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How to drill deeper? The drill doesn't want to go any further.

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  • #1 19004347
    asaledr
    Level 4  
    Hello.

    I need to drill a hole for a dowel in the wall. I don't really know what kind of wall it is, I don't know what types it is, definitely not a Styrofoam one, a normal one like those usually made in apartments.
    The peg is 3 cm. I drilled 2 cm without any problem, but it doesn't want to go any further. I only have a regular 2-speed, 1300 rpm cordless screwdriver that I use for household chores. The question is, with what I have, can I do anything to drill deeper?
    Maybe I have the wrong drill bit? But I don't know how to tell them apart, I had several and it just worked best for me so I did it this way. Maybe you need something special?

    If there is no method for me, I will buy 2 cm pegs instead of 3, but the 3 cm ones were included in the set, so I wanted to do it with them.
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  • #2 19004358
    internick
    Level 36  
    If it's concrete, use a hammer and a concrete drill, e.g. rent one with SDS.
    If it's concrete, maybe it's reinforced and you're drilling into metal.
    Or maybe you had a drill, you dulled it and that's why it's standing there. Perhaps by replacing the drill you can drill the missing 1 cm with your screwdriver.
  • #3 19004362
    adamjur1
    Level 41  
    I assume this isn't a joke. :D :| :cry:
    And some more information - what kind of wall is it, what kind of building (old one with thick plaster, new one with thick plaster, socialist block?)
    The diameter of the drill bit, what does it have on the tip?
    Which screwdriver with or without impact?
    Maybe you hit a concrete wall with 2 cm of plaster with a crappy drill or a weak screwdriver without an impact,
    Or, with a better hammer drill and a widia drill, you hit reinforcement (or worse, a gas pipe :cry: )
    You ask questions like my grandmother when she wanted to hang a holy picture 50 years ago.
    If I have offended any moderator, please send this entry to a separate trash bin. :|
    Regards J
  • #4 19004404
    wodzu_1
    Level 25  
    asaledr wrote:
    I don't really know what kind of wall it is, I don't know what types it is

    You're right, you have the right not to know.
    asaledr wrote:
    as normal as is usually done in apartments.

    But now, you've gone too far. Think logically about how to answer: an ordinary wall can (recommended) be drilled with an "ordinary" drill, after all, this is absurd.
    asaledr wrote:
    Maybe I have the wrong drill bit?

    It is impossible to answer this question either.
    Show me this drill.
    We are not clairvoyants.
    No offence.
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  • #5 19004448
    asaledr
    Level 4  
    Comparing various photos, it seems to me that it is this type of drill in terms of shape.

    https://www.skil.pl/media//contentmanager/items/toolsusage/d/r/drill-8600_600.png

    And the color is silver, but quite matte, not shiny. Maybe tomorrow I will be able to take a photo and show it.

    As for the wall, it is simply a wall in a block of flats from 2009. Well, that's all I know, I don't know how to check the type of wall. It's not a wall for the next room, but a wall that separates my apartment from the other apartment/staircase. When you knock on it, there is no empty sound like on the walls in the next room, but a full sound. I would love to tell you what the wall is, but I just don't know how to check it. I won't call a specialist to tell me the name of the wall. For me, a wall is like a wall and I can't tell the difference. The screwdriver has no impact.
    Maybe to make it easier, I will ask such questions.

    1) Perhaps this wall has two layers and these 2 cm went smoothly, and then there is some other material and you have to start drilling with this drill and then change the drill?
    2) Incl. Is it possible to do something like this in walls with a cordless screwdriver without impact?
    3) If the concrete is actually reinforced and I reached the metal, maybe try using a metal drill this time?
  • #6 19004466
    ewoo
    Level 30  
    asaledr wrote:
    1) Perhaps this wall has two layers and these 2 cm went smoothly, and then there is some other material and you have to start drilling with this drill and then change the drill?
    asaledr wrote:
    3) If the concrete is actually reinforced and I reached the metal, maybe try using a metal drill this time?


    Maybe you've reached the steel pipe. Don't drill steel with a drill bit, because if it's a gas pipe, you know...

    Shine a light into the hole and look, you should recognize the metal.
    Maybe you only went through the plaster and the block or concrete is too much for a drill and a drill.
  • #7 19004471
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    asaledr wrote:
    Incl. Is it possible to do something like this in walls with a cordless screwdriver without impact?
    Yes, in the wall of a block of flats made of prefabricated panels, but it may take more than 30 minutes. Concrete drill or bit. Press very hard on the drill. It is necessary to take breaks and cool the drill every few seconds at most - otherwise it will melt. Don't get burned by the drill. :-)
    You may have found reinforcement, but that's a bit shallow.

    Added after 1 [minute]:

    asaledr wrote:
    If the concrete is actually reinforced and I reached the metal, maybe try using a metal drill this time?
    In the circumstances described, it is better to make the hole in another place.
  • #8 19004555
    asaledr
    Level 4  
    ewoo wrote:
    Maybe you only went through the plaster and the block or concrete is too much for a drill and a drill.


    Let's assume it happened as you say. I won't change the drill so quickly, I don't have anyone to borrow it from, so maybe you could tell me which drill would be appropriate to at least try to drill in this concrete and which one would be suitable for drilling in this hollow brick, e.g. Show me a photo of what such a drill looks like, I'll buy one and try it. .

    I will also shine a light into this hole to make sure everything is OK, but it is literally 15 cm from the place where the drill hangs in a large cabinet, so I doubt there is any pipe there.
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  • #9 19004587
    rafbid
    Level 33  
    A concrete drill with a 4-sided tip will drill even through reinforcement. Drill for reinforced concrete.
  • #10 19004708
    palmus
    Level 34  
    Don't be afraid of the gas pipe, they usually go on top.
    If it is a cordless screwdriver, the drill could have stopped on an ordinary, small pebble that is one of the components of concrete.
    If you shine a flashlight into the hole, you will see whether the reinforcing bar is shiny there.
    The solutions to the problem have already been given above.
  • #11 19005438
    asaledr
    Level 4  
    I will try your advice and let you know.
    And this is a photo of the drill I tried. Can you help me determine what this drill is for?

    https://ibb.co/z6myLCv
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    #12 19005464
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    asaledr wrote:
    And this is a photo of the drill I tried. Can you help me determine what this drill is for? https://ibb.co/z6myLCv
    It looks like it's for metal.
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    #13 19005716
    ewoo
    Level 30  
    freebsd wrote:
    It looks like it's for metal.


    That's why only 2 cm went in.

    @asaledr You need something like this.

    How to drill deeper? The drill doesn't want to go any further.

    Notice the end of this drill.
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    #14 19006005
    adamjur1
    Level 41  
    Maybe I'm repeating other answers but I can't help myself
    And you drilled so much with this "drill" - you probably managed to penetrate the plaster, then there is the concrete of the slab (or the concrete block structure) - not even the reinforcement. By drilling with low speed and pouring water over it (or cooling the drill in a cup of water), after about 20 minutes you may drill this centimeter. And this will be the most important centimeter in this construction task, only the pin will be held in it....
    And generally, what's going on with it? Maybe a self-adhesive hook from a well-known company will suffice? :D :D :D
    Regards J
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  • #15 19006490
    asaledr
    Level 4  
    Thanks everyone for your help.

    The drill was actually the problem. I bought the ones for concrete like you showed me here and everything worked out great. The hole is drilled, the pin is inserted and everything is installed.

    An electric photo frame, it's not heavy, but there was a peg in the set, so I installed it that way. The topic can be closed thanks.
  • #16 19006678
    palmus
    Level 34  
    Well, let me tell you, the drill thing is like making a spelling mistake at school. :-)
    PS. You should close the thread you started yourself.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a user attempting to drill a 3 cm hole in a wall for a dowel but encountering resistance after 2 cm. The user has a cordless screwdriver without impact functionality and is unsure about the wall type, which is likely concrete or a concrete block. Responses suggest that the user may be using an inappropriate drill bit, possibly one designed for metal rather than concrete. Recommendations include using a concrete drill bit with a 4-sided tip and applying pressure while drilling, as well as cooling the drill to prevent overheating. The user successfully resolves the issue by purchasing the correct concrete drill bits, allowing them to complete the task.
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