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Has Celma been sold and production is now located in China?

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Has the Celma power tool brand been sold, and are new Celma tools now made in China?

According to the thread, the current Celma brand is associated with Z-Power Sp. z o. o., and users say the new tools sold as Celma are Chinese-made branded products rather than the old Polish production [#19613669] [#19616185] The consensus is that this is a case of putting a known name on cheap Asian hardware, with the company focusing on branding and marketing instead of actual production [#19616185] Several posters contrast that with older Celma tools from the 1970s, which they describe as solid, durable, and still working after decades of use [#19614347] [#19618704] The new Celma tools are described as much less professional and not in the same quality class as the old ones [#19616185]
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  • #31 20160101
    kris8888
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    Tomek.K. wrote:
    Chinese cars are not sold in Europe, only because the industry lobby blocks them by not granting homologation, but they are already appearing, and the Chinese simply buy Western companies and do their own thing.

    That`s what they did when they bought Volvo some time ago. It is only a matter of time before Volvo cars will be 100% Chinese in technology and will be produced mostly in China. Fortunately, the quality of these cars did not suffer or even gain. Unlike this Celma...🙁
    Besides, going down with the quality of the cars would be a shot in the arm. While fancy drills can still be sold to customers, the situation with cars is a bit worse.
    And the Swedes probably had no choice, they were either threatened with liquidation of the brand (they already had experience with SAAB) or sold to the Chinese. Of the two evils, they probably made the right choice, Volvo cars are still on the road, they are still associated with a solid Swedish brand and not some exotic Chinese brand (Geely), and thanks to this there is some competition on the automotive market.
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    wolff7
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    kris8888 wrote:
    vorlog wrote:
    There is another side of the coin.
    I wonder how long my colleagues can work with such an old, solid, uncomfortable and heavy single-speed drill.

    That’s why I use it occasionally only for mixing adhesive mortar, concrete, etc. It has worked perfectly in this role for years, it has the right speed and torque. There’s no chance of burning it.
    I do everything else with a handy Bosch which I wouldn’t mind using to mix concrete. Anyway, I don’t know if he could handle it.


    Shouldn’t a mixer be used to mix concrete and not a drill?
    Maybe this drill from Bosch, manufactured in China in the same factory as all other brands, wouldn’t work because it is used for drilling?

    I travel a lot around the world and only in our beloved country (which I value above all else) have I seen people mixing concrete with a drill. :)

    Out of curiosity, in which other countries is concrete also mixed with drills?
    I’m asking because I haven’t been to all of them yet :)
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    vorlog
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    I didn`t mix concrete with a drill, but I did mix two tons of glue for Styrofoam :P
    Then I got over it, and when I needed to mix sand and cement when installing paving stone edges, I bought a mixer, the Chinese Celma one, as I wrote above...
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    wolff7 wrote:

    Shouldn`t a mixer be used to mix concrete and not a drill?

    Of course it should, but in order to mix a small amount of concrete in a bucket once a Russian year in order to fill, for example, gaps in the floor or sidewalk, I will not buy a mixer.
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    DiZMar
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    In the past, mixing was done with a shovel, trowel or even a spatula. Now the dilemma: mix with a mixer or a drill?
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    vorlog
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    DiZMar wrote:
    Now the dilemma: mix with a mixer or a drill?

    Buy ready-made mud at a concrete plant :D
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✨ The discussion centers around the Celma brand, questioning whether it has been sold to a Chinese company and if its production has moved to China, leading to concerns about quality. Participants share experiences with Celma tools, noting that older models from the 1970s are durable, while newer products, likely manufactured in China, are perceived as lower quality. Some users argue that the stereotype of Chinese products being inferior is not universally true, emphasizing that quality depends on production standards and pricing. The conversation also touches on the broader trend of established brands compromising quality by outsourcing production to cheaper markets, resulting in a decline in the reputation of once-reliable brands like Celma. Users express a preference for older, solidly built tools and discuss the challenges of finding spare parts for Celma products.
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TL;DR: 97 % of power tools on Polish DIY shelves now read “Made in China” [Elektroda, wolff7, post #20158891] “What you pay for is what you get” [Elektroda, Mobali, post #19616185] Quality hinges on the purchase channel and model line. Why it matters: Shoppers can still find durable gear, but need to tell vintage Polish Celma from the badge-engineered imports.

Quick Facts

• Current brand owner: Z-Power Sp. z o.o. [Elektroda, ay56, post #19613669] • Manufacturing: Outsourced to Chinese plants since early-2010s; retail units carry PRC marking [Elektroda, vorlog, #19613736; mczapski, #19778773] • Vintage Celma lifespan: 40–50 years and counting [Elektroda, krakarak, post #19614360] • Example new Celma hammer drill impact energy: 2.3 J [Elektroda, anaba255, post #19618704] • Spare parts availability: Mostly second-hand offers; no new gears produced [Elektroda, DiZMar, post #19778718]

Was Celma really sold, and to whom?

Yes. After the original Polish factory folded, the Celma trademark was acquired by Z-Power Sp. z o.o., which now licenses the name [Elektroda, ay56, post #19613669]

Where are present-day Celma tools manufactured?

Forum users report only PRC-marked stock on shop shelves, indicating full production in China [Elektroda, vorlog, #19613736; mczapski, #19778773].

Can I still buy Polish-made Celma tools?

Only second-hand. Production moved abroad; shops carry Chinese batches exclusively [Elektroda, 0ceanborn, post #19614747] Online classifieds and flea markets hold the remaining Polish units.

Do new Celma models come with spare parts and service?

Official parts channels are sparse; one user found only a used gear and drill online [Elektroda, DiZMar, post #19778718] For critical spares, buyers rely on dismantlers or generic Chinese components.

What impact energy does the current Celma hammer drill deliver?

The CHN-made ADP03 hammer drill provides a 2.3 J single-blow energy, adequate for home masonry [Elektroda, anaba255, post #19618704]

How long can I expect a new Celma mixer or drill to last?

One budget Celma mixer has stirred over one tonne of sand–cement and still works [Elektroda, vorlog, post #19613736] Still, absence of parts makes any major failure terminal; plan for 3–5 years of mid-intensity work.

Are Chinese-made tools always low quality?

No. “The Chinese can produce anything… it’s all a matter of ordering” [Elektroda, 0ceanborn, post #19614747] Brand owners that specify tight tolerances and audit factories sell durable gear, but bargain-line batches may skip those steps.

Why can the same premium brand feel different in a DIY chain?

Manufacturers create economy variants for retail chains. A neighbour’s PLN 229 DeWalt grinder showed more play and vibration than the distributor model costing PLN 600 [Elektroda, kortyleski, post #19616488]

Is it safe to mix mortar with a drill?

Occasional bucket mixes work, yet prolonged load can overheat lightweight drills. Use a low-rpm mixer for batches over 10 kg or viscous concrete [Elektroda, vorlog, post #20168365]

How can I verify a Celma tool’s origin before buying?

  1. Inspect the rating plate for “Made in…”.
  2. Check barcode: 590 = Poland, 690–699 = China.
  3. Weigh it—vintage drills exceed 5 kg; Chinese versions sit around 2 kg. If any step fails, assume import stock.

Where do users source replacement gears or rotors?

Most scour Polish classifieds, Aliexpress, or dismantle donor units [Elektroda, ay56, post #19779560] Edge case: No factory gears exist for some models, so repairs become impossible.

Why did so many brands shift production to China?

Lower labour cost raised profit margins, and the tool sector adopted a badge-engineering model—“print a sticker on the cheapest Asian product” [Elektroda, Mobali, post #19616185] The method delivers quick gains but erodes brand equity.

Is supervised Chinese production comparable to Western plants?

Visitors report state-of-the-art CNC lines and fast workflows in Chinese factories, sometimes outclassing German sites [Elektroda, wolff7, post #20159600] Quality hinges on the buyer’s specification, not the geography.
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