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[Solved] S34U18 2-Way Counter PV: Troubleshooting Yellow NET LED & Data Communication Issues

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  • #31 19665153
    berserker1
    Level 9  
    I wrote an email to Tauron regarding the lack of meter range (no data and no information in the elicznik) and even an automatic response came with the application number, but I doubt that it will do anything. Who will be bothered - unless something is blocked on the meter, that it does not transmit data to the meter.
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  • #32 19674511
    migod
    Level 21  
    Returning to the original question - is it possible to get information about the energy consumed and sent from this meter and HOW? P1 serial port blanked and sealed. Optical output (apparently) blocked ?? The LED pulse output is kwh (constant 1000 imp / kWh) and kvarh (constant 1000 imp / kvarh).

    The quick comparison of logs from iNode and production data from the inverter shows that:
    a) kWh pulse output gives the "sum" of energy taken from the grid and sent to the grid - that is, in fact, the flow through the meter, regardless of the direction
    b) the kwh LED output does not take into account the auto consumption from the inverter (it is logical) - inferred from the discrepancy in the production curve from the inverter versus the iNode logs when switching on larger loads such as washing / dishwasher

    Possibly - does Tauron provide any API that can be read from outside the application?
  • #33 19679223
    minimaxi
    Level 15  
    And for about a week I have had an eCounter and data. It lasted about 1.5 months, despite the cyclical bombardment of e-mails and phone calls - I already lacked patience :)

    When analyzing the situation, I have 2 observations:
    1. I have no phase-to-phase balancing. In many hours of high donation, however, I have a salary.
    Apparently it is possible to check vector counting from day one
    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3708224-1740.html#19662234

    2. flash - so is there a simple device and you can count (non-invasively in the counter) these pulses and download / send and, if necessary, export to MS Excel? And above all, does it make sense when you can download a csv file with download / return data from eCount? I don't think we will achieve anything more, unless step 5 minutes etc.
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  • #34 19679567
    migod
    Level 21  
    It is possible to count kWh LED flashes and transmit via BLE at intervals of several seconds. The recipient can be a smartphone application, a script on a raspberry or their dedicated router connected via ethernet to the local network. At home, I load it into openhab2.
    Disadvantage - no information whether I am currently selling or buying energy. However, it can be used to detect power failure on 3 phases simultaneously (no consumption).
    Periodic csv export is ok for most analyzes, but ..
    I am currently experimenting with a 3f wifi sub-meter from a Polish producer, which is said to be (?) Bi-directional. Then I have billing independent of the inverter cloud (I can cut it off from the Internet) or the energy network operator, I can dynamically turn on larger loads outside the second zone (e.g. a washing machine or a boiler can be turned on on a clear day when or), correlate it with the weather, have my own analytics and control etc.

    It would be best, however, if the ZE meter itself would enable such integration .. and hence my questions .. some of you checked the IR port? Maybe there is an Installer among us who knows the topic?
  • #35 19760447
    tyskirulez
    Level 11  
    Is the eLicznik service free?
  • #37 19762114
    =Grzegorz=
    Level 25  
    berserker1 wrote:
    I wrote an email to Tauron regarding the lack of meter range (no data and no information in the elicznik) and even an automatic response came with the application number, but I doubt that it will do anything. Who will be bothered - unless something is blocked on the meter, that it does not transmit data to the meter.


    Enter the number of the meter on PW, I'll check it

    No remote, one day a fitter will come, clear the transmission, replace the sim with another operator or install an additional antenna, patience, people at ZE have been plowing for many months to cope with the crowd of MICRO, I have been working on vacation this year and I am still working

    When I read about the helpline bombing, ...


    in the appendix description of the S34U18 display, compressed XPS format S34U18_wys...ietlacz.7z Download (187.02 kB)
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  • #38 19795459
    migod
    Level 21  
    migod wrote:
    Returning to the original question - is it possible to get information about the energy consumed and sent from this meter and HOW? P1 serial port blanked and sealed. Optical output (apparently) blocked ?? The LED pulse output is kwh (constant 1000 imp / kWh) and kvarh (constant 1000 imp / kvarh).


    If someone else was looking for a solution - the following did NOT work:
    * inode and counting LED flashes on the meter (counts production and consumption as one and the given result is consistent with the sum of consumption / consumption from the ZE meter), useful for remote monitoring whether there is power in the building
    * Zamel supla wifi meter connected between the ZE meter and the switchgear / inverter - according to the app, the supplement counts consumption / production, but gives a large discrepancy compared to the ZE meter, e.g. for 12/2021 consumption / production 578kWh / 2.4kWh, and aw / g meter ZE: 439kWh / 30kWh; in both cases, auto-consumption is not measured by meters

    Having access to eLicznik it is possible to read the data via the "API" https://blog.jokielowie.com/2019/05/integracj...ktrownia-fotowoltaiczna-z-wlasnymi-finansami/
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  • #39 19814958
    wojciechmalkiewicz9
    Level 2  
    Hello, I have a question from November 19, I have a 9.9 kWp bifacial installation and a Huawei hybrid inverter and the S34u18 meter on the application I have a yield of 480 kWp and 248 kWp on the meter, so who is cheating here?
  • #40 19814990
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    wojciechmalkiewicz9 wrote:
    I have 480kWp on the application and 248kWp on the meter

    You have not yet entered the amount of energy consumed from the grid.
    Nobody is cheating. Of these 480 yields, you have 232 used up on an ongoing basis and the 248 (-20%) are used for the input. The production is always greater than the donation, because it is reduced by the current consumption. If you were not using anything the production would be ? total. Production in this way is reduced by consumption.
  • #41 19814989
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    wojciechmalkiewicz9 wrote:
    I have 480kWp on the application and 248kWp on the meter

    You have not yet entered the amount of energy consumed from the grid.
    Nobody is cheating. Of these 480 yields, you have 232 used up on an ongoing basis and the 248 (-20%) are used for the input. The production is always greater than the donation, because it is reduced by the current consumption. If you were not using anything the production would be ? total. Production in this way is reduced by consumption.
  • #42 19815050
    wojciechmalkiewicz9
    Level 2  
    downloaded from the 1060 network
  • #43 19815069
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    wojciechmalkiewicz9 wrote:
    downloaded from the 1060 network

    Then you have donated 248 x 0.8 = 198.4 to use on your downloads. 1060-198.4 = for 861.6 to be surcharged. You have used a total of 1060 (downloaded) +232 (currently used before putting into the network) = 1292 in this period.
    Those to be paid for 861.6 for the invoice at the end of 2021 would be if the readings were on 31.12.2021 hours 23.59. If it's today, it will be a bit less, but will go to the next invoice.
  • #44 19831627
    bert73
    Level 10  
    wojciechmalkiewicz9 wrote:
    Hello, I have a question from November 19, I have a 9.9 kWp bifacial installation and a Huawei hybrid inverter and the S34u18 meter on the application I have a yield of 480kWp and 248kWp on the meter, so who is cheating here?


    Sza Cun, when I have a micro-installation, I want ... what I produced (data from the inverter) to be put into the grid (shown on 2.8.0), and all consumption in the apartment, no matter ... because I have photovoltaics. .. Hands drop ...

    Added after 22 [minutes]:

    migod wrote:

    It would be best, however, if the ZE meter itself would enable such integration .. and hence my questions .. some of you checked the IR port? Maybe there is an Installer among us who knows the topic?


    If you were a supplier, you would like someone to "fumble" in the meter without his permission and without knowing what you are doing there ... so that you could possibly win some pirated software ... (knowing life, there would be 100% of such people who would still like to earn on such pirate software by pressing a kit that thanks to it, you will be able to, for example, change parameters, stop charging energy etc. only to be used by the supplier and only he can possibly read or reprogram the parameters, if you have a meter for micro-installation and the meter has no range, make sure that your meter has the range of the given operator, which is physically installed in the meter, you will ask how ... after all, it is the property of the supplier, and only so that if there is no coverage in the place where the meter is installed, then in a situation where the supplier wants to improve the coverage, by e.g. installing an additional antenna (probably it is not possible in all meters installed on the network, I am not 100% sure), then you should show willingness to solve this problem together with the supplier's representative (installer) and not approach the topic, it is not my problem that you do not have communication with the meter modem. Because if the meter has a range, you will have the data in the e-meter, thank you for your attention. :-)
  • #45 19884151
    murzynslawek
    Level 2  
    Hi. Can anyone give me how to check the current voltage on the network, just in this meter.
  • #46 19884220
    =Grzegorz=
    Level 25  
    murzynslawek wrote:
    Hi. Can anyone give How to check the current voltage on the network, just in this meter.


    this one at ron? the default automatic and manual lists do not contain these values
  • #47 19884267
    murzynslawek
    Level 2  
    One hundred percent can display the voltage value from this meter. The question is how to dig into it. The information needed to put too much voltage on the tauron, which results in shutting down the inverter.
  • #48 19884270
    =Grzegorz=
    Level 25  
    murzynslawek wrote:
    One hundred percent can display the voltage value from this meter. The question is how to dig into it. The information needed to put too much voltage on the tauron. Which results in shutting down the inverter.


    of course you can, but it is not loaded into the display list by default
  • #49 19884277
    murzynslawek
    Level 2  
    =Grzegorz= wrote:
    murzynslawek wrote:
    One hundred percent can display the voltage value from this meter. The question is how to dig into it. The information needed to put too much voltage on the Tauron. Which results in shutting down the inverter.


    of course you can, but it is not loaded into the display list by default

    Can any adapter be chosen, however, to extract this data?
  • #50 19884309
    krawietz
    Level 16  
    murzynslawek wrote:
    =Grzegorz= wrote:
    murzynslawek wrote:
    One hundred percent can display the voltage value from this meter. The question is how to dig into it. The information needed to put too much voltage on the tauron. Which results in shutting down the inverter.


    of course you can, but it is not loaded into the display list by default

    Can any adapter be chosen, however to extract this data?


    No, it needs to be turned on in the meter. You can't do anything about it yourself.
    But the meter probably sends this data to Tauron ...

    Tailor
  • #51 19917978
    Tomasz_Kn
    Level 9  
    bert73 wrote:
    wojciechmalkiewicz9 wrote:
    Hello, I have a question from November 19, I have a 9.9 kWp bifacial installation and a Huawei hybrid inverter and the S34u18 meter on the application I have a yield of 480kWp and 248kWp on the meter, so who is cheating here?


    Sza Cun, when I have a micro-installation, I want ... what I produced (data from the inverter) to be put into the grid (shown on 2.8.0), and all consumption in the apartment, no matter ... because I have photovoltaics. .. Hands drop ...

    Added after 22 [minutes]:

    migod wrote:

    It would be best, however, if the ZE meter itself would enable such integration .. and hence my questions .. some of you checked the IR port? Maybe there is an Installer among us who knows the topic?


    If you were a supplier, you would like someone to "fumble" in the meter without his permission and without knowing what you are doing there ... so that you could possibly win some pirated software ... (knowing life, there would be 100% of such people who would still like to earn on such pirate software by pressing a kit that thanks to it, you will be able to, for example, change parameters, stop charging energy etc. only to be used by the supplier and only he can possibly read or reprogram the parameters, if you have a meter for micro-installation and the meter has no range, make sure that your meter has the range of the given operator, which is physically installed in the meter, you will ask how ... after all, it is the property of the supplier, and only so that if there is no coverage in the place where the meter is installed, then in a situation where the supplier wants to improve the coverage, by e.g. installing an additional antenna (probably it is not possible in all meters installed on the network, I am not 100% sure), then you should show willingness to solve this problem together with the supplier's representative (installer) and not approach the topic, it is not my problem that you do not have communication with the meter modem. Because if the meter has a range, you will have the data in the e-meter, thank you for your attention. :-)


    Hello
    There are a few issues of meter reading that need to be clarified here.
    Well, reading the meter, whether by looking at the LCD screen, or by pressing a button and reading subsequent parameters, or using a standard communication interface, is the correct use of the meter.
    It is the use of the basic functionality of the meter.
    Of course, this port can be used to reprogram the meter, which is a CRIMINAL but contrary to what you wrote, most people do not do it.
    The optical port is cool enough that you do not interfere with the meter while using it.
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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting issues with the S34U18 2-way counter PV, specifically focusing on a blinking yellow NET LED indicating potential communication problems via the cellular network. Users report difficulties accessing the eTauron meter and express concerns about poor mobile network coverage affecting data transmission. Suggestions include checking the P1 port for connectivity, using an optical port for data reading, and the possibility of adding an external antenna to improve signal strength. Some users have experienced delays in data availability after registration, while others discuss discrepancies in energy consumption readings. The conversation highlights the importance of proper communication protocols and the need for patience with the Tauron system's configuration.
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