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    Dear forumers,

    Like probably most of you, I've been struggling for years with the problem of a large number of electronic, mechanical and other small "appendages", often in individual pieces jumbled up somewhere under the OTHER label. The drawer organisers I have don't quite work, mainly because the size of a single drawer is too large. At the moment, for example, I could only separate the resistors into 8 groups, which is far too small to be able to quickly find the right value. It was then that I came up with the idea of using a document binder, into which would be clipped suitable trays with a dozen/dozen lockable compartments. I started scouring the shops and, unfortunately, found nothing that even partially fulfilled this idea. I abandoned the idea until I owned my first 3d printer. That project was a complete failure. However, after a few years, when my experience with 3d printing and design had increased somewhat, I decided to try again.

    Project ideas:

    - a4 size bins clipped into a typical binder with a height of approximately 80mm
    - 3 layers of approximately 24-25mm each
    - made using 3D printing technology with reasonable printing time
    - various configurations of compartment sizes
    - each compartment closed with a separate lid

    The project was created in the Fusion360 application. Each tray is made up of 3 modules, each module has a 3-column layout, each column in turn can consist of 2, 3 or 4 compartments. The modules are joined by clips which, depending on the quality of the print, allow the print to be disconnected or are joined once and for all. After joining the three modules, a binder holder must be attached on one side and an additional stabilising connecting element on the other (although this is not essential). The lids of the compartments are inclined in such a way as to allow the individual lids to be pulled out. Unfortunately, this generates the need to print the guides at a certain angle, which in turn reduces the smoothness of the lid when sliding. In the end, however, this did not prove to be a major problem. In addition, each lid has spring-loaded latches that lock it in the maximum open/maximum closed position. The lids are also designed in 2 versions. Initially, I assumed that the lids would be labelled directly on them. Later, however, I also created a version that allows a card and transparent film to be inserted.

    Printing a single module (1/3 of the tray) takes me about 5 hours. The walls are 0.8mm, so with a standard 0.4 nozzle there are 2 outlines. This is the optimum value for achieving the right rigidity. The printing time for a 1-binder set is as much as 50 hours or more. Personally, I printed the trays on one printer and the lids on the other. The latter required additional time for accurate sizing. This unfortunately required a lot of testing and corrections of dimensions within +-1%.

    Summary:

    Unfortunately I have not yet had the opportunity to test how the system performs in practice. After printing 2 layers, I started to notice some problems that didn't seem relevant to me before. I still think the idea is a good one, but this kind of organiser may not be as versatile as I originally thought. One problem is the not very configurable layout of the compartments. In the end, there were 3 types of modules (6, 9 and 12) and this is a bit too few. The ideal would be to be able to configure the sizes in each column as desired. Division into 3 columns could also be a problem, but this is forced by the design of the lids. A division into 2 columns, for example, could force the need to change the account under which the lids are set. Another problem is the way the modules are combined. Depending on the calibration of the printer, they may be difficult to disassemble or be connected virtually permanently. Ultimately, it should be possible to detach a single module and change to another. This would require redesigning the abutments that connect the modules.

    What I am satisfied with:

    - assumptions are largely fulfilled
    - many items which are not too heavy can be stored in it
    - the containers are relatively lightweight and yet do not look very fragile
    - the lids hold quite firmly and are unlikely to open without reason
    - the binder wrapping should protect the contents from slight injuries
    - this is some basis for the design of the next version
    - the design was made in practice, not on paper

    What I am not satisfied with:

    - poor configurability of compartment sizes compounded by difficult/impossible to dismantle modules and practical impossibility to swap sizes
    - the smallest compartments are still much too large (for me, many small items do not even cover the bottom)
    - heavier items make noise when handling the trays, plus there is of course a certain risk of spilling the contents as the trays are often turned upside down
    - nevertheless long printing time
    - no inside view due to opaque lid
    - you have to get used to the way the tray opens and closes, sometimes the lid can slip out of the guide when closing it a little too gently
    - the size of the tray could be a little smaller as it sometimes protrudes slightly beyond the protective wrapping
    - the design under Fusion360 is very difficult to modify

    What I would like to change in the next version:

    - allow more extensive configuration of the layout, perhaps using openscad or openjscad
    - a different system for connecting modules
    - the possibility of generating additional partitions inside a given drawer

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  • #2 19189886
    ArturAVS
    Moderator
    A nice idea, but with a really large assortment (I have over 10,000 items myself) it may not be very profitable. As I recently ordered a "must to be" it came nicely packed in small envelopes and easily fit such 10 pcs into one drawer (SMD 1206).
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  • #3 19189924
    etet
    Level 15  
    There is no solution that will satisfy everything. I present this as one possibility. Some people like pouches, others like matchboxes (anyone else using this??).
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  • #4 19190276
    maras52
    Level 14  
    etet wrote:
    anybody else using this??


    Me, inherited from my dad :P Although I'm slowly switching to strings ;)
  • #5 19190496
    Baskhaal
    Level 20  
    Not suitable for sensitive components, zero ESD protection.
    On the other hand, for junk like passives even interesting.
  • #6 19190748
    andrzejlisek
    Level 31  
    I'm not making a judgement on the point or usefulness, as it's the ette that will use it, not me or another person. In my opinion, drawers are much better than string bags and plain plastic bags (which is what I used to get the components in at the stationary shop), and often in bulk as I have, say, a pack of 10 resistors. Before I bought a set of 100 drawers, I used to store all the components in two larger boxes and whatever I needed, I browsed and searched for a long time.

    From the 100 piece set I have assembled four 'dressers' of 25 pieces each. In one I have RLC elements which occupy almost all of them (I still have 3 or 4 empty ones), in the second I have all the others (occupied about 2/3 of the drawers), the third and fourth "dresser" are completely empty. In my opinion it is useful to divide the RLC elements by orders of magnitude, i.e. in the first one from 0.00 to 9.99 ohms, in the second one from 10.0 to 99.9 ohms, in the third one from 100 to 999 ohms and so on, similarly capacitors and chokes.

    If there are components that don't fit in the ones I have, they will happily occupy the next empty drawer, because that's what I have 100 drawers for, to use them, not to stuff everything in 10. And if I ever get close to 100 there, I'll buy another set of 100 drawers, but a lot of water will flow in the river before that happens.

    In the same way that you can buy more binders and produce another organiser as and when you need it.

    As for transparency, I would suggest buying plexiglass from a building materials shop or a well-known sales portal, cutting it into small pieces and fitting the slides to the plexiglass. I know from myself that for some categories of elements it is hard to come up with a name, in the case of a transparent closure the labels of some categories will not be needed because you can see what is there.
  • #7 19195460
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Interesting idea, although I don't know if pulling out such binders is handy.
    etet wrote:
    . The walls are 8mm, so with a standard 0.4 nozzle there are 2 outlines.

    I think you meant 0.8mm.

    String bags and matchboxes were mentioned in the topic, so still worth mentioning:
    Clip-on organiser system Clip-on organiser system Clip-on organiser system
    such a ready-made binder (full or empty) can be purchased
    In my opinion, this is definitely the best solution for SMD components of which we have small quantities, while for larger parts you can play with 3D printing, I myself have some printed drawers, a lot of bought drawers (Patrol), and also printed drum containers for long SMD strips (e.g. 100nF or there 10uF 0805 or 0603 which go like water).
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  • #8 19197317
    szymon122
    Level 38  
    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    such a ready-made binder (full or empty) can be bought

    Such folios with compartments can be bought ready-made somewhere?
  • #10 19197350
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    ArturAVS wrote:
    szymon122 wrote:
    Such wrappers with dividers can be bought ready-made somewhere?

    A search engine will tell you the truth;

    "Negative binder" is not exactly what I have. I'd rather look for yes Components Sample Book / Pages Organizer For SMD SMT Resistor Capacitor Inductor :
    Clip-on organiser system
    Clip-on organiser system
    here is an empty one (with 20 cards) for $10
    Clip-on organiser system
    The transparencies themselves (5 cards like this) is for $2.
    Clip-on organiser system
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  • #11 19197356
    szymon122
    Level 38  
    ArturAVS wrote:
    The search engine will tell you the truth;

    First you need to know how to call something :D
    But thank you for your help! You may be able to buy filled ones, but it's probably cheaper to buy strips of 100 each somewhere and cut them to the width of those sheets.
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  • #12 19201252
    yogi009
    Level 43  
    ArturAVS wrote:
    It's a nice idea, but with a really large range (I have over 10,000 items myself) it may not be very cost-effective.


    That was my first thought. Nice, but not enough of those compartments :-) In the age of SMD components, you have to look for smaller, better packed boxes. A nice degree of "packing" of elements in tape (resistors or SMD capacitors) is offered by strips clipped into A4 boxes (and these clipped into a binder, for example).
  • #13 19201525
    ArturAVS
    Moderator
    szymon122 wrote:
    First you have to know how to name something

    I couldn't remember the exact name of just :D
  • #14 19201682
    yogi009
    Level 43  
    After all, everything is known :-)
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