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Fully Functioning Internet Browser for Windows XP: Is it Possible? Explore Options!

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  • #1 19189957
    wroteczek
    Level 12  
    a fully working internet browser on windows xp, is that?
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  • #2 19189965
    elktrod
    Level 38  
    Irfan View is even in Polish ... and very fast ... and works from Windows 3.11 to Windows 10 ...
    And when it comes to files, I recommend Total Commander, also for all Windows and it is also in Polish ...
    And you haven't written what you want to view at all? After all, system explorers are fully operational?
  • #3 19189998
    wroteczek
    Level 12  
    I meant the web browser :D

    :D As for the photos, Faststone is much cooler
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  • #4 19190025
    elktrod
    Level 38  
    I must admit that I have never wanted to be cool, but I will test FastStone when it comes to scrolling speed, and when it comes to web browsers, I recommend FireFox, Opera, Chrome, etc., which you find cooler, use ...
    After a few minutes: FastStone seems fast, it's enough for me, the most important thing is that it is also in a portable version, because I collect portable tools for my own rescue CD, I think to create one someday, although I'm already beginning to doubt if it makes sense, since it's already at home each child must have their own computer for remote learning. It used to make sense when there was one computer in the house and it was so expensive that you couldn't afford the other one .....
  • #5 19191105
    anchilos
    Level 38  
    In my experience.
    At the moment, only FF Mozilla to XP - somehow.

    Others - lack of certificates and other obstacles to accessing the pages.
    I tested different.

    Regards.
  • #6 19205823
    wroteczek
    Level 12  
    Firefox and mozilla are crashing too, flash doesn't always work .... But they are more functional than SRWare Iron Version 49.0.2600.0

    Added after 11 [minutes]:

    https://www.srware.net/iron/

    Added after 5 [hours] 13 [minutes]:

    An interesting thing is that linuxes somehow have no problems with the functioning :D in every respect
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  • #7 19676097
    Banasiewicz02
    Level 31  
    I will join the topic, what do you recommend on XPka to sit on a retro computer in the evening and read the electrodes and sometimes watch something on youtube. I do not need to make transfers, walk on unknown sides.
  • #8 19705912
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #9 19705997
    jprzedworski
    Network and Internet specialist
    Banasiewicz02 wrote:
    I don't need to make transfers
    This is not only about transfers. Now most sites are in SSL so certificates matter.
  • #10 20724807
    Banasiewicz02
    Level 31  
    I bump up the topic, do you have any idea how to browse the internet on windows XP reasonably ? All browsers that I try to put on a computer with XPek throws an error. All of them, except for firefox get fired up at the very beginning of the installation, only firefox deigns to inform that it will not install because it expects windows with xp with sp2, strange that, on the computer is supposedly sp3.
  • #11 20725330
    bryko
    Level 22  
    Try to find the full installation file for Firefox ESR 52.1.1 and disable auto-update after installation. I installed it for my cameras and even though it's old it somehow works. On the web it has the biggest trouble with displaying ads, but that's not a problem, in fact it's an advantage ;) .
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  • #14 20726350
    Banasiewicz02
    Level 31  
    firefox 52.1.1 in turn gives me an error that it requires a processor with SSE2.The computer has an athlon xp 1300Mhz.
  • #15 20726495
    markooff
    E-Commerce-Betreuer
    bryko wrote:
    Try to find the full installation file for Firefox ESR 52.1.1 and disable auto-update after installation. I've installed it for my cameras and even though it's old it somehow works. On the web, the biggest problem is with the display of ads, but that's not a problem, in fact it's an advantage

    No fact that still - such solutions "somehow work". - agree, for certain applications even may still suffice (asam have/maintain them on pru machines , mainly for testing purposes) , but if someone wants to reasonably 'view the Internet in a newer edition/shade' - it will suffer a bit , however....

    Customer who would necessarily want to maintain older (heavily) hardware - and would not be tied to the system (or, for example, bound to some specific software that "must work") - I would, however, recommend switching to Linux. Here, it is much easier to maintain older versions of systems, even well after their EOL /EOS date.
    Example : I myself maintain dozens of hosts (mostly on virtuals) with Centos versions 6, 7 and 8 , in addition to those that I have long since migrated to RL 8/9 ....

    Greetings
  • #16 20726609
    Banasiewicz02
    Level 31  
    markooff wrote:
    bryko wrote:
    Try to find the full installation file for Firefox ESR 52.1.1 and disable auto-update after installation. I've installed it for cameras and even though it's old it somehow works. On the web, the biggest problem is with the display of ads, but that's not a problem, it's an advantage

    No fact that still - such solutions "somehow work". - agree, for certain applications even may still suffice (asam have/maintain them on pru machines , mainly for testing purposes) , but if someone wants to reasonably 'view the Internet in a newer edition/shade' - it will suffer a bit , however....

    Customer who would necessarily want to maintain older (heavily) hardware - and would not be tied to the system (or, for example, bound to some specific software that "must work") - I would, however, recommend switching to Linux. Here, it is much easier to maintain older versions of systems, even well after their EOL /EOS date.
    Example : I myself maintain dozens of hosts (mostly on virtuals) with Centos versions 6, 7 and 8 , in addition to those that I have long since migrated to RL 8/9 ....

    Greetings


    I don't care about full internet performance. I have a computer with windows 98 and windows XP ( on two separate drives) Windows 98 I use for very old games like quake 2, dune 2000 and on XP I have newer games like Indiana Jones, Unreal Tournament, Serious Sam. I have installed Gadu Gadu 6.0, Winamp 2.91, a screensaver with fish, I would still like to fire up chat on interia, possibly some news on onet and forums with old games. I don't need anything else.
  • #17 20726736
    markooff
    E-Commerce-Betreuer
    Banasiewicz02 wrote:
    I do not care about full internet performance. I have a computer with windows 98 and windows XP ( on two separate drives) Windows 98 I use for very old games like quake 2, dune 2000 and on XP I have newer games like Indiana Jones, Unreal Tournament, Serious Sam. I have installed Gadu Gadu 6.0, Winamp 2.91, screensaver with fish, I would still like to fire up chat on interia, possibly some news on onet and forums with old games. I don't need anything else.

    I understand, such a "gentle charm" of older games :)
    So yes, as for games and other (non-network) programs - in principle, nothing should happen here or anything should change because updates for these systems have already ended - so nothing will change here (for the worse too) .
    However, as for network programs - such as gadu gadu (here I don't know exactly what its updates look like - and if there are still (!) because I haven't used it for a long time, I wasn't even sure if it still works .... ) or as chat on interia (former Chatteria, I think) - here there will be a bigger problem - because Chatteria like many sites / services of a dynamic nature uses massively javascript / jquery (which can be seen even at first glance) and communicates with a number of API and smaller web applications - and thus will need ever newer versions of browsers that will support ever newer versions of javascript and others
    And here we have a problem . A problem that will grow more and more - because it all goes forward, while browsers that can work properly on such Windows XP stood on specific versions (for FF it was probably version 52.... )

    This is why - the most sensible solution is to switch with all the newer and networked things (as in this case with chat on the interii) on a fairly up-to-date hardware and operating system, however (even if it were Windows 7 for a little more months are released for it security updates , and preferably already Windows 10 ), and leave everything that does not require a network on older computers with older systems. And keep an eye on their security - even without a network, sometimes by transferring data on a flash drive something can slip through...

    Another solution would be to put yourself a strong (reasonably) computer on Win 10 / Win 11 - and immediately run on it virtualization (here there is a wide range of available solutions such as VMware, VirtualBox , or others) -> on which you would need to create separate virtual machines - one for Windows 98 and the other for Windows XP - of course, both without access to the network, only need to have some shared folders with the host computer no and/or USB support to upload and install on them all the older games . Then both the level of security of these systems (win 98 and win XP) will increase - because it will be possible, for example, to use VM snapshots and even if something bad happened where there will no longer be an adequate antivirus for the system - just do a revert to snapshot (before the infection), and you will be able to fully use the older programs / games - and the basis of the system (win 10/11 ) will be freshly updated and on it will be able to work with network programs such as chat on the internet.

    Obsolutely - I would choose version no. 2 - of course it requires a little investment at the start :) - but it's once in a few years .

    Greetings



    UPD: yes BTW - this winamp 2.92 also runs smoothly for me under newer Windows - because it comes from the times when when once something was written it was really done with thought and care for the operation, regardless of external software :) Echo , good those times were ....


    Screenshot of Winamp version 2.92 with an open window showing version history. .
  • #18 20727523
    Banasiewicz02
    Level 31  
    I have a newer computer, a Lenovo Yoga with windows 8 and here I run everything. The second computer is almost "archaic" for today's times because it has a single-core Athlon XP clocked at 1300Mhz, 1Gb of ram in two dice of 512 (128mb of which is still consumed by the built-in graphics card geforce 2 mx-440) and a 160GB "needle" Ata 133 hard drive. The computer has a cd-rw and dvd-rw drive and even a floppy drive, which also works. In such a configuration it meets all my requirements apropo games and programs. With the Internet in total I also managed, I uploaded firefox 49 without SSE2, I did not even install the browser, just uploaded a folder, and so far the Internet as I expected works.
  • #19 20727543
    markooff
    E-Commerce-Betreuer

    WOW! Beautiful this retro configuration :)
    I still remember those days quite well - eh...

    Well, may your net work as well and as long as possible!

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a fully functioning internet browser on Windows XP. Users share their experiences with various browsers, noting that Firefox is one of the few options that can still operate on XP, albeit with limitations. Some recommend using Firefox ESR 52.1.1 or 52.9.0, while others mention issues with compatibility and performance, particularly with SSL certificates and modern web standards. Alternatives like SRWare Iron and Mypal are also suggested, though they come with their own set of challenges, such as page display errors. The conversation highlights the difficulties of maintaining internet functionality on outdated hardware and software, with some users advocating for a switch to Linux for better support of older systems.
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