in full.
    Cool in my opinion, but. But if you want to have, for example, all the resistors (series), the amount of filament (cost) is striking. And if one still wanted to have the most used US at the same time.... :(
    So, if only for those elements which are used the most, or for the production (of some larger series) of devices - then indeed the convenience is enormous.
    A small comment from me - instead of an ordinary sheet of paper and a combination with double-sided adhesive tape, it would have been better to use self-adhesive paper for printers. Fewer combinations and it would have looked better.
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  • #3 18863063
    krzysssztof
    Level 21  
    Super solution !

    Could you write how much filament (grams) goes down for one such feeder ?
    Regarding alternatives : I store loose parts in sizes 0402 to 1206 in eppendorf tubes.
    They take up very little space and are quite convenient.
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    Anonymous
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  • #5 18863159
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    krzysssztof wrote:

    Could you write how much filament (grams) goes down for one such feeder ?

    I updated the topic (added a paragraph about costs) after your message.

    398216 Usunięty wrote:

    Cool in my opinion, but... But wanting to have for example all resistors (series) the amount of filament (cost) is striking.

    Do I know, you could make a smaller version of these containers. Well, and you wrote the post before I gave the cost estimate.

    With the fact that only the most frequently used is as much as I agree, I do it myself. I do it myself, regardless of the packaging.

    398216 Usunięty wrote:
    it was better to use adhesive paper for printers.

    And here you're absolutely right, I just didn't have one on hand (I was printing on regular paper at someone's place anyway), and I didn't want to complicate things anymore, especially as there's a pandemic....
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  • #6 18863389
    398216 Usunięty
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    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    From 1kg spool we have 1000/20 = 50 boxes for £50 + shipping of filament + electricity, so one box costs just over a zloty.
    Not counting energy and time ;) But - you're right; for even £1.5 it's worthwhile.
    Still about the descriptions:
    If the box would be "assigned" permanently to a specific component, such adhesive paper (after printing the markings, of course) can be foiled - definitely increases the durability, even after dust or other raid (rosin, etc.)
    easy to clean and there is still an elegant, legible description.
    As I did so in the description of the drawers in the service. After 8 years those descriptions looked like new.
  • #7 18867358
    Fish
    Level 1  
    A newer version with special places for inserting labels is also available.
    No more searching for adhesive paper or gluing.
    The printout can be laminated, cut into individual labels and inserted. Durability - to the end of the world and ...... ;)

    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test

    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3997344
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    Anonymous
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  • #9 18867949
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Koderr wrote:
    Fish wrote:
    A newer version with special insertion slots for labels is also available.
    [...]
    Yes, but only one size.


    Are you referring to the size of the SMD components/width?

    Moving the walls by a few mm is not a problem, if anyone needs other versions, let me know, I'll do it for you and upload the STL to the forum.
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  • #10 18868110
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    After all, the width of the SMD tape is standard, it's probably about the size of the label :)
  • #11 18868137
    Slawek K.
    Level 35  
    Fish wrote:
    A newer version with special insertion slots for labels is also available.
    No more searching for adhesive paper or gluing.
    The printout can be laminated, cut into individual labels and inserted. Durability - to the end of the world and ...... ;)

    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test

    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3997344

    Actually, a better thought out design than the one in the title post ;)

    Greetings
  • #12 18868150
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Freddy wrote:
    After all, the width of the SMD tape is standard, you're probably referring to the label size :)

    I may be exaggerating the accuracy, but even in the title photo:
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test
    you can see that the width of the ribbon with 1N4001 is different from that of the ribbon with 0603 10u, well the height of the elements is also different. Am I seeing poorly though?
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test


    Slawek K. wrote:

    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3997344
    Actually, a better thought out design than the one in the title post ;)


    You are right, except that this is not a separate project but a so-called 'remix' of that one.
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  • #13 18868299
    Slawek K.
    Level 35  
    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    Freddy wrote:
    After all, the width of the SMD tape is standard, it's probably about the size of the label :)

    I may be exaggerating the accuracy, but even in the title photo:
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test
    you can see that the width of the ribbon with 1N4001 is different from the ribbon with 0603 10u, well the height of the elements is also different. But am I seeing poorly?
    SMD drum containers from Thingiverse - my review and print test


    Slawek K. wrote:

    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3997344
    Actually, a better thought out design than the one in the title post ;)


    You are right, except that this is not a separate project but a so-called 'remix' of that one.

    I know, I should have written 'more refined' instead of 'rethought' ;)

    Greetings
  • #14 18868330
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    Do I see poorly though?
    Well you see, indeed my mistake.
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    Anonymous
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  • #16 18869542
    Freddy
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    After all, I apologised for the mistake. Is it not possible to make a mistake?
  • #17 18871253
    kassans
    Level 32  
    There are several tape widths with SMD components but they tend to stick to standards. The project itself cool ! :)
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    Anonymous
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  • #19 19217550
    w_d
    Level 13  
    Hi. I have also noticed these containers at a company I know but fixed on long (about 1m) steel rods.
    At first glance one would like to have these but.... What about the 'tails'? After all, I'm not going to throw away the last few pieces to make it fit nicely in my container.... On top of that, sometimes the tape is shoddy and comes apart after a short time and the pieces 'get free'. What about large components (e.g. taped modules)? etc...
    I have seen the solution of horizontal storage (boxes) but this is not calculated and is moderately convenient (chasing 0201 around the box...). Plus the quality of PLA as an anti-static material is a bit unclear.
    For me, for the time being, the 'classer' solution with cut tapes but 'improved (sealed end) appeals best.
    Regular binders and properly sealed thick dissipative films are good for this. You can also let the Chinese make money (they make small binders) - e.g. on Ali. You can buy without the triggers in Chinese on the cover https://allegro.pl/oferta/segregator-smd-pusty-8551767664. https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/8532925100_1611870027.png also have a better default tape layout (vertically - only that they do not use the whole length). However, neither the Chinese nor the Polish ones have airtight closures.
  • #20 19222224
    kassans
    Level 32  
    Koderr wrote:
    kassans wrote:
    kassans wrote:
    Tape widths with SMD components are several but they tend to stick to standards.[...]
    ...Which ones?
    Do you know of any standards that regulate this? ;-)


    Look at Pick and Place machines e.g. Siemens Siplace. there are feeders in 8mm, 12mm, 16mm, 24/32mm sizes.
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