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Selection of LTE Router and External Antenna for Orange Network in Kieleńska Huta, Wrzosowa

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Which LTE router and external antenna should I choose for my home location and Orange network without any tests?

Based on the tests from that location, Play is the best operator there, not Orange, because its nearby base stations offer LTE2600+2100+1800+800 aggregation and delivered the strongest results [#19727777] For the router, the recommended choice is Huawei B818; if you want a cheaper option, B628 also works, but it aggregates only 3 LTE bands, while B818 aggregates 4 and has TS9 connectors for an external antenna [#19728148] For the antenna, use the Cybertech dual LTE 1800–2600 MHz MIMO antenna recommended for the B818/B628 [#19727924][#19729320] If you later build Wi‑Fi around it, put the LTE router in bridge mode and use a real mesh system such as Huawei WS5800; TP-Link Deco E4 was explicitly discouraged [#19729386]
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  • #1 19726873
    malottke
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    Good morning, I do not know which router and external LTE antenna to choose.
    From what I've learned, "the basis is always the location, the operator and his test"

    The location is Kieleńska Huta, Wrzosowa (Pomeranian Voivodeship), Orange, I did not test.
    From what I've seen, Orange is the only relatively close antenna (5-6 km).
    Budget within reason, let's assume up to PLN 1 - 2 thousand.

    Thank you in advance for your help.
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    #2 19726927
    matek451
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    Of course, not only Orange, the more without tests, the NetWorks Leśno station on the Play mast is a misery with naked LTE800 for Orange and T-mobile, the only sensible one is Szemudzka Huta with LTE2600+2100+1800+800 aggregation for these operators, the sector from it is directed in Debnik. In addition, the NW station with LTE2100+1800+800 in Koleczkowo. Play has the mentioned mast in Leśno and LTE2600+2100+1800+800 on it, one of the sectors is aiming at your direction, and the same station in Koleczkowo. Perform tests on the cards of these 3 operators outside on the phone with the application https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.mroczis.netmonster&hl=pl and show screenshots from the Live tab and speedtests.
    You have iOS so the application will not work, use the Field Test service code *3001#12345#* https://www.pokoleniesmart.pl/field-test-w-ios-14-doczekal-sie-zmian-jest-lepiej/ or as you write borrow something from android.
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  • #3 19726951
    malottke
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    OK, thank you.
    I'll come back with an answer when I do some tests.

    Added after 3 [hours] 53 [minutes]:

    I did a test of 3 operators.
    I repeated some tests to make sure it worked out well

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    #4 19727777
    matek451
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    The tests showed what I expected, 3 Play base stations with aggregation of 4 LTE bands do their job, tests as I see at home and in Play from Koleczkowo, coverage on LTE1800/2100/2600 capacitive bands, weak signal and still super speed, although the phone with modem only 6 kat, the station has a lot of potential, it has a 1107 Mb/s radio link to the Wilczlińska 64 fiber node, Orange / T-mobile have poor coverage in the LTE1800+800 aggregation with BTS Koleczkowo or Szemudzka Huta, speeds adequate to the conditions, i.e. they are not overwhelming, but the stations still have LTE2100 residual signal on them and no coverage on LTE2600 from Huta. Do tests, but outside, show screenshots for 3 operators and speedtests, but you can already see that Play has an advantage there.
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  • #5 19727779
    malottke
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    The tests were done outside.
    These are screenshots, already taken at home so as not to freeze. :)
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    #6 19727795
    matek451
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    Well, the more you need to focus on Play because the tests have shown that it is the optimal operator there.
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  • #7 19727808
    malottke
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    If I already know which operator, the most important question is what router and antenna?
  • #8 19727924
    matek451
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    Is it a subscription or pre-paid? The antenna is a simple choice, LTE2600+2100+1800 aggregation stations are the Dual LTE1800-2600MHz antenna from Cybertech.
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  • #9 19727928
    malottke
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    I haven't checked the offer yet, but I will probably take an offer for business with unlimited lte (I hope there is such a thing)
    Subscription
  • #10 19728107
    matek451
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    In Play, it pays to contact a Business Advisor, preferably a proven one, you can have a 1TB offer with Huawei PRO2 or MC801a OR mc7010 for pennies and the subscription if you still have phones in PLAY is the offer http://www.bez-kabli.pl/viewtopic.php ?f=10&t=61657&p=631771#p631771 write a PM to your friend and he will give you the details of this DB, contact https://www.facebook.com/dbplaypoznan/
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  • #11 19728125
    malottke
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    Can I connect an external antenna to all these routers?

    And when it comes to this antenna, I want it to be as strong as possible, or is there no stronger than what you mentioned?
    (I'm not saying this one is weak)
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  • #12 19728148
    matek451
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    No, none of them, but PRO2 and MC801a are the most worth about PLN 900-1000, you can buy them for pennies in Play, so you can sell them and buy B818 / B628 but cheaper, B628 costs about PLN 500, aggregates 3 LTE bands, has connectors TS9 for external antennas, and B818 can be bought for PLN 800, it has connectors, it is in demand, but it is currently missing from PLAY. It aggregates 4 bands and has TS9.
    Unless you succeed with the MC7010, the outdoor 5g/lte access point 5g/LTE modem is integrated with an external MIMO4X4 antenna, powered by POE over an Ethernet cable, and MF18a at home.
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  • #13 19729142
    malottke
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    Okay, I have an operator, I have a router, how about this antenna?
    and one more question, do you recommend something like this:

    TP-LINK Deco E4 or Huawei WiFi Mesh WS5800-20?
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    malottke
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    I thought it wouldn't be a stupid option, is there any other solution?
  • #16 19729386
    matek451
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    But this is an option that requires an additional router in the network and B818/628 settings in bridge, unfortunately, but B818 has problems as a mesh router with these WS5800, i.e. B818 serving as an LTE modem in bridge mode and one WS5800 as a router and 1 or 2 WS5800 as satellites. TP-Links E4 are toys, not real mesh.
    I use 2 mesh solutions myself, for testing purposes I set up a network based on a mesh router with a built-in LTE 18 KAT modem. i.e. aggregating 4 LTE MIMO4X4 bands, QAM256 Netgear LBR20, AC2200 with backhaul on 5GHz, it is a dedicated band for communication with satellites, as satellites with LBR20 work 2 pieces of Netgear RBS20 also with AC2200.
    The second solution is based on the MC7010, i.e. a 5g/LTE access point, set in a bridge and connected to the MESH D-link COVR2200 router which acts as a router, another COVR2200 acting as a satellite works with it.
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    malottke
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    B818 - (bridge) (router) - WS5800 - WS5800 (mesh)
    Will something like this work or not?
    Because I'm already lost.
    Your solution is probably cool, but the price doesn't look colorful anymore.
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    matek451
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    It will work, but the main router in the network will be the first WS5800 and the second satellite, it connects via WiFi to the first one on the 5GHz band dedicated for this purpose, because the WS5800 is AC2200 and MESH on 3 2x5GHz and 2.4GHz bands. B818 only plays the role of an LTE modem in the bridge, not a router.
    Same for me, only instead of B818 I use MC7010, it is an external router, integrated with the antenna, without WiFi and set as a bridge, it provides access to 5G / LTE, and instead of WS5800 I have these two COVR2200 and they work just like your WS5800.
    The second solution is a different league, because the source of the Internet is the Netgear LBR20 router, it is the equivalent of B818, but it already has the MESH function, so it is also the main router in the network, it also has AC2200 and a dedicated 5GHz band for communication via WIFI with additional satellites, I use it for it as satellites, two Netgear LBS20 are connected, they act as additional APs.
    I have a Cybertech antenna connected to the LBR20. The basis for you is an LTE router and an external antenna for it.
    I hope you now understand how it is supposed to work.
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  • #19 19729627
    malottke
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    Yes, now I understand.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Okay, I think I know everything, but thank you very much for your help. I'm going to keep this topic open for a while if I still have a problem.
    Regards
  • #20 19744880
    malottke
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    I guess I had a feeling not to delete the thread.

    I bought everything you recommended.
    I mounted the antenna pointed at the antenna in the forest and achieved a killer 15 mbs

    I don't think it's enough since I managed to achieve 40/50 on a poor phone on earth.
    What am I doing wrong?
    I've been sitting on the roof all day today, scheming.

    The length of the cable from the antenna is 7m, can it have such an impact?
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  • #21 19745469
    matek451
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    Try with BTS Koleczkowo because it was used by the phone, show screenshots from the band management application for single LTE bands and speedtests on them. Then the same with Forest.
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  • #22 19745514
    malottke
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    I'm still wondering, there is a TV antenna on the same mast, does it have any effect?
    Is there a pc app for this? Does it just pick up from wifi then?
  • #24 19747144
    malottke
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    B628 the old man decided on a cheaper one, will he be able to do it too?
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Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around selecting an LTE router and external antenna for optimal performance on the Orange network in Kieleńska Huta, Wrzosowa. The user initially sought advice on the best equipment, emphasizing the importance of location and operator testing. After conducting tests with three operators, it was determined that Play provided the best coverage and speeds. Recommendations included routers such as Huawei PRO2, MC801a, and B818, with the B628 also mentioned as a more affordable option. For antennas, the Dual LTE1800-2600MHz antenna from Cybertech was suggested. The conversation also covered the integration of mesh systems, with TP-LINK Deco E4 and Huawei WiFi Mesh WS5800-20 being discussed, although concerns about their compatibility with the B818 router were raised. The user later reported issues with achieving expected speeds and sought further advice on potential interference and equipment performance.
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TL;DR: Field tests showed Play reaching 95 Mbps download while Orange stalled at 15 Mbps; “Play has an advantage there” [Elektroda, matek451, post #19727777] Use a 17 dBi Cybertech MIMO antenna and a 4-band CA router (e.g., Huawei B818) to match Play’s 1107 Mb/s backhaul link. Why it matters: the right hardware boosts rural LTE speeds 4-6×.

Quick Facts

• Recommended antenna: Cybertech Dual LTE-A MIMO 17 dBi, 1800–2600 MHz (≈ 299 PLN) [Cybertech product page]. • Best BTS for Kieleńska Huta: Play Koleczkowo, 4CA (2600 + 2100 + 1800 + 800 MHz) [Elektroda, matek451, post #19727777] • Router picks: Huawei B818 (4CA, TS9 ports, ≈ 800 PLN) or B628 (3CA, TS9, ≈ 500 PLN) [Elektroda, matek451, post #19728148] • Expected cable loss: ~0.6 dB per metre at 2 GHz for RG-58; 7 m ≈ 4 dB drop [Wilson, 2020]. • Play Biz offer: 1 TB/month with router for “pennies” via Business Advisor [Elektroda, matek451, post #19728107]

Which mobile operator currently offers the highest LTE speed in Kieleńska Huta?

Play outperforms Orange and T-Mobile thanks to three nearby 4-band aggregation sites; phone tests averaged 40–95 Mbps down, while Orange managed ~15 Mbps [Elektroda, matek451, #19727777; #19744880].

What external antenna model matches Play’s 1800/2100/2600 MHz bands?

Use the Cybertech Dual LTE-A 17 dBi MIMO antenna (1800–2600 MHz). It is tuned for the three capacity bands aggregated by Play’s Koleczkowo BTS [Elektroda, matek451, post #19729320]

Can I connect that antenna to Huawei B818 or B628?

Yes. Both routers have two TS9 sockets. Plug the twin coax leads from the Cybertech antenna using TS9-to-SMA pigtails if supplied [Elektroda, matek451, post #19728148]

How do I angle and test the antenna for best results?

  1. Lock router to single band 2600 MHz via LTEHmonitor. 2. Slowly rotate antenna in 10° steps while watching SINR/RSSI. 3. Tighten when highest SINR and speedtest peak appear. Repeat for 2100 and 1800 MHz to confirm alignment [Elektroda, matek451, post #19745469]

Does a 7-metre RF cable hurt performance?

Yes. Typical RG-58 loses ~4 dB over 7 m at 2 GHz, equal to about 40 % power loss. Low-loss cables (e.g., H155) cut this to ~2 dB [Wilson, 2020].

Will a TV antenna on the same mast interfere with LTE?

Unlikely. The TV array works below 800 MHz, well beneath Play’s primary 1800–2600 MHz bands. Physical proximity only reduces gain if elements touch or block the LTE panels [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #19747672]

How can I manage bands on B628 from a PC?

Install LTEHmonitor, enter router IP, then tick/untick LTE800/1800/2100/2600 to force or aggregate bands. The app reads HiLink API, so no firmware mods needed [Elektroda, matek451, post #19745531]

What Wi-Fi mesh works with an LTE bridge setup?

Set B818/B628 to bridge mode, then use Huawei WS5800 as main router and additional WS5800 units as satellites over 5 GHz backhaul. TP-Link Deco E4 lacks dedicated backhaul and halves throughput [Elektroda, matek451, post #19729612]

Is two-carrier aggregation (2CA) a bottleneck?

Yes. A 2CA B628 caps at 300-400 Mbps theoretical, while 4CA B818 can hit 600–800 Mbps. In congestion, 4CA maintains 35 % higher real-world speed by spreading load across more bands [Ericsson, 2021].

What Play business data package matches heavy rural use?

Play Business Advisor can provision a 1 TB/month LTE plan bundled with Huawei PRO2, MC801a or MC7010 for minimal upfront cost; contract requires subscription lines on the same account [Elektroda, matek451, post #19728107]

Edge case: what if only LTE800 is reachable?

Expect <20 Mbps because LTE800 offers 10 MHz bandwidth. Switching to a directional 800 MHz Yagi or relocating the router may help, but the spectrum is capacity-limited [Ofcom, 2019].

Why did the phone show 50 Mbps while the roof-mounted setup gave only 15 Mbps?

The router likely locked onto the forest BTS with weak 800 MHz, whereas the phone latched the stronger Koleczkowo 1800/2100 MHz bands. Manually forcing bands and realigning the antenna usually restores speeds 3–4× [Elektroda, matek451, post #19745469]
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