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[Solved] Configuring Razer Sila Router with T-Mobile Optical Fiber: GPON, Bridge Mode, and Equipment

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    #31 19012747
    Anonymous
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  • #32 19026910
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    Is there an external IP in optical fibers or, as in LTE, a private, internal IP variable and is behind the operator's NAT? Is it not depending on the type of Internet and whether you want to share files on the Internet or play IP, commonly known as public, i.e. Outside worth buying, does it have any overall effect on the functioning of the internet?
  • #34 19028310
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    Here: https://www.t-mobile.pl/r/repo1/tm/documents/doc_00008/Instrukcja_portalu_mojeWiFi.pdf

    There is an instruction to operate the router that T-Mobile also gives remotely.

    On page 6 of PDF see the service connection is shown and the IP is shown. If there is a private IP such as in LTE, then the IP seen in the router starts with 100, and the IP portals that show the external IP start with 188. Considering that the services for T-Mobile optical fiber as T-Mobile itself claims an INEA hotline, and INEA on the hotline claims that they give a static IP, and a static IP is probably not private, then who is right?

    Rewrite the IP from this PDF: 157.25.242.122

    I do not know if there are websites that, after entering the IP, show whether it is external or internal IP.

    The IP from the PDF points to multimo and not a PDF

    Configuring Razer Sila Router with T-Mobile Optical Fiber: GPON, Bridge Mode, and Equipment

    This is the case with T-Mobile LTE being behind NAT. Host says NAT before umts:

    Configuring Razer Sila Router with T-Mobile Optical Fiber: GPON, Bridge Mode, and Equipment

    This is the case in LTE (I have a company) when buying an external, dynamic IP for PLN 12.30 gross. There is no NAT postmark in front of umts in Host:
    Configuring Razer Sila Router with T-Mobile Optical Fiber: GPON, Bridge Mode, and Equipment

    So it all depends on what operator for T-Mobile puts the fiber and what IP it gives, but I repeat on the regular T-Mobile hotline I say that STATIC, i.e. external, because I have not seen the constants behind NAT.
  • #35 19028579
    -Zuzia
    Level 15  
    If you do not have a public manageable IP on the end device, in this case the T-Mobile router, you will not open and forward any port.

    Subscriber documents do not mention public IP for optical fiber, people who wrote to the Customer Service Office in this matter were refused with the justification that they do not provide public IP for consumers and companies (LTE can be purchased, but that's another fairy tale). T-Mobile optical fiber users confirm that they get IP from the private pool 100.64.0.0/10, so we will always be behind NAT and completely irrelevant whether T-Mobile works on Orange or Inea infrastructure.

    PS. On the regular T-Mobile helpline they often chatter three by three, write to them if you do not believe.
  • #36 19029376
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    Then I will give you a quote from one of the replies to BOK T-Mobile. In two e-mails I got such a reply. One more thing added that until February 2020 the optical fiber operated on the same IP addressing as LTE, but since June it has changed only for new customers.
    T-Mobile's answer in the quote at the top, and what I wrote at the bottom.
    I know that on this hotline or BOK, from which they write back they can write back what they want and how they want, but there is always a "risk" that someone who knows what is going on :)

    Quote:
    Good morning,
    The Optical Fiber service provides a Public static IP address, it cannot be purchased
    variable.

    Best wishes
    Patrycja Raj
    Subscriber Service Office
    T-MOBILE POLSKA SA

    How does the IP issue look like, it is internal as in LTE, i.e. behind the operator's NAT or there is
    is external addressing, called Public? If the internal IP is whether the public IP can be purchased,
    variable with optical fiber?
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  • #37 19029981
    -Zuzia
    Level 15  
    I am afraid that the consultant does not know what is the difference between a static public IP address and a dynamic public address and why in practice the users of T-Mobile fiber get an address from a private pool.
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  • #38 19030290
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    The same as on the forum linked here, he writes about it, but no one has posted a screenshot of any. You can log in to the T-Mobile router as with any other. In the PDF file My WiFi, to which I have given a link here, it says that you are setting your password and you can give a screenshot of the IP in the router and what on the pages that provide the external IP.

    As for unblocking the ports, T-Mobile routers use this My WiFi and they do not have such an option. However, if we connect another router to the T-Mobile router, we are behind double NAT, and even if the T-Mobile router has an external IP, its NAT may block something.

    That's why I want to use my Razer Sil for Fiber. If it works and the WAN IP in my router will be the same as on the pages showing public IP, then I'll either have a lucky break or it will turn out that everything that is written on the Internet cannot be believed. I hope that if they gave the T-Mobile fiber optic router configuration on the paid T-Mobile hotline, it will start, but the T-Mobile router is free of charge anyway, because if it fails mine, at least for some time I will have internet.
  • #39 19030371
    -Zuzia
    Level 15  
    The instruction does not matter, only the contract. I have a public IP in the cable TV station, it is included in the contract. Find a similar entry for the T-Mobile fiber, unfortunately there is none. And if something is not in the contract, you cannot be sure and pursue your claim in a possible complaint.
    I'm not going to convince anyone :) In the linked thread, the T-Mobile tester is an advanced user, he claims that he gets an address from a private pool, he also wrote a complaint in the case, waits for a response. Personally, I was interested in the 900/300 Mbps option, but without a public IP, the link will be useless for me.

    If you do, write what and how, attach screenshots, I'm cheering, but I can bet you will have a private IP.
  • #40 19031028
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    I have no choice. I live 15 km outside Lublin in the direction of Zamość, before Zamość Piaski and only T-Mobile wants to install optical fiber, secondly, it changes LTE to optical fiber during the LTE contract, so benefit me. In two years, he'll probably change how he survives all the freaks :P

    Since an advanced user writes on that forum, I wonder if he uses the equipment from T-Mobile from their optical fiber or from his own?

    I am a regular internet user and I have never had to unblock ports, although in Windows the Origin app once wanted to play some NFS over the Internet crashed that I had unblocked ports and said thank you briefly for playing online. Interestingly, my cousin was with me in the summer with PS4, he plays everything online on t-mobile LTE with a private IP without any problems, despite the fact that the console shows NAT 3 in the internet test.
    I don't play, so I don't have a big reason to have a public IP. In the company where I work for my uncle, I needed a public IP from LTE T-Mobile for the server and website, so I turned them on a variable for 12.30 gross, the service is called "APN NET", also has a company in a remote area and only LTE for now it can have, and the company has no limit with a speed of up to 200Mb / s.
    A friend has in Orange and through My Orange in the smartphone app as he entered the optical fiber, he has Static IP active in the services at no additional charge without the possibility of switching off. It has 600 Mb / s for all PLN 69.

    I am proud of what and how, because I am waiting for it impatiently, because in this village I did not believe that anyone would ever hook it on me. My deadline is between November 17 and 26, but this is the second fortress on the hotline.
  • #41 19031068
    -Zuzia
    Level 15  
    Garoz666 wrote:
    Since an advanced user writes on that forum, I wonder if he uses the equipment from T-Mobile from their optical fiber or from his own?
    He's playing with the equipment from T-Mobile and he is playing something, and the lack of a public IP does not bother him too much, so it all depends on the needs. In my opinion, however, it is worth having a public address, even if you do not need it today, someday you may find a service that will require it.
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  • #42 19031114
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    I wonder why operators, especially with optical fibers, do not go in IPv6, where even cheap routers below PLN 100 or up to PLN 150 have IPv6 support? :)
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    #43 19031188
    -Zuzia
    Level 15  
    Orange optical fiber has IPv4 and IPv6 (Dual Stack). T-Mobile just has a bizarre policy in this regard.
  • #44 19031262
    bbartek93
    Level 16  
    The IP is private at T-Mobile, I wrote about it on the media forum. I have my own router Huawei AX3 Pro, I had their router maybe 5 minutes as soon as the installer set it up. I have no problem in games. I will not set up my server via private IP to be hit by someone.
    The router gets the WAN IP 100.64. *. * And on the page I have 46.205.197.20 and the last two octets change with the router reset.

    Configuring Razer Sila Router with T-Mobile Optical Fiber: GPON, Bridge Mode, and Equipment

    Routing is from T-Mobile, because after the packets leave your apartment, they already follow the path of T-Mobile, not Orange, they only use their cables, not routes, compared to Orange, it's like comparing the toddler (Orange) to Porsche (T-Mobile).
  • #45 19032288
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    Something on Huaweiu, did you configure this VLAN or only support the cable in the WAN from this "socket" or what is it professionally called and you entered the username and password from the contract? If you could drop the configuration screenshots here, or for a private message, I would be grateful, I mean Internet configuration, and the login and password to the Internet are hidden :)

    Just out of curiosity for WiFi, do you use a common SSID for both bands or separately? Because in my case, the common SSID on Razer Sila pisses me off because even in the same room as the router, the Samsung TV only connects to 2.4Ghz, so I turned off.

    So the T-Mobile fiber is faster than Orange? :)
  • #46 19032433
    bbartek93
    Level 16  
    Login and password pppoe, vlan id 35 and that's it. Wifi networks separated, of course.
    Is it faster? It depends. Orange gives you 1Gb / s of T-Mobile 900Mb / s in the 1000Kb / s standard, which means that you will never get these 900Mb / s on the speed test. Interestingly, the upload is always above 300.
    And more depends on routing, you have a bad road, clogged contacts, like in such Orange, sometimes the transfer can drop.
    On Origin I recently downloaded the game, it went 92MB / s, on steam it goes at 70MB / s. Look carefully at the units he writes. :)
  • #47 19032437
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    On the 1st page of this topic I posted configuration screenshots for this Razer Sila. VLAN is ok, but I mean a screenshot where the login and password for WAN are entered, I have no choice of PPPoE, but it should start when I type, what do you think? :)
  • #48 19032442
    bbartek93
    Level 16  
    If you don't try, you won't find out. Set vlan only to 35 and priority to 0, because I see in a different tab you have every login and password ..
  • #49 19035724
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    I know that it may not make sense what I came up with, but I decided to write. :)

    What if the router from T-Mobile on the IP fiber is public, it can detect what router is connected. Have you checked? :)

    Because I am a bit bothered by this PDF My WiFi where the public IP is shown. What would it make sense if it is internal ultimately?
  • #50 19035782
    bbartek93
    Level 16  
    On the T-Mobile router, I also had a private IP, because on the website it was public behind NAT.
    In general, you can find two routings in T-Mobile. My friend has a completely different routing from me, just like one user on the Orange forum has a different routing from me, the same as my friend, and my friend lives 40km away from me.

    Sample difference, my routing on the left and theirs on the right:
    Configuring Razer Sila Router with T-Mobile Optical Fiber: GPON, Bridge Mode, and Equipment

    Configuring Razer Sila Router with T-Mobile Optical Fiber: GPON, Bridge Mode, and Equipment

    My to lux.valve.net:
    Configuring Razer Sila Router with T-Mobile Optical Fiber: GPON, Bridge Mode, and Equipment
    Their to lux.valve.net:
    Configuring Razer Sila Router with T-Mobile Optical Fiber: GPON, Bridge Mode, and Equipment

    My tpix.pl:
    Configuring Razer Sila Router with T-Mobile Optical Fiber: GPON, Bridge Mode, and Equipment
    Their tpix.pl:
    Configuring Razer Sila Router with T-Mobile Optical Fiber: GPON, Bridge Mode, and Equipment

    There are many differences, mostly a plus in my case, because I have smaller and more stable pings to most hosts abroad.



    Edit:
    I connected their router to the test and the WAN IP is the same as on the website, but you are still behind NAT .. So this is a bug in their router, which cannot be redirected anyway.
    Configuring Razer Sila Router with T-Mobile Optical Fiber: GPON, Bridge Mode, and Equipment
    I cloned the MAC address to my router and the IP is still private, which does not change on the router, the only IP that changes are those behind NAT.

    Oh, and I'm still waiting for an answer to the complaint regarding private IP, they answer for a long time, because I have put a lot of questions there, including not only private IP, on October 29 I received an SMS about the accepted application for implementation, and on Friday I received a letter with the notification that 21.10 .2020 received an application from me and are waiting for a reply :D I wonder what they'll write back.
  • #51 19035963
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    Let me know what they reply to you out of curiosity. For me, it does not differ much with this IP, I will definitely not spend a permanent IP for it, but if they would give a public, dynamic one for PLN 5, I would take it.

    Well, I'm waiting for their phone when they come to do between 17 and 26 November, it is good that there is no obligation to use their routers because they are always one big mistake :)
  • #52 19041422
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    Unfortunately, Razer Sila has died.

    On November 12, I went to a friend to whom they connected the optical fiber from T-Mobile a week ago. Miszka 20 km from me.

    He uses TP-Link Archer C9 and it works.

    I took my Razer, set the VLAN to 35, priority 0 and Save, then in the VAN settings we entered the login and password from his contract 6 times, yesterday I almost knew his login by heart :P :P

    He didn't connect. A colleague is a network operator in one of the banks in Lublin. He fired TELNET on this Razer Sila and somehow checked that he did not support PPPoE at all, even on the basis of automatic detection.

    How do you think you can advertise it in X-Kom for this reason? Will they recognize and return the money? Bought on September 25, 2020.

    I bought at MediaMarkt for 194 with pennies Huawei AX3 Dual-Core :) Since you write here that it works, I am calm, but is there a chance to advertise it or give it to Allegro?
  • #53 19041828
    bbartek93
    Level 16  
    I have a Quad Core. But 2-core should do 900Mb / s too.
    I think you can try to advertise it, but they may disagree unless they go your way. Tell them that you saw the VLAN ID option in the panel and a place to enter the login and password of the service, and that the PPPoE connection you are interested in is not suitable, because it does not connect. so that the equipment from behind so much money does not support PPPoE - shame .. But how is Razer, ordinary sh * t .. Like everything from this manufacturer :)

    PS, have you done any tests, what routing does your colleague have? Same as me? Private IP too?
  • #54 19041861
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    Approx. I'll try to advertise.

    I did not take a screenshot because there was no time when I was picking up the router. The IP started 156 on TP-Link and on my IP page too, the host said, static.public.inea.com

    He turned off the router, 2 minutes and turned it back on. It has not changed. Okla's speed test showed 620Mb by 91Mb. It did not clone the MAC address. He did not connect the router and from T-Mobile at all, he immediately his own. After logging in to My Wifi, it detects TP-Link and shows the IP from the router a.
  • #55 19041870
    bbartek93
    Level 16  
    So it has a permanent public IP from INEA. Interesting. If it's your friend, ask him to enter the first 3 octets of this IP (without the fourth, not to give his whole IP, which is invariable), it will work. The first thing I see is that the net from T-Mobile uses the IP from whom it leases the link, and if they use IP from INEA, routing should also be from INEA, so it's nice if you asked for some tests, e.g. to the pages I pasted above.
  • #56 19041898
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    I called INEA, they said that if they put cables on behalf of T-Mobile, and this is the case in 90% of cases, it goes through their infrastructure, and they allocate a fixed ipv4 for PLN 10 a fixed ipv6 with an ipv4 tunnel outside. There are two companies that make optical fiber for T-Mobile, INEA and Orange. Orange provides private IPs from the new pool for Neostrada. I am commissioned by INEA.

    My friend does not get tired of it, so it will be hard, we will see what I will have in 2 weeks. I plan to make photos as a copy, and maybe a video on YT.

    I myself checked this IP on my smartphone after connecting to his wi-fi.
  • #57 19042219
    bbartek93
    Level 16  
    IT specialist from the bank and unknowing? OK.
    There are no private IPs from the new pool because private pools are immutable. You can have the same private IP in company X as in company Y. Public IP is broadcast behind NAT. These IPs are then from T-Mobile, not from Orange.
  • #58 19043778
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    bbartek93 wrote:
    IT specialist from the bank and unknowing? OK.
    There are no private IPs from the new pool because private pools are immutable. You can have the same private IP in company X as in company Y. Public broadcasting IP
    :P is behind NAT. These IPs are then from T-Mobile, not from Orange.


    I was writing on the phone. The IT specialist is the brother of a friend who does not live with him, he was there for a while, I asked him to check the router. Then I thought about IP.

    Today I received a project of Fiber optic installation from the Fibee company from the mayor. He signs and gives it to the village administrator on Monday. Also, since I have a project, there will be an optical fiber. I know that some people may think that I am waiting for it as for water or oxygen :D , but if you have a whole life, first neostrade to 4Mb / s, then LTE to 60Mb / s, optical fiber up to 600Mb / s is like buying majbach :P
  • #59 19045215
    Garoz666
    Level 5  
    Maybe someone is the easiest way to explain the operation of this Mesh in routers or as Huawei Link + calls it? Let's say I buy a second Huawei AX3 router, I put a floor lower, set only to Link + and what, it works like a Wi-Fi amplifier or how because I read, read and fooled quite what is going on and what's better, fun in Mesh, Link + or buy a Wi-Fi amplifier Fi?
  • #60 19045242
    bbartek93
    Level 16  
    Te Link + is something like Mesh. It's always better to do APka by cable, if you want to put the floor below.

    Quote:
    Link + settings
    You can create a Wi-Fi Link + network by connecting several Link + devices. In this network, all devices use the same settings as the main router, including Wi-Fi network name, password, login password, Wi-Fi timer, Wi-Fi black and white list, time zone, and auto update settings. Changes to the primary router settings are automatically synchronized with the secondary routers.
    You will be able to connect to the Wi-Fi network whether you are in the living room, study room or bathroom, as long as you stay within range.

    What is this?
    When Link + is on: The router can connect to other Wi-Fi devices that also have Link + turned on and create a smart network. The router's Wi-Fi network name and password are automatically synchronized with the main router.
    When Link + is turned off: The router cannot create a smart network. The Wi-Fi network name and password set by the user remain.
    Wi-Fi password: With this password, Link + routers can automatically create a network and keep the transmitted data secure. Changing this password will disconnect from the Wi-Fi network.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around configuring a Razer Sila router with T-Mobile's optical fiber service, specifically addressing the use of GPON technology and the need for Bridge Mode. Users express uncertainty about the equipment provided by T-Mobile, particularly whether it supports Bridge Mode and how to connect their own routers. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the ONT (Optical Network Terminal) setup, the necessity of VLAN configuration (specifically VLAN ID 35), and the implications of using PPPoE for internet connectivity. Users share experiences with T-Mobile's service, noting that it often operates behind NAT with private IP addresses, complicating port forwarding and external access. The discussion also touches on the performance of various routers, including the Razer Sila, and the potential need for additional equipment to enhance Wi-Fi coverage.
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