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Choosing the Right Drill Bit for Brick Walls in Garage: Concrete vs Other Types

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  • #1 17162105
    geforc
    Level 14  
    Hello, gentlemen, it is simple drilling, but I have a problem, I have brick walls in the garage and I have to drill a few holes for the shelves. I was drilling today without hammering with a concrete drill bit and instead of a 6mm hole it got blown 8 or better. I have never drilled in brick, from what I have read you can not drill with a hammer, but what drill bits to choose? typical for concrete? everyone writes or says something else. What do you advise?
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  • #2 17162116
    markutek87
    Level 10  
    A normal concrete drill bit. The so-called drill widiowe has such "wings" at the end, to put it this way. Measure the diameter of the drill bit on these wings, not on the chuck.
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  • #4 17162159
    markutek87
    Level 10  
    JCB is a brand of some market? Because I know it about construction machines, but not about drills. What kind of brick is it? White, red, clinker? Sometimes a stone can be found in the bricks, then the drill will "come off". And of great importance is a good perpendicular, safe guidance.
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  • #5 17162172
    arigato
    Level 28  
    You can drill with hammer in bricks only in moderation. If someone denies using the maximum power of the drill, it may be uninteresting.
    It is safest (especially in building materials) to use the so-called pre-drilling. We use a drill with a relatively small diameter. If the nominal hole is to be 10mm, first use the fi-5 drill. Later, you can perform main drilling, but also without rush, if you want precision.
  • #6 17162182
    markutek87
    Level 10  
    I do not drill professionally, but I agree with the previous speaker. I drill without impact, with small turns, the brick goes easily, so there is no point in drilling at full speed with strong pressure. However, when we hit a stone, it has to go down ...
  • #7 17162222
    geforc
    Level 14  
    I was drilling 4 holes and every time it twisted and it made a big hole. It is a red brick, probably some old one, because they are old garages. I'd be pissed if there were holes in the house, but in the garage it doesn't bother, although it pisses me off that I can't drill and hang stupid shelves normally. Maybe I will ask differently, which drill bits do you recommend, which company? at most I will buy and then I will try.
  • #8 17162235
    markutek87
    Level 10  
    Cheap and for me as an amateur, Leroy Merlin and Dexter are good.

    Or Irwin, most stores can be bought
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  • #9 17162245
    abart64
    Level 33  
    In concrete, it also happens when you drill with a "made-to-measure" drill, it is 1/4 of the oversize.
    Drill with smaller drill bits and only at the end with the dimensional one.
  • #10 17162364
    geforc
    Level 14  
    And comparing Irwin and Dexter, what's better?

    Because I'm going to buy the drill box only and refill the drill bits by myself, without buying a ready-made set
  • #11 17162715
    wiesiekmisiek
    Level 33  
    In my opinion, Irwin. I have drill bits from this company from a purchase much earlier (maybe 15 years ago) when I was making a dozen or so holes in the bathroom tiles. The 6 and 8 mm drill bits went without any problems and even in red-bricked brick. The fact is that at that time I was using mechanical impact (drilling in brick - for glaze without impact). The holes were perfect. Dexter - I didn't use drills.
  • #12 17162742
    Ricoh_220

    Level 38  
    Gentlemen, one thing is simple drill bits, but as already written, drill with a small one and then ream it.
    As for the quality of drills, I have an example, I had to screw the toilet at home, 4 bad drills went, I went, I bought an expensive set, the same drill, and I use it as an amateur to this day.
    As my experience, I can say that I used to work at TPSA for 13 years as a drill fitter constantly on the move.
    I recommend Hilti
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  • #14 17162775
    arigato
    Level 28  
    I can add that drill bits are good that keep this widia tip where we still expect it after drilling is finished. Nothing has changed here, unfortunately :D
    I hit my answer right after my friend.
    I can honestly write that it all depends on the so-called expectations, because if a colleague is going to fight hard sometimes, it is worth focusing on the quality of proven producers. With very occasional adventures with drilling, chiselling and other construction work - I would also buy cheap, BUT! continuously: being aware of this during operation.
    Okay - I read it with understanding and keep writing :D
    It is like buying a set of keys with this and that. Does it pay off or not?
    Well, but I already have such keys. Well, but the others will never be of any use to me. Well, when it turns out that the big one can help ...
    The colleague himself sees that no one colleague is able to advise one hundred percent on such a matter. I write honestly and I hope that my friend will not hold it against me.
  • #15 17162798
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #16 17162800
    geforc
    Level 14  
    Well, but I read the tests and reviews of the Irvin Speedhammer plus and they are good, everyone recommends, only the question is whether the ones in the set, which I put on, are the same as if you buy them individually.
  • #17 17162806
    Ricoh_220

    Level 38  
    This is exactly how the tips hardened many times I saw torn out with any drill, the material was weak.
    Theoretically, they are strengthened with a plus.
    At TPSA, when there was an action of securing subscriber mailboxes (locking mailboxes with a padlock), the drills were daringly armored, they cost a lot but they worked.
  • #18 17162808
    markutek87
    Level 10  
    The ones you showed are on SDS, make sure you have such a handle in your drill.
    The price of the ones you showed is in sets of PLN 10 per piece, when you buy in a shop for pieces, you will pay more or less the same.
    The set is more practical in my opinion, they are nicely arranged in a box, if you want to drill something, you have the right drill at hand, and if something breaks, you can always buy the right piece for the set.
    I would take a smaller one, it is enough for most wall plugs needed at home.
  • #20 17162823
    Ricoh_220

    Level 38  
    As a colleague wrote, check whether the sds mount or ordinary because the Sds will get runout in the ordinary holder.
    I wrote about Hilti but I was talking about professional equipment and the drill and drills probably got a bit faster.
  • #21 17162827
    geforc
    Level 14  
    Ricoh_220 wrote:
    As a colleague wrote, check whether the sds mount or ordinary because the Sds will get runout in the ordinary holder



    I have SDS-Plus
  • #22 17162831
    Ricoh_220

    Level 38  
    And what handle?

    Added after 59 [seconds]:

    Sds latch or screw?
  • #23 17162834
    arigato
    Level 28  
    Actually, SDS is always the same, only the PLUS design has some vibration resistance and greater reliability in the event of a blockage. I am writing a bit from the hat, because I don't remember exactly anymore. For drills, it shouldn't matter.
    The ones from fi seven to twelve are the best for such home drilling. And of course, as has already been said, it is appropriate to have something small for the preliminary drilling :D
    And maybe my colleague has a kind eye on my earlier "misdemeanor", because as they say - the example comes from above ...
  • #24 17162838
    markutek87
    Level 10  
    Buy what you want ;) I, as an amateur, drilling 10 cross holes per year, I certainly wouldn't not notice the difference between Irwin / Hilti / Bosch or something else ...
    A colleague, drilling in TP, had to have top-shelf equipment, otherwise he would cry while drinking in reinforced concrete. The question is whether you need it? The price of Irwin / Dexter (I have dealt with them) is about PLN 10 / item for popular sizes. I don't know about Hilti, I suspect it's 2X more expensive.
  • #25 17162841
    Ricoh_220

    Level 38  
    I agree with the previous speaker, I played expensive equipment, but my questions are not without sense. I was tormenting Celmy before and they were falling.

    Please show the fur (fastening) of the drill
  • #26 17162844
    geforc
    Level 14  
    I was reading, I read everything, I used to buy cheap drill bits and so I collected scrap that was useless, for the money I spent on it, I would probably buy a nice set from Hilti ...

    I have a latch in sds plus
  • #27 17162849
    markutek87
    Level 10  
    buy :) You will not regret the set from Hilti :)
  • #28 17162850
    Ricoh_220

    Level 38  
    This is a simple topic, buy an sds 5 drill bit and drill slowly then slowly for a larger ream
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  • #29 17162851
    arigato
    Level 28  
    markutek87 wrote:
    Buy what you want ;) I, as an amateur, drilling 10 cross holes per year, I certainly wouldn't not notice the difference between Irwin / Hilti / Bosch or something else ...

    And, of course, there is a point in this, but when using professional equipment with a decent stroke, it may very quickly turn out that mediocrity cannot cope with it. We take out the drill and it is missing frog .
    It is not that I want to praise the so-called companies, but sometimes the unknown does not even have time to appear, and already ends.
  • #30 17162854
    Ricoh_220

    Level 38  
    @ markutek87 I honestly say that it works, I wrote that it was expensive, but I gave a different solution. Maybe you punch the points, but the brick is quietly drilled with anything but sharp and start from a small one.
    Small and forward
    .

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the challenges of drilling into brick walls in a garage, specifically addressing the use of appropriate drill bits. Users recommend using concrete drill bits with "widia" tips, emphasizing the importance of starting with a smaller diameter drill bit for precision before enlarging the hole. The use of hammer drills is debated, with suggestions to drill without impact for better control, especially in older red bricks. Brands like Irwin, Dexter, and Hilti are mentioned, with users sharing experiences regarding their effectiveness. The consensus is to invest in quality drill bits to avoid issues with oversized holes and to ensure better drilling results.
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