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Which PLAY Internet router (with LTE 800 MHz band aggregation?)

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  • #31 19807764
    eto07eto
    Level 7  
    Test done at the highest point at home. Which PLAY Internet router (with LTE 800 MHz band aggregation?)

    And here are screenshots when I go up the hill from myself
    Which PLAY Internet router (with LTE 800 MHz band aggregation?) Which PLAY Internet router (with LTE 800 MHz band aggregation?)
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  • #32 19807791
    matek451
    Level 43  
    This time aggregation of LTE1800 plus additional bands, weak signal on LTE1800, similar to LTE2100 and sufficient on LTE800, but it does not matter. After the tests, the choice of the router is B535, on it you will force the aggregation of LTE2100 + 1800 bands. Outdoor antenna, directional at 1800-2100MHz, e.g. https://www.cybertech.com.pl/p188,antena-dualna-lte-4g-15dbi-mimo-do-huawei-b535.html, cable maximum 10 ma and preferably on dimension.
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  • #35 19807861
    eto07eto
    Level 7  
    The price is PLN 300. New, not used as of November 2021.
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  • #37 19808329
    eto07eto
    Level 7  
    I have already bought another for PLN 220 from the area. Used for 2 months. And how to set this aggregation in it after connecting the antenna?
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  • #39 19818397
    eto07eto
    Level 7  
    Today I got an antenna and I have a strange problem. After connecting both sockets to the antenna, the signal drops to 3G. If I unplug one wire, then I get a LTE 1800 .. Replacing the wires does not help, maybe the antenna may be damaged?
    I put screenshots
    Which PLAY Internet router (with LTE 800 MHz band aggregation?) Which PLAY Internet router (with LTE 800 MHz band aggregation?)

    A little update. I changed the antenna selection to internal in the huactrl application and everything started to work, but I don't know if everything is ok. Which PLAY Internet router (with LTE 800 MHz band aggregation?)
  • #40 19946228
    rafalb76
    Level 11  
    Hello. Could you please tell me why several times in this thread it is stated that this or that router is not suitable for e.g. Playa? After all, routers do not have simlocks now and you insert a SIM card and use it. If I currently have a cat.4 LTE router and I want to change it to B535 from cat.6, maybe nothing will improve? I have no aggregation, I will have 2 bands with aggregation and I thought it would always do something. And here I read the thread and, for example, eeee, this router is not suitable for Play. What's this about? Of course, in short.
  • #41 19946285
    m.jastrzebski
    Network and Internet specialist
    rafalb76 wrote:
    Hello. Could you please tell me why several times in this thread it is stated that this or that router is not suitable for e.g. Playa? After all, routers do not have simlocks now and you insert a SIM card and use it. If I currently have a cat.4 LTE router and I want to change it to B535 from cat.6, maybe nothing will improve? I have no aggregation, I will have 2 bands with aggregation and I thought it would always do something. And here I read the thread and, for example, eeee, this router is not suitable for Play. What's this about? Of course, in short.

    In PL, operators have up to 4 bands, it is possible to aggregate just maximally 4. Of course, the operator's transmitter can support 1,2,3 or 4 bands. I think you have met with some simplification of people who must always have the best router in a given place. And as there are 4 lanes available on BTSe, the B353 will aggregate only 2, some people tend to use the term that it is not suitable, because it will not squeeze everything out of the net.
    Another thing. I don't know how exactly B535 is, but how the router aggregates 2 bands, but doesn't have to aggregate every pair of bands! For example, if it aggregates only 800 + 1800, 1800 + 2100, 1800 + 2600, 2100 + 2600, but does not aggregate 800-2600, and you will get BTS from 800 and 2600, the change to such a router will not help.
    Or if the transmitter has only 1 band, then changing even to aggregating 4 bands will not change NOTHING. Of course, with a simple app you can check what BTS broadcasts and you will know.
    Summing up, check what the router can do, what the transmitter offers and buy consciously. You don't always have to buy the best one if you don't like CI speed tests and the service is sufficient on weaker but cheaper equipment.
  • #42 19946289
    matek451
    Level 43  
    You have 4 LTE category, so buying B535-232 from category 6 will probably improve your speeds, but it all depends on which Play base station you use, what LTE bands are on it, what signal parameters you have on them and what speed tests look like on them. For Play stations with LTE2100 + 1800 + 800, a router with aggregation of 2 LTE QAM64 bands is usually sufficient to use LTE2100 + 1800 aggregation, the LTE800 band in play operating at 5MHz is by definition slow and clogged, it does not contribute much to aggregation with LTE capacitive bands . A budget solution, if you want to get high speeds and have a Play station with aggregation of 4 LTE bands in the range and want to get the most out of it, you use advanced, more expensive equipment with aggregation of 3/4 LTE bands in QAM256.
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  • #43 19947339
    rafalb76
    Level 11  
    Thank you for the answers, a lot has lightened up. I am not a squeeze fan as much as I can, I just wish that I, for example, Netflix or YouTube would not stutter. I currently have transfers of about 2-10 download and 0.5-2 uploud - the lower values are peak hours, i.e. weekends in the evening, and the higher ones are normally during the day. The router stands anywhere, moving it gives little, shows a good range. The transmitter is Play ID: LGI3301 Borowa Góra - gm. Serock, ul. Lipowa - plot no. 94/4 (Cellnex tower - formerly owned) - this is info from Btssearch. I have 600m in a straight line to it, and I have over 2km to any other. I am not interested in external antennas and equipment for more than PLN 200, because I am waiting for the optical fiber, apparently something is already happening. I thought, first of all, about the aggregation of 2 bands, and secondly about the possibility of rigidly selecting which bands should be, and I think the B535 has such an option. I will measure every single strand available and rigidly set the two best ones. I will buy this router, of course, used and with the small antennas screwed on the back. The assumption is that it is noticeably better (e.g. no jamming in Netflix), to fit around PLN 200 and not to play with an external antenna, cables, etc.
  • #44 19947353
    m.jastrzebski
    Network and Internet specialist
    rafalb76 wrote:
    Thank you for the answers, a lot has lightened up. I am not a squeeze fan as much as I can, I just wish I wouldn't get stuck on, for example, Netflix or YouTube. I currently have transfers of about 2-10 download and 0.5-2 uploud - the lower values are peak hours, i.e. weekends in the evening, and the higher ones are normally during the day. The router stands anywhere, moving it gives little, shows a good range. The transmitter is Play ID: LGI3301 Borowa Góra - gm. Serock, ul. Lipowa - plot no. 94/4 (Cellnex tower - formerly owned) - this is info from Btssearch. I have 600m in a straight line to it, and I have over 2km to any other. I am not interested in external antennas and equipment for more than PLN 200, because I am waiting for the optical fiber, apparently something is already happening. I thought, first of all, about the aggregation of 2 bands, and secondly about the possibility of rigidly selecting which bands should be, and I think the B535 has such an option. I will measure every single strand available and rigidly set the two best ones. I will buy this router, of course, used and with the small antennas screwed on the back. The assumption is that it is noticeably better (e.g. no jamming in Netflix), to fit around PLN 200 and not to play with an external antenna, cables, etc.

    Your 200PLN. Buy. Maybe it gets better, maybe not. Nobody will tell you if you are blind. If you did the tests with the phone inside and outside, you would have an idea about the BTS load, signal level, attenuation on your walls and with high probability, estimating whether buying a CAT6 router will change something. This BTSa Playa has 4 bands.
  • #45 19947370
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Of course, only if he had these external antennas, because he looks great with them and the antennas will provide you with 4K in Netflix, they give as much as their gain is the same as the internal antennas in the B535. You have read stupid things and you follow them without taking into account the advice of experts. It starts with testing individual LTE bands at home, Play has LTE2600 / 2100/1800/800 on BTS, there are routers with LTE 4 KAT. which have the option of forcing a specific LTE band, checks the signal parameters on them and performs speed tests. Based on this, further steps. The given speeds indicate some LTE capacitive band operating on very poor signal parameters.
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  • #46 19955142
    rafalb76
    Level 11  
    I am just for a moment to describe how the case from a week ago ended. Well, the transmitter is the one described by me, I was right, the available bands are 800, 1800, 2100, 2600. All of them individually gave a similar result - DL ranging between 2-5 Mbit / s in peak hours. Of course, the best range at 800, the worst at 2600, but satisfactory. It is clear that the problem here is not the range, but the transmitter load - this is an area where the number of inhabitants has doubled or even tripled over the last 10 years, and the number of transmitters is the same. In addition, there is no possibility of connecting to any cable, so everyone uses LTE. Exposing the antennas to the outside would provide some stabilization, but there is no question of decent transfers. Upload higher than the download is probably the standard on the transmitter loaded by too many users. I left 1800, 2100 and 2600 for aggregation - let the router choose 2 out of these three bands by itself. Ultimately, aggregation resulted in an increase from these 2-5 Mbit / s to some 3-8 Mbit / s. I'm talking about rush hour, which is the evenings 17-21. It's a lot better during the day, but so what if I'm not there then. So I just have to wait for the light in the cable. May the noble Orange start with the investment as soon as possible, as I wish for myself and for all of you.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around selecting an appropriate router or modem for LTE band aggregation with the PLAY Internet service. The user currently employs a Huawei E3372 modem and seeks advice on achieving better speeds, particularly for work-related tasks requiring stable connections. Various responses suggest that the Huawei B525s-23a may not be suitable due to weak signal parameters, and alternatives like the Huawei B818 and B535 are recommended for their better aggregation capabilities. Users emphasize the importance of measuring signal strength and considering external antennas to enhance performance. Recommendations for antennas include Cybertech and ATK models, with discussions on the necessity of directional antennas for optimal signal reception. The conversation highlights the significance of understanding local BTS configurations and the limitations of certain LTE bands, particularly LTE800, in achieving satisfactory speeds.
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